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Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13

Post Number: 520
Registered: 1-2004


Posted on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 - 7:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is this house on the South Mountain side of the Ave or the other side? I've got to go look tomorrow.
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jem
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Username: Jem

Post Number: 1168
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 - 9:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's on the other side from South Mountain (school, I assume you mean).
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happyman
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Username: Happyman

Post Number: 240
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 - 9:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

dgm: Exactly

Similar to a home with a '60 kitchen, S.O. is filled with homes that have not had landscaping care for 30+ - 50+ years. Not only the overhanging dead limbs, but also the root overgrowth can cause overall problems in your landscaping, drainage, foundation and the overall health of your yard.
I am certainly not proposing that a new homeowner clear cut or "Pulte-ize" their property! However, unless the town is going to monitor homeowners who sell their homes with dead or overgrown trees on it (I am not proposing this!!!), then they should not penalize new people who inherit this costly dilemma.
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doublea
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Username: Doublea

Post Number: 870
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah.... wouldn't it make as much sense to try to do something about the deer which destroy much of the landscaping? That matter seems to have been pushed off again. The County says it can't do anything until the surrounding towns agree on something and the surrounding towns evidently can't agree, and this suits many of the people who don't want to do anything about the deer (probably maybe of whom want to save the trees. Ironic.)
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mrosner
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Username: Mrosner

Post Number: 1683
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

doublea: I would love to know what solution the majority would like to see regarding the deer and their thoughts on how to pay.
My feeling is whatever route the county goes, that they should pay the full cost. The county would like to see the towns pay the cost.

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doublea
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Username: Doublea

Post Number: 871
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good morning Mark. I think there was a committee formed in South Orange to discuss what should be done about the deer, if anything. Do you know if they arrived at any consensus?
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mrosner
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Post Number: 1684
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't know if they have yet. At this point, the county has refused to say that they will spend any money. If they came back and said we are going to do a 50-50 split and each town will pay a portion (based on population), I would go along with whatever the concensus decided as a solution.
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doublea
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Username: Doublea

Post Number: 872
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, there are two less apple trees in my rear yard for the deer to munch on. Who would've thought they like magnolia trees?
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mtierney
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Username: Mtierney

Post Number: 753
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Overgrown? I like to think of it as Mature! That's what separates us from the new developments or those with contorted, johnny appleseed, one of each kind landscaping that is so popular now. Some of this new stuff seems to be crying out in pain!

Take a hard look at some of the newly landscaped properties - particularly in Short Hills - where boulders are being "planted" as well. (I guess the rocks are deer-proof)

Naturally, I do believe that trees need maintenance which covers removal of dead limbs and checking for disease of course.
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MHD
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Username: Mayhewdrive

Post Number: 1867
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Happyman,

What a great new verb you created:

Pulte-ize
v. pulte·ized, pulte·izing, pulte·izes

1. To ruin completely; spoil
2. To tear down or break up; demolish.
3. To do away with all signs of life on a property; put an end to.
4. To overdevelop with prefabricated materials.
5. To log an area by removing all of the trees at one time.
6. To show a willful lack of care and attention to your neighbors.
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Daniel I. Goldberg
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Username: Dig

Post Number: 44
Registered: 8-2004
Posted on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Re: the deer issue. I hate them as much as the next person, but screw the County. I don't know what they do for us, other than take our money. Aside from the parks (from which many of the deer roam), and county roads, I truly fail to see the purpose in a County government, other than to provide an opportunity for political abuses, an additional layer of beuracracy, and do nothing government jobs.

At its heart, this is really a State development issue. The western side of the State is developing land that was once home to the deer. Why do we now have to pay for that? I'm am sick and tired of the northern Counties paying the freight for the rest of the State. Let us pray that Corzine (who I think is a shoe-in) is sympathetic to the unfair burden shouldered by us, and is prepared to do somthing about it.
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happyman
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Username: Happyman

Post Number: 243
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 - 1:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mtierney-
I think we are on the same page here….

All I am saying is that ordinances, such as the one proposed above, are shortsighted and frequently indiscriminately applied. If we want to maintain the beautiful mature trees that differentiate us from other communities then I do not believe this type of regulation is appropriate or effective. IMHO

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mtierney
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Username: Mtierney

Post Number: 754
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 - 4:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Let us pray that Corzine (who I think is a shoe-in) is sympathetic to the unfair burden shouldered by us, and is prepared to do somthing about it."

