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Guitar Dad
Citizen Username: Guitardad
Post Number: 24 Registered: 3-2006

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 10:00 am: |
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Three kids. So, so sad. NY Times - August 8, 2006 Jersey Police Officer Is Fatally Shot By JENNIFER 8. LEE ORANGE, N.J., Aug. 8 — A city police detective was fatally shot late last night, apparently while chasing a shooting suspect on a residential street. Shortly afterwards, about 40 police officers surrounded a house on Taylor Street here in the belief that the person who shot the detective, Kieran T. Shields, may have been inside. Just before 6 a.m., a police SWAT team raided the house, after first sending in robotic scouts and tossing in two stun grenades whose blast and flash shook the neighborhood. But apparently no suspect was found inside, because the police officers departed about an hour later with no one in their custody. The only signs of the standoff were the two police helicopters that remained whirring high overhead, as they had all night. Police officials declined comment. The acting director of the Orange police, Aric Webster, said that Detective Shields was shot at about 11:30 p.m. while attempting to arrest a suspect after responding to reports of gunfire, The Associated Press reported. James Rainforth, a retired Orange police officer who was a few blocks away at the time of the shooting, said that Mr. Shields had told colleagues by radio shortly before he was shot that he was in pursuit of a suspect on foot. Detective Shields was taken to University Medical Center in Newark, where he was pronounced dead about midnight, police officials said. It was not clear whether the suspect was believed to live in the home that the police surrounded. Neighbors said that it was occupied by a “nice’’ family with a small child. Families in adjacent homes were evacuated for much of the night. One family, who told the police they had nowhere else to go, waited out the six-hour siege on the sidewalk with their youngest child in a stroller, drinking bottles of apple juice. Detective Shields 32, was a five-year veteran of the force and the father of three, including an 8-week-old baby. His father, Columbus Shields, also served on the Orange police, and retired in 2002 after he was injured in the line of duty, according to former colleagues. Detective Shields had been commended for rescuing a child in a highly publicized 2004 carjacking case. Mr. Shields told The Star-Ledger at the time that when he found the 5-year-old in a stolen S.U.V., “she seemed relieved, and then started to cry.’’ Mr. Shields is the fourth police officer to be shot in Orange since 1999. Officer Joyce Carnegie was fatally shot on April 8, 1999 during an armed robbery. In January 2001, two officers, Kenneth McGuire and David Lemongello, were shot multiple times in a robbery, but survived.
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Nancy - LibraryLady
Supporter Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 3776 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 10:16 am: |
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It is very sad, but why post this in"South Orange"?? Not the logical place for it unless you don't differentiate between the Oranges. |
   
Guitar Dad
Citizen Username: Guitardad
Post Number: 25 Registered: 3-2006

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 10:40 am: |
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Hmmm. I posted it here because there were choppers flying over my house last night (near Grove Park), and I was sure others had heard the noise. I also posted it here because this type of senseless violence affects us all -- the police officer was young had three young kids, and the violence was close enough to home to see the police overhead. |
   
Nancy - LibraryLady
Supporter Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 3777 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 11:00 am: |
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Don't mean to be obnoxious but the choppers were probably visable and audiable over Maplewood as well. Virtual Cafe would of reached us all. |
   
Guitar Dad
Citizen Username: Guitardad
Post Number: 26 Registered: 3-2006

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 11:04 am: |
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Okay Nancy. I'd be happy to have it moved to another section -- only I don't know how to do that. Anyone? |
   
bets
Supporter Username: Bets
Post Number: 23783 Registered: 6-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 11:09 am: |
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I have no problem with this being here. South Orange does suffer a lot more overspill of crime in Orange than does Maplewood. VC isn't the place for it, in any event. |
   
Pizzaz
Supporter Username: Pizzaz
Post Number: 4156 Registered: 11-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 11:41 am: |
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In any case, it is a very sad event to report. I saw the news clip this morning on TV.... |
   
Glock 17
Citizen Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1703 Registered: 7-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 12:07 pm: |
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DOn't say "choppers" Say "Police Helicopters" or "ghetto birds" Because choppers also means handguns. |
   
Guitar Dad
Citizen Username: Guitardad
Post Number: 28 Registered: 3-2006

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 12:13 pm: |
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Well, that's a new one on me -- didn't know that, Glock. I'll keep it in mind. |
   
thincer
Citizen Username: Thincer
Post Number: 28 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 12:18 pm: |
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I wanted to know why the helicopters were overhead and came right to South Orange postings to find out. exactly the right place to post it in my opinion. |
   
Flying_char
Citizen Username: Flying_char
Post Number: 178 Registered: 8-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 12:28 pm: |
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Perfect place to put it! |
   
Guitar Dad
Citizen Username: Guitardad
Post Number: 29 Registered: 3-2006

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 12:39 pm: |
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Well, alright then. The story seems to have made front-page news in the metro area. Of course it is in Orange officially, but I put it here because, as I said, it affected S.O. residents. |
   
Monster©
Supporter Username: Monster
Post Number: 4394 Registered: 7-2002

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 12:44 pm: |
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I thought he was referring to people on motorcycles. |
   
Glock 17
Citizen Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1705 Registered: 7-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 12:48 pm: |
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Like Ghostrider? |
   
