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     pan Citizen Username: Pan Post Number: 93 Registered: 8-2001 |
I wouldn't want to be in the shoes of any one who gets elected to the BoT in May. The new BoT will inherit too many bad long-term contracts, obligations and debt that the present trustees leave behind. The new BoT will be stuck with the half-finished building for an Arts Center with questionable viability; with thirty-year PILOTS; with numerous outstanding bonds and debts; with a bad CFO/Treasurer for ever; with a bad administrator for at least five years; with a batched-up redevelopment; with high taxes and a disgruntled public, and so on. I wouldn't believe any challengers in the next election who'd say that they can fix this mess. But I would vote for any challenger just so that I oust the incumbents and put a stop to this madness. | ||
| hariseldon Citizen Username: Hariseldon Post Number: 275 Registered: 5-2001  |
Pan, you post makes ansolutely no sense. It is totally illogical and not thought out..If you wouldn't believe any challenger could fix this mess than why vote for them cause they can stop this madness. Totally inconsistant reasoning. Oh and BTW, there is no 30 year Pilot.. | ||
| Pizzaz Citizen Username: Pizzaz Post Number: 1487 Registered: 11-2001  |
With the above post hari, I'd say the man o manochevitz has kicked in pretty good. No 30 year pilot? What then is Gaslight Commons? Pan, you should know that hariseldon is Soda. It's a game he plays to intimidate posters. I'd say from my reading of your post, you're on the mark. I would suggest though that if we work together, anything is possible. For now, the focus needs to move to the upcoming election. We need a voter turnout of at least 40-45% to unseat the incumbents (Steglitz and Theroux). Please stay involved. | ||
| doublea Supporter Username: Doublea Post Number: 893 Registered: 3-2003 |
Hari - You're wrong. Gaslight Commons has been given a 30 year PILOT. | ||
| hariseldon Citizen Username: Hariseldon Post Number: 277 Registered: 5-2001 |
I was alluding to the supermarket situation. Sorry if I wasn't clear. | ||
| Soda Supporter Username: Soda Post Number: 2586 Registered: 5-2001  |
Pan: I'm (Gasp!) with Pizzaz on this: Please do involve yourself with the issues our Village is dealing (or not dealing) with. Read the papers. Attend meetings. And ignore gossip, rumors, and political flatulence. We need an informed citizenry. Pizzaz: Lemme guess. It was just past midnight, the evening rush had ended, and you were feeling totally wiped. So you wobbled over to the PC and vented... No biggie, but now that you're no longer stoned (one must hope) let's get a couple of things straightened out, OK? (A) I'm not hariseldon (Ask Dave). And I do not "play games to intimidate" ANYBODY. EVER. ...Of course, I can't help it if cogent argument and a desire to stick to the facts is intimidating to YOU... And (2) Your pulled-from-your-rectum statistic on a needed voter turnout is as bogus as your self-inflating invitation that Pan -- or anybody else -- "work with" you. -s. BTW: You're only going to have to unseat Mary. Steve isn't running. Maybe you should be more informed before shooting off your mouth. On the other hand, why break a streak? | ||
| Pizzaz Citizen Username: Pizzaz Post Number: 1488 Registered: 11-2001 |
You say he's not running, I haven't heard anyone else say that. Oh, but of course, you're in the know.  BTW: last night I attended a rec committee meeting at Baird. You should get more involved in the community rather than shoot your mouth on this board. | ||
| Daniel I. Goldberg Citizen Username: Dig Post Number: 47 Registered: 8-2004 |
Mark: I don't get this. If I understand correctly, the recent amdendment was a reallocation of Gross' salary. How much time is left on his current Admin. contract? I really don't understand how the Board could have done this, and not expected that there would be serious backlash. While I don't know all of the facts, based upon what I do know this sounds dangerously close to a violation by the Trustee's of their fiduciary duties. How is a reallocation in the best interest of the Town? | ||
| LibraryLady(ncjanow) Supporter Username: Librarylady Post Number: 2198 Registered: 5-2001  |
Do I have to send you two to have a timeout as well? (See SoapboxPolitics). This board is gonna get mightly lonely if all you testoterone laden posters don't stop whining. | ||
