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newtoallthis
Citizen
Username: Newtoallthis
Post Number: 168
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 - 5:38 pm: | 
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http://www.southorange.org/Map/LeafPickup.html |
SoOrLady
Citizen
Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 1537
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 - 6:00 pm: |
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I see my street is completed... so what do we do with the leaves our landscaper put in the street? |
vermontgolfer
Citizen
Username: Vermontgolfer
Post Number: 285
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 - 6:42 pm: |
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Well, I'm with SoOrLady, since the leaves on my street have been there for well over 1 1/2 weeks already. I think we only had two pickups all season. |
Dave
Moderator
Username: Dave
Post Number: 4572
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 - 6:45 pm: |
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Nice use of the web site, though. |
SOLIFER
Citizen
Username: Solifer
Post Number: 6
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 - 7:29 pm: |
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Isn't it true that SHU doesn't pay any PRoperty taxes and yet teh town still picks up there leaves....I wish I could get the services without paying taxes too.....Where do I sign up |
D. Richards
Citizen
Username: Baddriving11
Post Number: 134
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 - 7:40 pm: |
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I have one major beef with those residents who use pick up by the town...How come several other towns can limit how far you rack your leaves into the street but South Orange allows residents and thier landscapers the entire lane of travel.
Its bad enough that people drive like maniacs around this area but do the streets need to be narrowed to half a lane both ways. |
SOLIFER
Citizen
Username: Solifer
Post Number: 9
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 - 7:57 pm: |
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The DPW is the worst when it comes to the leaves....They Just randomly close teh street down...they dont wear vests or direct traffic like other towns i see. |
arizona
Citizen
Username: Arizona
Post Number: 127
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 - 8:55 pm: |
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The leaf problem is particularly bad after recent storms. Sunday evening in the Upper Wyoming area many streets were unsafe due to piles of leaves displaced into the center of the street. Year after year the DPW inadequately clears leaves in any kind of timely manner. Snow really complicates things. They need to provide more manpower and clear leaves more often and more thoroughly. I know that money is partially behind this problem but, nonetheless, the delay creates dangerous situations for drivers and pedestrians. |
CageyD
Citizen
Username: Cageyd
Post Number: 187
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 - 9:23 pm: |
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They should end this ridiculous and time consuming practice and have residents or their landscapers use bags. Once leaves are bagged they don't blow away create a driving hazard. Really this practice is dangerous and very costly. |
just me fromsouthorange
Citizen
Username: Jmfromsorange
Post Number: 980
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 - 9:42 pm: |
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i think i read somewhere recently that after this year leaves have to be bagged. funny we planned to call the town this afternoon about the leaves, thenall of a sudden we heard the truck outside plowing them... |
woodstock
Citizen
Username: Woodstock
Post Number: 831
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 1, 2004 - 11:51 pm: |
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Solifer, I believe (I don't remember where I read it, maybe the Gaslight?) that the leaves are supposed to be within four feet of the curb. |
Matt Foley
Citizen
Username: Mattfoley
Post Number: 43
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 1:07 am: |
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I think the public works guys are doing a fine job. I've seen them on my street on Saturdays.
In regards to the article in the Star Ledger last Wednesday, fall leaf bagging will cost all of us dearly. Think about it; If you employ a service they will charge extra for removal,if you do your own landscaping it will consume more of your time. I try to make an annual last run on my lawn just before they cut off p/up every year. This helps to prevent that annoying early spring bagging.
Those DPW guys make all of our lives easier. I for one appreciate all that they do for this town (parks,streets,trees). Maybe you should thank one next time they are in your neighborhood.
Hey, Parrot Head...Thank You!