Just The Aunt
Supporter Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5832 Registered: 1-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 12:50 pm: |
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I don't have a problem with this being posted in this topic because Taylor is not that far from the South Orange border. There was a very low flying helicopter in the Montrose Area. It sounded to me as if it was looking for a place to land. I almost called the police; but then I heard a second helicopter. I heard them later then Midnight though because they woke us up again. I was going to post about it on MOL; but after the last time, decided not to. The first thing I did when I got up at 5:30am this morning was check MOL for information. When there was none I checked the Ledger online; where there were two stories. I hope the police catch the scum who did this. There is something in the article that doesn't make a lot of sense. It says one of the evacuated families having no place to go, spent the six hours waiting on the sidewalk. I know the police had other things on their minds, but I can't imagine them not moving this family somewhere. I would think if the police wanted people out of the area they would find somewhere for the family to go. Even if it was hanging out at headquarters. I'm hoping the reporter made a mistake.
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Guitar Dad
Citizen Username: Guitardad
Post Number: 30 Registered: 3-2006

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 1:01 pm: |
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They got him. "Authorities on Tuesday captured a 19-year-old gang member accused in the shotgun slaying of a city police officer. Paul Loriquet, a spokesman for the Essex County prosecutor's office, said police arrested the suspect shortly after 12:30 p.m. No officers were injured while making the arrest, Loriquet said." |
   
K_soze
Citizen Username: K_soze
Post Number: 644 Registered: 11-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 1:59 pm: |
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Nancy, why would you not want this info here? Do you want the residents (or readers of MOL) kept in the dark about what goes on around us. There's nothing stopping this type of crime from occuring a couple blocks south. It sad when I read these pages and see things like police jobs aren't dangerous or there's no real gangs in our area How phucking ignorant. RIP Kieran Shields. Hope that piece of dies a 1000 deaths |
   
mjh
Supporter Username: Mjh
Post Number: 733 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 2:41 pm: |
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K_soze: Nancy simply suggested that another area of MOL might be seen by more viewers, rather than only by those who read MOL for South Orange news. It was not meant to be a big deal, a criticism, or a statement about the relative worth or risk of being a police officer. You could go back and read what she said in order to determine that you are making a big deal out of a minor, offhand comment which was supportive of this thread getting as much attention as possible.
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mjh
Supporter Username: Mjh
Post Number: 735 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 2:44 pm: |
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K_soze: Nancy simply suggested that another area of MOL might be seen by more viewers, rather than only by those who read MOL for South Orange news. It was not meant to be a big deal, a criticism, or a statement about the relative worth or risk of being a police officer. You could go back and read what she actually said and see that you are making a big deal out of a minor, offhand comment. Her comment was supportive of this thread getting as much attention as possible, and in no way disrespectful of a murdered police officer. Take a chill pill.}
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Nancy - LibraryLady
Supporter Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 3778 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 2:51 pm: |
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THanks MJH, you are exactly right. I don't read the Maplewood thread most times cause I live in S.O. This kind of news should be read by everybody. Sorry if my post didn't come across that way. |
   
Dave
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 10368 Registered: 4-1997

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 2:54 pm: |
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You were just looking for the right shelf to put it on. |
   
Nancy - LibraryLady
Supporter Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 3780 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 2:57 pm: |
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364.1523 |
   
Pdg
Citizen Username: Pdg
Post Number: 1167 Registered: 5-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 6:00 pm: |
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Nice language K_soze - clearly you are THE model of intellect. |
   
Flying_char
Citizen Username: Flying_char
Post Number: 180 Registered: 8-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 9:50 pm: |
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Now see what I always say about gang members? I feel people laugh at me, just because I happend to know a thing or two about gangs ( and the members :-))
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Dave
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 10383 Registered: 4-1997

| Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 11:22 am: |
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What does that mean? |
   
Guitar Dad
Citizen Username: Guitardad
Post Number: 31 Registered: 3-2006

| Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 11:25 am: |
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Dave, What just happened to the post that was entered this morning -- a picture of the officer that someone posted? Was it removed? |
   
Dave
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 10384 Registered: 4-1997

| Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 11:30 am: |
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I didn't remove anything. |
   
Guitar Dad
Citizen Username: Guitardad
Post Number: 32 Registered: 3-2006

| Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 11:34 am: |
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Oh. Sorry. Well, someone -- I can't remember who -- posted a picture of the officer this morning in this thread and admonished certain posters for their lighthearted banter, and their failure (poster stated) to acknowledge the seriousness of the tragedy. Now the post is gone from the thread. |
   
buzzsaw
Citizen Username: Buzzsaw
Post Number: 5554 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 1:16 pm: |
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I posted it and took it down
If I didn't know better, it would seem to me that people were more concerned about classification, language and wit - than they were about a father/husband/officer being murdered.
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bets
Supporter Username: Bets
Post Number: 23803 Registered: 6-2001

| Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 2:49 pm: |
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You're right, Mr. Buzzsaw. Thank you for the reality check. My deepest sympathies to his family, friends, and the city of Orange. |
   
Lucy
Supporter Username: Lucy
Post Number: 5128 Registered: 5-2005

| Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 3:32 pm: |
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Amen |
   
Fitzhume
Citizen Username: Fitzhume
Post Number: 12 Registered: 8-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 9:02 pm: |
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Although the incident happened in Orange, I know that South Orange officers responded immediately to assist and stayed throughout the night. |
   
tototoo
Citizen Username: Tototoo
Post Number: 184 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 9:19 pm: |
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Another TRADGEDY. My heart and prayers go out to the family, friends and co-workers of Detective Shields. That being said, I agree with K_soze's post 100% Punk murderer; get what's coming to you! |