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AGD4
Citizen Username: Agd4
Post Number: 36 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Sunday, May 1, 2005 - 7:12 pm: |
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This Saturday, May 7th, 10am to Noon: During the Montrose Park Historic District Association's annual Mountain Station cleanup on Saturday May 7th, MPHDA will sell the old street signs that formerly designated streets in the historic district. The old street signs reflect our evolving history and make a great gift for a friend or family member who grew up or spent time living in Montrose Park. Maybe someone who moved away would love to have the sign from the street where they lived! Current residents or those who used to live in Montrose who have a particular affinity for the street where they live will also be interested in this unique, one-time opportunity. Buy it now and gift it during the holidays. Signs sold on May 7th at Mountain Station will be sold at the “Buy it Now” price of $75 per sign, FIRST COME FIRST SERVED BASIS. Following our May 7th pre-auction sale, the remaining street signs will be sold on eBay (or on another on-line auction site at a reserve price of $25, or “buy it now” price of $75. Proceeds from the sale of the street signs will go towards MPHDA's proposed Grove Park Pavilion project and other MPHDA activities or projects. FOR MANY STREETS, THERE ARE ONLY A FEW SIGNS, SO DON'T MISS THIS ADVANCE SALE OPPORTUNITY!!!!! While you're there, we encourage you to participate in the annual cleanup, mulch spreading, and planting of annuals at the Vose Avenue side of Mountain Station. Mountain Station is an important landmark in the historic district and serves as one of the most important gateways to our neighborhood. Green thumbs are not required. The cleanup usually lasts approximately two hours. Please bring your own rake, pruning sheers, or other gardening gear. If you have any questions, please email: info@MontroseParkSONJ.org
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gemini
Citizen Username: Gemini
Post Number: 408 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Sunday, May 1, 2005 - 8:50 pm: |
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When is montrose in may this year? |
   
AGD4
Citizen Username: Agd4
Post Number: 38 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Sunday, May 1, 2005 - 9:47 pm: |
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The next Montrose in May will be in 2006, (May 20, 2006). MPHDA is alternating house tour years with the South Orange Historical & Preservation Society (SOHPS). SOHPS is hosting a tour of Prospect Street neighborhood homes on May 21st. |
   
Analog01
Citizen Username: Analog01
Post Number: 111 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Sunday, May 1, 2005 - 9:59 pm: |
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$75 ! yikes. So this Grove Park Pavilion, is it for use by Montrose residents only, or are the busloads of out-of-towners also allowed to use it? What can be done or is being done to promote use of the park by residents? |
   
AGD4
Citizen Username: Agd4
Post Number: 39 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Monday, May 2, 2005 - 12:28 am: |
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Grove Park is a Public Park. Although I am sure this park is used by non-residents, I know many people who live by the park and it is heavily used by South Orange residents as well. |
   
AGD4
Citizen Username: Agd4
Post Number: 40 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Monday, May 2, 2005 - 12:31 am: |
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Grove Park is a Public Park. Although I am sure this park is used by non-residents, I know many people who live by the park and it is heavily used by South Orange residents as well. The $75 is a tax deductible donation (to the fullest extent of the law) as MPHDA is a nonprofit 501(c)3 Association. If you feel the "Buy it Now" price is high, than you can risk waiting for the online sale later this year.
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Andrea Weisbard
Citizen Username: Njnetsfan
Post Number: 376 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Monday, May 2, 2005 - 2:14 am: |
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Isn't Grove Park In SOUTH ORANGE My friend's and I alternate between walking in the reservation and walking around Grove Park, so we don't get stuck in a rut. I thought public parks are open to everyone no matter what town they are from. I will admitt if I am proven wrong on this.} |
   
thegoodsgt
Citizen Username: Thegoodsgt
Post Number: 823 Registered: 2-2002

| Posted on Monday, May 2, 2005 - 7:45 am: |
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Now wait a minute. Why only the Vose side of Mountain Station? Why not beautify the station in its entirety, as most of the folks who commute via Mountain see both sides of the station. :-)
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talk-it-up
Citizen Username: Talkitup
Post Number: 123 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Monday, May 2, 2005 - 9:04 am: |
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West Montrose meets the criteria to become an Historic District. They also can create a community association to help clean up the station and provide plantings. Some of us have also throughout the years provided plantings on the East side on an individual basis. I do not think anyone intentionally leaves out the West side of the station. The Montrose Park Historic District was started as a community organization not a Village Historical Society and one of the goals was beautification of Montrose Park. If each community organization adopted an area to beautify it would go a long way. Montrose Park includes Grove and Mountain Station East. The East Clark Street area was sited by the state as a having the criteria to be an Historic District. Perhaps this is something to discuss with the Historical Society. There are other areas that also have the criteria to become an Historic District. Perhaps Montrose Park can have a seminar discussing how they were founded, incorporated, and implemented the process. They could perhaps indicate the areas considered by the State. This could be done with the Historical Society as a group effort to promote districting in the Village. Montrose Park is not the exception, it is the example for the other areas to follow. |
   
mrosner
Citizen Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 1895 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Monday, May 2, 2005 - 11:36 am: |
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talk-it-up.... well said.
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kathy
Citizen Username: Kathy
Post Number: 1111 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, May 2, 2005 - 1:39 pm: |
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The railroad is the western border of the Montrose Park Historic District, so the Vose Avenue side of Mountain Station is in the district but the Meeker Street side is not. |
   
thegoodsgt
Citizen Username: Thegoodsgt
Post Number: 825 Registered: 2-2002

| Posted on Monday, May 2, 2005 - 4:01 pm: |
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I understand the need to draw a line in the sand somewhere, but how much more work would it take to do a little something to the west side of Mountain Station? It just seems like the right thing to do in such a beautiful community as ours. As a point of reference, I shovel snow, keep the sidewalk clean, and pick up errant trash to either side of my own house and across the street. I don't have to, but doing so improves the character of my block. Can we do the same with Mountain Station? |
   
