| Author | Message | ||
     Montrose13 Citizen Username: Montrose13 Post Number: 43 Registered: 8-2004 |
If underage kids are served alcohol by an adult in their home what is the adults liability if the kid gets into an accident later? Or if underage kids are drinking and the adults are not at home and have no knowledge of alcohol consumption is the liability the same if something happens later? | ||
| Jersey_Boy Citizen Username: Jersey_boy Post Number: 1681 Registered: 1-2006  |
Party at Montrose13's house!!! | ||
| Dave Supporter Username: Dave  Post Number: 10560 Registered: 4-1997  |
Just don't let Jersey Boy near the mixer. | ||
| John Caffrey Citizen Username: Jerseyjack Post Number: 517 Registered: 11-2005 |
Do you remember "The Gong Show?" In answer to your question, you get "gonged" if kids get served at your house. Either you knew, or should have known, or should not have left kids unsupervised. If an adult serves the kids, its clearly an opening for more charges being filed. What is the address and time of the party? For a more specific answer, post your question on New Jersey Law Network. | ||
| Montrose13 Citizen Username: Montrose13 Post Number: 44 Registered: 8-2004 |
Thank you John for an adult answer to an adult question. | ||
| Mayor McCheese Supporter Username: Mayor_mccheese Post Number: 2147 Registered: 7-2004  |
http://health.rutgers.edu/unused/RSHS/alclaws.htm B. Purchase of Alcohol by/for the Underaged (N.J.S.A. 33:1-81) An underage person who purchases or attempts to purchase alcohol, or lies about their age, or a person of legal age who purchases alcohol for an underaged person faces a conviction of a disorderly persons offense, which incurs a fine of not less than $500 and loss of license of r6 months to one ear. In addition, underage persons may be required to participate in a state-sponsored alcohol education program. C. Serving an Alcoholic beverage to a Minor (N.J.S.A. 2C:33-17) Anyone who purposefully or knowingly offers or serves or makes available an alcoholic beverages to a person under the legal age for consuming alcoholic beverages or entices that person to drink alcohol or makes real property owned, leased or managed by him available for the consumption of alcohol by underaged persons is committing a disorderly person offense and is subject to a fine of up to $1000 if convicted. 5. Host/Hostess Liability (N.J.S.A 2A:15-15.6) A host or hostess who provides alcoholic beverages to a visibly intoxicated guest can be held liable for injuries inflicted on a third party if that guest is involved in a motor vehicle accident. | ||
| Debra Davidson Citizen Username: Peanutslady Post Number: 173 Registered: 5-2005  |
Mayor McCheese Said it beautifully. Please if you do not want to get into trouble I would not get or serve alcohol to miners ever. | ||
| Illuminated Radish Citizen Username: Umoja Post Number: 64 Registered: 6-2006 |
But if my parents left town, and I had a party, would they be held responsible? And chillax, that's not what's gonna happen. | ||
| Jersey_Boy Citizen Username: Jersey_boy Post Number: 1686 Registered: 1-2006 |
You think that "Gong Show" answer is an adult answer. Sheesh. J.B. | ||
| Mayor McCheese Supporter Username: Mayor_mccheese Post Number: 2157 Registered: 7-2004 |
Debra, my statement was only a quote of some NJ laws. It is illegal to serve minors, and I wouldn't take the chance. But I do think that the laws are silly, and wish that they would be removed from the books. The choice is not really up to us anymore, or even the state. The federal government will not give highway funds to any state that has a drinking age under 21. So, if NJ wanted to change the laws, we would all end up paying a lot more in taxes. The federal government is a mess and a shame. As for a party when parents are out of town, I don't know. I suspect that if you were over 18 that you may be responsible. I don't know what the laws are like for someone who is under 18 being left at home with no supervision. What is chillax? | ||
| SOrising Citizen Username: Sorising Post Number: 690 Registered: 2-2006 |
Chill out + relax = chillax. Cute. | ||
| Mayor McCheese Supporter Username: Mayor_mccheese Post Number: 2165 Registered: 7-2004 |
Oh, I thought it might be a cold weapon. | ||
| John Caffrey Citizen Username: Jerseyjack Post Number: 520 Registered: 11-2005 |
Radish, at the very least, your parents would be REQUIRED to hire a lawyer to defend you. Furthermore, since you are a minor, they could have legal consequences for not properly supervising you. Also, there is a possibility of heavy loss to them if an injury resulted and they were successfully sued. Jersy Boy, the gong show answer was as adult as the decision to post the question here. Ya want an adult answer, be an adult and pay the f*^%@n money to a lawyer. The form of my answer was snarky and sophmoric and immature. So what, that's the way I am. I am also the funniest guy I know and I will continue to amuse myself by being sophmoric, immature and probably snarky. Still, the meat of my gong show answer contained solid information and didn't cost him a dime. | ||
| SOrising Citizen Username: Sorising Post Number: 697 Registered: 2-2006 |
JC, I've learned that you can't always tell when JB is being ironic or serious. A draw back of virtual communication. | ||
| John Caffrey Citizen Username: Jerseyjack Post Number: 523 Registered: 11-2005 |
SO, In other words, I just got "gonged?" | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 1793 Registered: 7-2005  |
Did someone just say chillax? Worst non-word ever. Stop butchering fun, teenage slang! | ||
| bets Supporter Username: Bets Post Number: 23899 Registered: 6-2001  |
Whoa. Loss of an ear seems rather drastic, mayor!
