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Phenixrising
Citizen
Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 243
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 12:19 pm: | 
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Hmmm,
I thought we were "South Orange Village" or "The Village of South Orange."
Oh well… whateva 
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Josh M.
Citizen
Username: Jmaxlaw
Post Number: 190
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 12:46 pm: |
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I've stayed out of this topic mostly because I thought it was a "fringe" topic here on the board. Frankly, I'm shocked to see this line of discussion still has so much traction.
You change your name when there are very serious image problems. For example-- Phillip Morris no longer exists-- it is now Altria (I think).
South Orange, while no one who is sane will tell you that there are no issues, certainly is not in dire need of a PR makeover. Just because things could be better does not mean you dump hundreds of years of history. |
pan
Citizen
Username: Pan
Post Number: 83
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 12:52 pm: |
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If we want a name change, let's honor the first settlers of this land, and name ourselves
"THE LENAPE VILLAGE".
We owe this to those whose land we usurped. |
John Ace
Citizen
Username: Johnnyace
Post Number: 12
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 12:53 pm: |
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I fear changing the name would detract from the focus on the real issues of our town: Like if we somehow changed the name of the town, everything would be better. I don't see it.
South Orange is a fine name. It's the town itself that needs work. |
StringsTeacher99
Citizen
Username: Blue_eyes
Post Number: 232
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 1:47 pm: |
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The Lenape Village...? not to be confused with Lenape Valley which already exists. Guess that doesn't help! |
Matt Foley
Citizen
Username: Mattfoley
Post Number: 59
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 4:26 pm: |
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On K-Pax we refer to most of North Jersey as Lodi. We have not updated our maps in quite some time. |
chiquita
Citizen
Username: Chiquita
Post Number: 33
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 4:27 pm: |
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I'm always surprised to hear people saying that South Orange is declining. It is much nicer than when I moved to Maplewood in 1993, in my opinion. All the stores below the train tracks (e.g., Cait & Abby's) were vacant/boarded up. The streets in that area were in bad shape and there weren't nearly as many good places to eat as there are now. Progress has been slow, but it has been happening. I really like South Orange, and think you should be proud of it. (BTW, when house hunting, we looked in both }}SO and Maplewood, we just happened to settle on a Maplewood house we liked best.) |
Dave
Moderator
Username: Dave
Post Number: 4696
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 4:46 pm: |
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Any K-Paxian would love our fruity name.
And you do realize Kevin Spacey was born in South Orange, I hope. |
tom vilardi
Citizen
Username: Tlv350
Post Number: 6
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 5:43 pm: |
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Coming in on this late, but I remember the last time this was discussed (before this forum I think... or at least I didn't have the internet) they wanted to change the name to "South Mountain".
At that time someone came up with a hilarious satirical editorial for the local paper about re-naming everything in the town.
If anyone has access to that editorial (i.e, the writer), maybe this is the place to re-post it. As I recall it pretty much shut down any further griping about name changes. |
Eileen Roth
Citizen
Username: Sjamme
Post Number: 1
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 11:24 pm: |
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I've been living here for 40 years. I remember the push to change the name to South Mountain. I vaguely remember the article in the News -Record....There have been many changes in South Orange Village downtown... some good ...some not so good.... one thing.... no one will think kindly of having to approach So. Orange Ave at rush hour....but, that's the only way to get to Reservoir or Antonelli's or.... lot's of other good restaurants. If there'something that needs fixing, it's not the name.
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Soda
Citizen
Username: Soda
Post Number: 2126
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 11:48 pm: |
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Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 4791
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 17, 2004 - 3:22 pm: |
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A few years ago, there was a movement in the town of Fishkill, NY to change the name to Fish Save, because they didn't like promoting the image of killing. (As Dave Barry would say, I'm not making this up.) When the objectors pointed out that "kill" is merely the Dutch word for "river", the proposers said sure, they knew that, but not everyone will.
It's good that the movement lost, but it's pretty amazing that a large number of people thought it was a good idea. |
Joan
Citizen
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 4501
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 10:03 am: |
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A town's reputation is only as good as the town itself. If you don't like the direction the town is taking, work to improve the town. Changing its name may prove to be a short term fix (and may not even accomplish that) but it won't help matters for long. |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 319
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 12:44 pm: |
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How about Elysian Fields, New Jersey 07079? |
Barbara
Citizen
Username: Blh
Post Number: 389
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 1:27 pm: |
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Tom -- you're referring to a wonderful letter to the editor written by Tom Carlson. Tom posts here occasionally and will perhaps see your request for a reprise of his letter. |
Joan Auer
Citizen
Username: Joan
Post Number: 111
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 4:23 pm: |
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A town I grew up near in Westchester changed their name from North Tarrytown to Sleepy Hollow (from Washington Irving's description.) At first I thought the name change was ridiculous, but now I kind of like the new name. |
argon_smythe
Citizen
Username: Argon_smythe
Post Number: 463
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 7:58 pm: |
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You people are very fiscally short sighted. We could be Staples, NJ or Continental Airlines, NJ.
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Joan
Citizen
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 4504
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 8:27 pm: |
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If South Orange were to change its name to Abbott, NJ and the school district were to change it's name to the Maplewood Abbott School District, would we then be eligible for Abbott school district level funding from the State? |
Pizzaz
Citizen
Username: Pizzaz
Post Number: 1368
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2004 - 10:08 am: |
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In addition, perhaps we can rename Maplewood to Costello. Officially, it'll be known as the Abbott and Costello school district. Fitting for all the national media coverage bestowed these past couple of weeks. |
Iwant2 KeepMyJob
Citizen
Username: Fastfusion
Post Number: 11
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2004 - 1:13 pm: |
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How about "South Mountain School District" or "Double Trouble School District" |
Andrea Weisbard
Citizen
Username: Njnetsfan
Post Number: 31
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 2:25 am: |
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Pizzaz,
YOU ar too funny!! |
musicme
Citizen
Username: Musicme
Post Number: 916
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, December 24, 2004 - 7:37 am: |
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"No Christmas -for You!" |
Soda
Citizen
Username: Soda
Post Number: 2204
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, December 24, 2004 - 7:56 am: |
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Rudy Huxtable
Citizen
Username: Rudy_huxtable
Post Number: 32
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Monday, January 3, 2005 - 12:55 am: |
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Lets not call it something else and pretend we did.
ready, set.....GO!!
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Soda
Citizen
Username: Soda
Post Number: 2257
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, January 3, 2005 - 8:54 am: |
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South Belmar! |
extuscan
Citizen
Username: Extuscan
Post Number: 412
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 12:18 am: |
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Rename the whole town Montrose if you are worried about being a rotten orange... but don't you think the rotten oranges are more concerned? Kinda like when you drive into Newark and they want you to think you've just entered "Vailsburg"
John |
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