Josh Holtz
Citizen Username: Jholtz
Post Number: 16 Registered: 4-2004
| Posted on Monday, May 2, 2005 - 4:51 pm: |
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thegoodsgt: on Saturday maybe you should see how much work is involved |
   
talk-it-up
Citizen Username: Talkitup
Post Number: 126 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Monday, May 2, 2005 - 11:48 pm: |
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Sorry Kathy, need to look at the map again. Vose Ave is not a hard line.The boundry goes back and forth between following the railroad track and Vose Avenue. Mountain Station East Side is within the District, but Mountain Station itself was placed on the Register long before. The same irregularities in boundaries occur at other areas, such as Montrose Avenue. People should refer to the application if they want to be sure if a property is within or not. |
   
talk-it-up
Citizen Username: Talkitup
Post Number: 127 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Monday, May 2, 2005 - 11:55 pm: |
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Clean up at Mountain Station--- better yet, why not get a group of people from West Montrose and coordinate a clean up / planting for the West side of the Station for the same day? Go ahead, bring the two communities together. I absolutely agree that the whole area should be done and that would divide the responsibilty between the two neiborhoods. It would give a chance to discuss possible districting in your neighborhood and share some thoughts.
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Dave
Moderator Username: Dave
Post Number: 6144 Registered: 4-1997

| Posted on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 - 8:18 am: |
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It's great the station is getting this attention. It's a real asset to South Orange. |
   
kathy
Citizen Username: Kathy
Post Number: 1121 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 - 1:22 pm: |
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Talk, You're technically right about the borders, although I didn't say that Vose Ave. was the boundary. The railroad is the rough western border of the MPHD, but the border does jog up to Vose in some places in order to exclude newer houses that do not meet the historical parameters of the district. Similar "cutouts" exist at other places around the borders of the district. However, no part of the district is west of the railroad, so my point still stands. And yes, the railroad station is on the historic register separately, as are most of the stations along the Morris & Essex Lines. But the cleanup/planting work is done by members of the Montrose Park Historic District Association, so it makes sense that they would be working within their district. This does not mean that other people couldn't do similar work on the other side of the tracks. |
   
AGD4
Citizen Username: Agd4
Post Number: 41 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 - 11:42 pm: |
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MPHDA has focused on the Vose Avenue side as it is within the boundaries of the historic district. We find we usually get about 10 people to consistently show up for the station clean-up and can only focus on a limited area. MPHDA has successfully lobbied for restoration/renovation of the station. Unfortunately, we were not successful in getting NJ Transit to replace the tile roof "in kind". However, we were successfully in getting NJ Transit to have a custom color match of the composite resin tile that will be used. In addition, they agreed at our request, to have custom finials manufactured for the roofline. Most likely they will be manufactured from concrete. We asked that station sidewalks and curbs be addressed. NJ Transit will evaluate and repair. We requested repaving of the station lots, but they cannot commit to this at this time. The dead Beech tree on the Vose Avenue side will be removed this Spring. At our request, the sign for the station on Montrose Avenue is now lettered on both sides (up until last week it was lettered on one side.) At our request, the sign hanging from the eves of the Vose Avenue side will be relocated so that the decorate brickwork will again be visible. In addition, we have permission from NJ Transit to faux paint the boarded windows of the station houses (at our community's expense.) So, as you can see, although our clean-up efforts have traditionally focused on the Vose Avenue side where the house tour traditionally commences, our lobbying efforts have supported the station as a whole. If anyone has contact names/numbers of West Montrose Neighborhood associations, MPHDA would be happy to coordinate a clean-up day. Sincerely, Amy Dahn MPHDA President |
   
mrosner
Citizen Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 1899 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 8:30 am: |
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Amy: In case nobody ever told you, Thanks..... Your efforts and volunteerism is greatly appreciated by all. Mark |
   
Dave
Moderator Username: Dave
Post Number: 6167 Registered: 4-1997

| Posted on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 11:57 am: |
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I nominate Amy for Villager of the Month. Maybe Mark will 2nd it and use his considerable influence to make it happen. |
   
mrosner
Citizen Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 1900 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 1:15 pm: |
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I think she was a villager of the month early last year, but of course, I am in agreement that we can make her villager of the month again OR as washashore would say: Amy Dahn for BOT |
   
AGD4
Citizen Username: Agd4
Post Number: 42 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 - 1:19 pm: |
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Thanks for the compliments! Yes, I was already honored as Villager of the Month, and believe it or not it was almost two years ago. So, to get this topic back on thread... street sign sale on Saturday, May 7th 10am to noon. Check out the MPHDA website for a listing of streets in Montrose and other upcoming MPHDA activities. www.MontroseParkSONJ.org
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talk-it-up
Citizen Username: Talkitup
Post Number: 129 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Thursday, May 5, 2005 - 4:39 pm: |
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Kathy I agree with you on all points. I may have misunderstood your first comment. I am concerned about the borders around Montrose Historic District. Some houses on the fringes were told they were in (and weren't) I would advise people to consult the application. AGD4 - It would be great if West Montrose would come out. |