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| Shanabana Citizen Username: Shanabana Post Number: 974 Registered: 10-2005  |
My parents are SOOOOO lucky they had me as a teenager before everyone got so aware of the law. | ||
| Jersey_Boy Citizen Username: Jersey_boy Post Number: 1691 Registered: 1-2006 |
John Caffrey, I assumed the "adult answer to an adult question" was aimed at my childish post, "Party at Montrose13's." I was just busting Montrose13, that your gong show response was considered "more adult." SOrising, We always seem to miss each other in the sarcasm category. I'll be more careful and use more emoticons  . J.B. | ||
| John Caffrey Citizen Username: Jerseyjack Post Number: 525 Registered: 11-2005 |
JB, Otay. The best part of it was that I was discussing the posts with Scully at the Parkwood yesterday afternoon. I was referring to Montrose's reference to my gong post as adult and not being sure if he was sincere or snarky. I told her that I missed an opportunity to respond that, "if you wanted an adult answer..." and regreted that I hadn't. Then you gave me the perfect opportunity to resurect the argument. Damn Good! Thanks! | ||
| Flying_char Citizen Username: Flying_char Post Number: 240 Registered: 8-2005  |
ok, I now know the law and I will choose to disobey. I think it is absolutely ridiculous that kids have such an abnormal relationship with alcohol. I rather see my kids get drunk at my home for the first time, than in some dorm room, where only God knows, what can happen to them. At home ( DK) the drinking age is 18. and we learn early on how to "deal" with alcohol. The first time I got drunk, was at my friend's house ( parents were home) and it was the new years eve, when I was in 9. grade. Not unusual where I come from. That basically means, we party and have fun in highschool ( yes they serve beer at our highschool parties) I had plenty of "before party" parties at my house before my dad would load us all up in his truck and drop us off at the highschool.... And when you hit college, you are ready to take your studies seriously. Now slaughter me! | ||
| Mayor McCheese Supporter Username: Mayor_mccheese Post Number: 2170 Registered: 7-2004 |
I agree with you. | ||
| Montrose13 Citizen Username: Montrose13 Post Number: 45 Registered: 8-2004 |
For all of you adult comedians here I apologize for asking a perfectly forthright question in an adult manner and actually expecting forthright and adult answers. How silly of me really. | ||
| John Caffrey Citizen Username: Jerseyjack Post Number: 527 Registered: 11-2005 |
Montrose, review the posts on this website. Almost everyone who posts on this website gets at least one silly response to their question. Sometimes they get only serious answers and sometimes they get serious information mixed with silliness (such as my post to you was). Let me apologize to you and offer to buy you a coffee, cocacola, ice cream, beer or whaever --depending on your age and taste buds. PL me if offer accepted. Shana, Your post reminds me of when I was teaching at New Providence High School during the time when the drinking age was lowered to 18. Two of my senior students were killed during that time period in two separate incidents. One lost his life on Christmas Eve. What a waste. | ||
| Jersey_Boy Citizen Username: Jersey_boy Post Number: 1695 Registered: 1-2006 |
"How silly of me really." Montrose, I think what went wrong here was you weren't being silly enough. Or I was being too silly. Either way, I didn't mean to offend.  (Perhaps not the best emoticon for the topic, but I think it fits.) J.B. |
