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Soda
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Post Number: 1968
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's what the S-L wrote:

http://www.nj.com/search/index.ssf?/base/news-6/1100411638274750.xml?starledger? nex

Here's what Mark Rosner wrote:

http://www.nj.com/weblogs/rosner/

What do YOU think of moviemaking in S.O.?
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woodstock
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Post Number: 818
Registered: 9-2002


Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe there needs to be an inconvenience fee for the neighbors whose lives are being disrupted for no current benefit.

Also, where in South Orange can you buy lumber?


quote:

The 50 cast and crew members of "Strangers with Candy" ordered food from local restaurants and bought lumber from South Orange stores, said Patierno.


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Matt Foley
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Quick someone send Bob an application for the local N.I.M.B.Y. chapter.
Get off of yourself and accept the fact that your neighbors are nice people who have the good fortune of being selected for various movie and commercial sets.
In the future I will be sure to cut my engine and coast past your property. #$%^&*!!
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bobk
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Post Number: 6693
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 1:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We live in Maplewood, but the situation is the same. A TV show was filmed across the street from our house a few years ago. The street was blocked off by Maplewood police officers who wouldn't allow entrance or exit from our homes. The set up started around 9:00am and the crew didn't leave until after 10:00 pm. Another neighbor had to suspend roofing work because of the noise created. All of this was done without notice. To be honest I found this somewhat amusing and not a bad way to spend an early summer evening. However, if this had gone on for ten days..............

I believe Maplewood's experience with filming "ONe True Thing" sorta turned them off the whole process. Also, wasn't the Nicklelodeon show "Pete and Pete filmed in SO about ten to fifteen years ago?
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SoOrLady
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Post Number: 1496
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 1:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Movies are fun for everyone except the immediate neighbors. I'm not sure if the Adler's opinion would be swayed by an "inconvenience fee". It seems that their neighbor either has an in with the industry of a highly photographic home. "One True Thing" turned Maplewood upsidedown - it was great fun for us extras, but the town revised their ordinance because of it... Duncan? Are you there.. please elaborate for me...
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argon_smythe
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Post Number: 419
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 1:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think the guy has a legitimate complaint. No idea what to do about it, but as someone who telecommutes occasionally I can empathize.

Regarding the specific scene, I wonder: Why can't they just dub in a horn beeping? Why do they have to keep beeping the horn for each take of the stupid scene? That's what I want to know.


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Wilkanoid
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Post Number: 265
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 1:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I found it extremely annoying when a film crew came to our street this year. They took over the street as though it were their own - making cars stop when the scene was being filmed, parking their enormous trailer in front of my house right at my driveway so that I couldn't back safely, and making me doubt the general safety of the kids walking home from school on the street with so many stangers milling around.

I am not normally a paranoid or suspicious person, and generally I'm very tolerant and go with the flow. I applaud that people are being paid for the use of their homes. I don't think I would turn down the use of mine. What I do mind is the proprietary air that some crews assume when they take over the street. Those who have lived through a film shoot on their street know that they do literally take over. This crew just appeared out of nowhere, with no prior notice to the people who would be directly affected by their presence.

A little respect for the people who also live on the street would be nice.
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woodstock
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Post Number: 820
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Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 1:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

maybe we should include an acceptable amount of neighbor notification in any change to the ordinance.
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mrosner
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Post Number: 1575
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 1:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just for the record, Mr. Adler was not the only one who has made or had complaints about that production or other ones. He was the only one who agreed to be quoted in the article.

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redY67
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Post Number: 507
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Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 2:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would never begrudge a neighbor making a buck; but it would be nice to get ample notice. I do sympathize with the Adler's. I am sure some money would sway them in a happier direction.
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mrosner
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Post Number: 1576
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Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 2:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't think money is/was the issue. It is a question of lifestyle. I am sure most of us would be ok with one day of filming. When filming drags on for days or into the night (as it did with the one by the Adler's) it becomes more than an inconvenience and I doubt the compensation would be enough.
At least one homeowner has had three films/commercials done at her house in the past 12 months. Even though the total number of days was within what our ordinance allows, it was never expected that someone would rent out their home multiple times.

We need to tighten up the ordinance (number of films per year, total number of days and some other issues).
So far, other than a homeowner getting a big check, I don't see the benefit to the village or the neighborhood.
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redY67
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Post Number: 508
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Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 2:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mrosner: I would imagine if the Adler's had proper notification, and compensation, they would not be as upset. Absolutely your quality of life is hurt. But if someone says, we know we are affecting you, therefore we will compensate you I think it would be less frustrated.
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dgm
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Post Number: 191
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Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 2:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would prefer not to have to deal with arrogant production assistants who tell you where you should or should not go or how you conduct yourself on your own property. That industry is entirely to impressed by itself.
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bobk
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Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 3:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A neighbor who is in the commercial and video business indicated that Maplewood and South Orange are potentially popular because we are close enough to Manhattan so that the production company doesn't have to pay travel time to the technicians. I don't know, but it sounds good to me.

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mrosner
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Post Number: 1577
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Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 4:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The article focused on just one person's complaint. There were several others who were not happy at that and other film sites. There were several different reasons given.
My feeling is we should raise the fees so that at least the village would get some income. It was also suggested that each film crew be required to hire someone (an off-duty police officer) to act as the compliance person. This way a resident will not have to deal with anyone from the film crew if there is a problem.
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Josh M.
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Post Number: 180
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 6:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with the compliance person-- and even a raise in the fee. Also-- perhaps-- part of the ordinance could demand compensation for neighbors within 300 feet on the same street at, say, 5%-10% of the contract price for use of the main property.

I do not think we should limit the amount of films-- a major production in town could be worth money to the Village. Plus, as per an article in Today's New York Times, film crews generally pay for any inconvienence.

It is good publicity for the town to have fims and television shot here. Can we demand the wealth be spread a little more? Sure. Should we limit the amount of films here? I don't think so.
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alison mccoll
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Post Number: 61
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 7:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I managed shoots in advertising, I was AMAZED by the fees paid to the property owners. Then again, they had to deal with actors eating out of their refrigerators, bulimic models forgetting to put the seat down, and hung over photographers passing out on their couch. In NY, some people actually buy loft apartments with the intention of renting them out regularly for shoots and parties. It's a big business. Once you get "in" with a location scout, and if your place has a desirable "look" you can make a lot of money this way.

I doubt that is what is going on in good old S.O., but I found this post very interesting. I feel sorry for the neighbors who deal with this sort of thing, seeing first hand how badly people abuse these places. I'd recomend any envious neighbors Google "location scouts," take some digital pics, and get their OWN homes on the list. There's still time to make some extra holiday cash...
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CageyD
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Post Number: 176
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If SO is so desirable because of its proximity to NYC and the lovely stock of homes and old growth trees etc. why don't we push to turn one of the vacant lots in town into a type of production studio for film and TV. Then the film companies could benefit from having facilities nearby their locations, the town could benefit from a new business and there could be some cross over between the production studio and Seton Hall/Columbia HS student interested in film and theater.
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SoOrLady
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Post Number: 1500
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What a great idea Cagey!!
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D. Richards
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Post Number: 117
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HOW MUCH WILL THE VILLAGE HAVE TO INVEST TO GET THIS OFF THE GROUND?


How about the new and improved Beifus studios...Or the ShopRite Sound stage????

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