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PARROT HEAD
Citizen
Username: Island_jack
Post Number: 24
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 3:36 am: | 
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Well it's a new year folks. Your recycling has to be picked up every month, your metal and household refuse has to be picked up every month, and your Christmas trees have probably been shedding their needles on your muddy curbside for a few weeks (waiting to be picked up).
These tasks could be done on schedule with ease if DPW had sufficient man-power but, we don't. We're spreading ourselves thin at 300 Walton Ave. (You can chalk that one up to negligence on the part of Village Hall)
On Dec. 31st, three young, strong, able-bodied individuals were told that they had to leave DPW because of some political B.S...WHY?...Because the town has to pay benefits if a part-time employee works for more than six months.
Here's a solution...Hire them as full-time workers.
Footnote: Since I've been at DPW (6 years), nine employees have left (fired, or retired, or passed away.) Only three have been replaced.
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Charles De Mar
Citizen
Username: Charles_demar
Post Number: 5
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 9:45 am: |
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Viva DPW! |
Sitoyan
Citizen
Username: Sitoyan
Post Number: 29
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 10:01 am: |
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"Hire them as full-time workers."
Parrot Head, this means they'll have to increase our taxes. Are you, or anybody else, ready to pay more taxes so that we hire more workers at the DPW? |
Taylor M
Citizen
Username: Anotherusername
Post Number: 271
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 11:44 am: |
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Sitoyan-
The Parrot made this comment:
>>>Footnote: Since I've been at DPW (6 years), nine employees have left (fired, or retired, or passed away.) Only three have been replaced<<<
Based on this commentit seems there was enough money to pay these employees before. What happened to the money for the 6 that haven't been replaced?
Oh, yeah. Nevermind. It went to pay our wonderful elected officals and for all those 'Coming Soon signs' |
hariseldon
Citizen
Username: Hariseldon
Post Number: 262
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 12:58 pm: |
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Quit the b.s.,Taylor. Our trustees are NOT being paid and the "coming soon" signs weren't paid out of the village treasury.
Everything has gotten more expensive, much more so than the increase in our village taxes; utlities, health insurance,etc,etc,etc.
Quit throwing around comments that aren't accurate or truthful. It doesn't help your cause any and makes you sound like the crybaby you are. |
Katie Clayton
Citizen
Username: Grovykndofluv
Post Number: 142
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 1:14 pm: |
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oooooooooohhhhhhhhhh.....hariseldon..throwin punches!.....i'm surprised u wern't suspended for ur comments...
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In other words, respond to others how you'd like to be spoken to.
intresting that u can say what u want and other people can't w/o being suspended....what..r u a town employee that can get away with rude and "Personal attacks" ? |
Taylor M
Citizen
Username: Anotherusername
Post Number: 272
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 3:25 pm: |
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Well well well Hari while expenses have gone up I serious doubt they have gone up THAT MUCH!!! Let's see, The Parrot says in the 6 years he's been with the DPW 9 -count them NINE have left; but only 3 -count them again THREE have been replaced.
Hmmm, Let's say the DPW guys make $30,000 a year. Six employees not replaced at $30,000 a year comes to $180,000. I doubt expenses went up THAT MUCH.
Even if we say they make $20,000 a year $20,000 times 6 comes to $120,000. I'm sure both of my examples of what they make are incorrect, but you get the point.
As for the elected officals being paid. Corect me if I'm wrong, but didn't they just pass something where they not only get paid something for being an elected offical, but they get to also tap into a pension fund? If I also remember correctly Mark voted against it. (Mark?)
As for paying for the 'Coming Soon' signs? Where do you think the money comes from?
BTW- You don't know anything about me so to call me a 'Crybaby' is a personal attack. ESPECIALLY since I didn't even start this thread... |
Strings
Supporter
Username: Blue_eyes
Post Number: 314
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:03 pm: |
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Taylor - I agree with everything you say, plus chances are that the employees that were not replaced were probably making even more than that. Replacing a retired employee with a new hire is always a lot cheaper, right? They're not going to hire someone at the same salary that someone who's been working for years was making. Just even more of a reason to actually hire a few more people.
Regardless, it's probably more cost-effective in the long run to hire a few reliable, experienced and skilled full-time employees than having a constant turnover of "part time"* employees who only work for a few months at a time. It seems the town is too concerned with here and now to think about budgets down the line. My understanding is that this is, unfortunately, a dead topic because the town has already made it's decision this year. It's really too bad.