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Mayor McCheese
Citizen
Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 51
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 1:49 am: |
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I actually find myself agreeing with Mr Foley. The people down at DPW do the best job they can. They are understaffed. This becomes very evident during the leaf pickup. Maybe the town should spend our money to hire new workers, instead of taking trips and trying to get themselves paid. I think the roads could be better, and so I say that we stop complaining about workers who do their best to finish a never ending workload, and instead try to fix the problem by hiring eough workers to do the work a little faster. |
just me fromsouthorange
Citizen
Username: Jmfromsorange
Post Number: 989
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 2:06 am: |
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matt and cheese
we weren't going to call to complain. we wanted to make sure when the last oick up was cuz our landscapper was here. we wanted to know if we should have him come back once last time before the winter. since this was the last leaf pick up til next year, we told him he didn't need to come back.
while i agree, it's going to cost everyone more to back the leaves, it might turn out to be better in the long run. |
StringsTeacher99
Citizen
Username: Blue_eyes
Post Number: 203
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 7:39 am: |
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I posted this in another thread and I think it's worth posting again:
I know for a fact that most of the DPW employees responsible for clearing leaves are part time employees who are working their butts off with out benefits, paid holidays, or sick days.
"Part timers" are still working full-time work weeks, but are just days shy of working the 6 months required to be considered full-time. This is my understanding of the situation. Maybe the DPW truly is understaffed as some have been saying. |
skay
Citizen
Username: Skay
Post Number: 5
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 8:06 am: |
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I haven't heard an answer to the question:
"I see my street is completed... so what do we do with the leaves our landscaper put in the street?"
I thought Dec 3rd was the last day? |
D. Richards
Citizen
Username: Baddriving11
Post Number: 135
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 8:11 am: |
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I think they need to forward this schedule earlier in the year...so residents who fail to put thier leaves out will need to either remove them themselves or be required to do it by a certain date.
Also, the new law says towns cannot allow them to sit for more then seven days on the street after they will be required to be removed.
REMEMBER LAST YEAR WHEN IT SNOWED IN NOVEMBER...I DROVE THROUGH A SMALL PILE OF SNOW THINKING IT WAS SOFT...I HIT FROZEN LEAVES AND DAMAGED MY VEHICLE...WHICH WAS IN THE REGULAR DRIVING LANE. |
StringsTeacher99
Citizen
Username: Blue_eyes
Post Number: 204
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 10:07 am: |
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D.Richards... your username doesn't help your case.  |
Amie Brockway-Metcalf
Citizen
Username: Amie
Post Number: 111
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 10:12 am: |
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I just called (since we just raked last week)--they say they'll be picking up for another month. |
arizona
Citizen
Username: Arizona
Post Number: 128
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 10:50 am: |
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I agree that the DPW workers themselves deserve no criticism. This is a management issue. The dept is understaffed at this time of the year. Once again, where are our elected officials??????? |
pan
Citizen
Username: Pan
Post Number: 82
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 11:28 am: |
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Arizona, our elected officials are busy with things more fun than your leaves collection. They are busy mismanaging the downtown redevelopment, finding money to finance SOPAC at our expense, and preparing the groundwork for paying themselves.
The DWP is indeed understaffed, and the workers work with antiquated equipment, in substandard facilities. Yes this is a management issue but we can't afford to hire more personnel because we just gave hefty salary increases to the administrator/CFO/treasurer. |
doublea
Citizen
Username: Doublea
Post Number: 806
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 11:47 am: |
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Leaf pick-up is a massive job. All towns have a problem with it. South Orange is beautiful because of all the mature trees we have.
Picking-up leaves is really time consuming. It doesn't take too many loads from the front-end loader to fill a truck, and then that truck has to go the yard to empty and then return.
Sometimes it's necessary to block a street while the front-end loader is maneuvering. It really is the only way to get the job done.
I'm with Matt and the Mayor on this one- the DPW does a great job with what they have. Thank you. |
notehead
Citizen
Username: Notehead
Post Number: 1745
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 2:13 pm: |
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I have to agree with D.Richards about the size of the piles of leaves on some streets. I often drive on the streets connecting Ridgewood to Wyoming, and between the landscapers' giant trailers, and the massive piles of leaves that literally fill an entire lane, it becomes risky to drive on those roads -- especially if they are damp and it is dark. |
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