| Soda Supporter Username: Soda Post Number: 2589 Registered: 5-2001 |
Pizzaz: I've said it before, and Doublea just said so as well, on another S.O. thread. Congratulations on attending a meeting of a committee of which you happen to be a member. I'm sure that your civic energy and sage input -- both there and on this message board -- are widely admired, respected, and sought-after. Or not. -s. BTW: You have no idea how involved I am or am not in our community, and I'll thank you not to presume that you do. Go mix a drink for yourself. | ||
| mrosner Citizen Username: Mrosner Post Number: 1711 Registered: 4-2002 |
Daniel: I voted against it. Since Trustee Rosen has posted on here, and he voted in favor, maybe he can explain. I would love to see his explanation. | ||
| Daniel I. Goldberg Citizen Username: Dig Post Number: 48 Registered: 8-2004 |
Mark: I am not accusing you of anything. I know that you voted against it. But, Trustee Rosen seems to be silent on the issue. | ||
| mrosner Citizen Username: Mrosner Post Number: 1712 Registered: 4-2002 |
Daniel: I know, but the only ones who can answer the questions would be someone who voted in favor of the resolution. | ||
| MHD Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 1898 Registered: 5-2001  |
Mark, Was there any public discussion on the issue at the Meeting Monday night? Since there was no audio feed from the meeting, those of us at home didn't hear what happened. | ||
| Pizzaz Citizen Username: Pizzaz Post Number: 1489 Registered: 11-2001 |
Position Available: Mounted Flexible Flyer Sled Patrol - Soda, this one's for you.  | ||
| mrosner Citizen Username: Mrosner Post Number: 1713 Registered: 4-2002 |
MHD: No, the other three did not want to discuss (Trustee Joyce was not at the meeting). | ||
| MHD Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 1899 Registered: 5-2001 |
"Did not want to discuss????" That's shameful. I agree with Daniel above: This sounds dangerously close to a violation by the Trustee's of their fiduciary duties. How is a reallocation in the best interest of the Town? Perhaps Dr. Rosen can post here to try to clear the air of this latest stench in South Orange. | ||
| doublea Supporter Username: Doublea Post Number: 894 Registered: 3-2003 |
As far as Steve not running, he has made a couple of comments at BOT meetings going back two years suggesting he wasn't planning on running, or at least that was my reading. I think Mark recently suggested the same. Onr of the ironic things is that I went back over the minutes to determine whether the BOT ever really authorized going ahead with SOPAC. Several years ago, the trustees had to vote on whether to hire an architect to come up with the conceptual plan. Steve said he wasn't going to vote for it until he was satisfied that it wasn't a "white elephant." How's that for irony. | ||
| MHD Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 1905 Registered: 5-2001 |
Looks like SODA is trying to bump other topics ahead of this one, which should be the most important issue in South Orange this week. singlemalt - if you find out who we can contact to investigate this, please send a PL. Meanwhile, we will await an explanation from Dr. Rosen (or Steglitz/Taylor) on how this benefits the town. | ||
| Marc Bromfeld Citizen Username: Time4change Post Number: 1 Registered: 2-2005 |
I have read through the numerous emails and I am quite amazed at the CFO/Treasurer (Mr. Gross) situation. I have been in business for quite some time and manage close to a $40MM annual budget for my assigned portfolio. If I offered someone the deal as it is explained above and as I understand it; I would be fired on the spot. What seems necessary here is change in leadership. Not sure what the alternative (leadership) is, but I do know the ONLY way to change the leadership is to get out and VOTE! I understand that these (Village President and Trustees) are non salaried positions, however the key to being a good leader is knowing what you are good at and resourcing the best possible individuals to assist you in getting the job done. No shame in resourcing, in fact it is the proper way to conduct business. That said, looking at the current state of affairs in SO, it is most definatly time for a change. PLEASE VOTE on election day. |