*it is also my understanding that part time dpw employees work 40 hours/week, but don't get benefits and aren't on salary. Parrot - you can correct me if I'm wrong.
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bets
Supporter
Username: Bets
Post Number: 975
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:20 pm: |
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The village doesn't want to pay 6 working guys benefits, but the Administrator/Treasurer/CFO has fully paid benefits FOR LIFE.
Yeah, these are priorities we call all be very proud of. |
SoOrLady
Citizen
Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 1689
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 8:20 pm: |
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Hari - " "coming soon" signs weren't paid out of the village treasury."
Perhaps.. but what IS coming out of the village pocket comes from the lack of foresight and due dilligence on the Shop Rite site.. and now, the delay in yet another remediation project at SOPAC.
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Mayor McCheese
Citizen
Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 88
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 1:38 am: |
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DPW provides a service that is NEEDED in this town. If what the Parrothead says is true then there should be more employees. If the town can afford to have a performing arts center, it should at least be able to have an ample supply of labor to upkeep the town.
Taylor - I agree, what did happen to that money? And, if costs have gone up, instead of hiring the 6 workers now, maybe we could hire 5. Wouldn't this compensate for the increased costs of labor?
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Allan J Rosen
Citizen
Username: Allanrosen
Post Number: 131
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 5:27 pm: |
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Let's separate fact from fiction,so that all can discuss reasonably what's happening. Last year there were 2 DPW workers who retired and were not replaced during the year because there was a hiring freeze because of the then existing economic circumstances. I understand that there is currently projected 1 resignation in later January and another worker who has been out sick for a while who is also projected to resign in the near future. The Trustees have had a budget review for 2005 and all 4 of these workers are slated to be replaced this year. I don't know if the 2 yet-to-resign workers are counted into the 6 claimed not to have been replaced, but either way the Trustees place a high priority on public works and in no way would allow the department to operate perpetually shorthanded. |
bets
Supporter
Username: Bets
Post Number: 976
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 7:19 pm: |
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quote:...all 4 of these workers are slated to be replaced this year.
In other words....
COMING SOON!!! |
Daniel I. Goldberg
Citizen
Username: Dig
Post Number: 25
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 12:52 pm: |
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Allan: How about trying to separate fact from fiction on the issue of benefits given to DPW employees, and those given to the Trustees and the Town Administrator/CFO/Treasurer. |
Angus MacGuyver
Citizen
Username: Macgyver
Post Number: 28
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 12:55 pm: |
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settle down ladies! |
Charles De Mar
Citizen
Username: Charles_demar
Post Number: 9
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 1:58 pm: |
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Daniel:
Please enlightens us with your "Vast" knoweledge instead of a trying to one up someone.
Weak. |
Allan J Rosen
Citizen
Username: Allanrosen
Post Number: 132
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 6:02 pm: |
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Daniel:
The Trustees have no benefits (and I voted against giving them any). The Village Administrator/CFO has the same benefits as the DPW employees. |
marion cobretti
Citizen
Username: Marion_cobretti
Post Number: 4
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 8:05 pm: |
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why should any of the trustees receive any benefits? i respect their position,but is this their full time job? i also understand their position consumes a lot of personal time,but it's something known going in. i have an attitude problem,but it's just a little one |
bets
Supporter
Username: Bets
Post Number: 981
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 9:42 pm: |
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Allen, does the Village Administrator/CFO/Treasurer's benefits package end with the termination of his employment by the village? |
bets
Supporter
Username: Bets
Post Number: 985
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 1:22 pm: |
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bump |
SoOrLady
Citizen
Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 1710
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 6:13 pm: |
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bets - If I recollect correctly, Mr. Gross has a rather substantial benefit package that includes lifetime benefits whether he is employed by our town or not. Mark, please correct me if I'm mistaken. |
Sitoyan
Citizen
Username: Sitoyan
Post Number: 30
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 8:27 pm: |
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Is it true that John Gross is a pharmacist and personal friend of the Village president Bill Calabrese? |
bets
Supporter
Username: Bets
Post Number: 986
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 8:48 pm: |
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So in fact the Administrator/Treasurer/CFO enjoys vastly superior benefits compared to other township employees, right, Allan? |
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