Mr. Goldberg, did you mean to say "buy in"?

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argon_smythe
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Username: Argon_smythe

Post Number: 528
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, February 9, 2005 - 8:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh that's a shame. One of the things I always loved about that house was the trees and how it was hidden away in there. I would love to live in a neighborhood where all the lots looked like that one did. I haven't been by that way in a while but I can tell I'm going to be disappointed just from what people wrote. Oh well, not my place, not my problem...

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Matt Foley
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Username: Mattfoley

Post Number: 83
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 1:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

after 30+ years I now know what that house looks like.
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Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13

Post Number: 529
Registered: 1-2004


Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 6:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Me too! It's beautiful! Abd hugh!
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tom vilardi
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Username: Tlv350

Post Number: 12
Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 9:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All,

Have been watching the house. Looks like it will finally look like the show place it was meant to be. I think the roof is supposed to resemble "thatch" - an Irish cottage look. I live on Cumberland Road, and the first night I drove up the street I thought there was a bus parked on South Orange Ave., until I realized I was looking into their newly cleared livingroom window!

Not sure about trees. Someone told me that alot of the maples are the faster-growing variety, shallow rooted - suited for woodlands - ie, they blow over easily. Hard woods and ornamentals are more suited to neighborhoods like ours, but I think rather than worry about who's cutting trees, the town should worry about construction violations and dangerous conditions.

I've got a neighbor who cut a new entrance into Cumberland for his driveway and then stopped all construction over 2 years ago! So now we have two fast-built entrances, a half built wall, what looks like open electical conduit right at the broken up sidewalk and some sort of partially built "thing" in the backyard. As far as I know unless approved, you get ONE driveway cut AND if you don't complete a job you receive a fine. We're right around the corner from South Mountain School and I've watched strollers go out onto the street rather than work their way over the damaged sidewalk.

Sort of got off the subject, but has anyone else experienced similar? And yes I have called the town.

Tom
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Hoops
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Username: Hoops

Post Number: 76
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

pulte-ize continued...

7. to create a plastic look, a replica of the real thing.
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Josh M.
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Username: Jmaxlaw

Post Number: 212
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A friend of mine was their neighbor-- and the owners would let us play tennis there after school. The home is a one-of-a-kind original... and has been called the mushroom house for as long as I can remember.

As for this as a discussion at the BOT meeting-- perhaps they would've been better off discussing a redevelopment plan or potential malpractice claims against certain attorneys and/or title companies for failing to realize that the "New Market" site was partially owned by NJ Transit when it was condemned.
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doublea
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Username: Doublea

Post Number: 873
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 1:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I drove past it on the Wyoming side today; usually I pass it on the South Orange Ave. side. This was really a professional job and well-thought out (Argon may not agree).

Most of the trees that were cut down were white pines. Several of them were very close to the house. White pines, if not topped off, grow to be gigantic. The pine needles are really a pain. Based on what has been done there so far, I'm sure the final product will be spectacular and in good tate.

(Josh - my wife's uncle used to play tennis there when he was an adult).
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Josh M.
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Username: Jmaxlaw

Post Number: 214
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 1:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

doublea--

No surprise-- from my recollection-- at least in the mid to late 1980's-- the family that lived there allowed others to use the court regularly. It beat having to go all the way down to Baird.
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Bobkat
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Username: Bobk

Post Number: 7556
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 8:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is this the house Sbenois bought?
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sbenois
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Username: Sbenois

Post Number: 13165
Registered: 10-2001


Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 6:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Levene Family
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Username: Mushroomfamily

Post Number: 1
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 8:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello everyone,
We are the new the new family of the "Mushroom house". I am glad to read that everyone likes our new house (now that you can see it) and it is just a beautiful on the inside as out! We are new to the house, but not new to the town. We use to live at 244 North Wyoming Ave (long yellowish color with green shutters) and moved in to the mushroom house in Dec. From our old house at 244 you can see some of the work we did on that house. This spring we plan to plant many gardens. So keep a look out in the spring!

The Levene family “Mushroom Family”

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