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algebra2
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Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 1:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I see no probalem with a restaurant owner NOT wanting children in a fine dining establishment, that's fine with me. For years I've heard that Gaslight isn't kid friendly -- that IS their perogative -- so anyway, I go somewhere else with my child. Maybe a sign on the door which reads -- No Kid's Menu Available or something indicating that they'd prefer no kids would be helpful since, unlike Jocelyn's, noobody is just going to guess that a brewpub is a fine dining establishment and not kid friendly.
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User58
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Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 3:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

First of all mcDonalds is more of a fine dining establishment than this place. And as far as a sign on the door I have never in all my years seen such a thing. Children are people and deserve the same respect as anyone else. And their behavior should not be pre judged! And as far as not being welcomed in a restaurant what is that about? If I choose to take my children to Jocelyn's or any other fine restaurant I am free to do so and I would expect them to be treated with respect. And I have since their birth taken them to many restaurnats and have never had an issue other than the gaslight. I have seen adults as well as children behave poorly in restaurants and at that point I have no issue with the owner correcting the situation. But to have issue with all children in a neighbor brew pub is outrageous
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mrosner
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Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 4:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can understand not wanting kids in the front section (by the bar), but to just flat out take the attitude that a family is not welcome seems pretty extreme. I can even understand asking a family not to come back if their kids are out of control but they flat out do not want children (and I assume under the drinking age).
I have been to Gaslight a couple of times around 7pm and the place has been empty so not sure why they would turn down any business. Something more reasonable might be no children under age 12 after 8pm.


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Two Sense
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Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 4:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Went to the Gaslight for lunch with another adult, at his insistence and after a 12-year boycott, and was told we wouldn't be served other than in the smokey bar area after requesting a non-smoking seat. In view of the three other occupied tables, it didn't seem like it would be especially challenging to accommodate our simple request.

With its consistently dreadful anti-customer attitude, one can only assume this place is a cover for another business. No one could possibly run a restaurant with such outrageous disregard for its customers.
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algebra2
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Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 4:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Huh, User -- I love my child and will move the world for him but I don't feel as though I am entitled to take him to any restaurant I wish. I would not take him to Jocelyn's on a Saturday evening(probably not any evening unless we had a 5:30 reservation and he was as quiet as a mouse). Why do you feel you are entitled to take young children to a fine dining establishment? I find that rude. Maybe I am old fashioned but if I went into a shmancy place to celebrate a special occasion with another adult and found a family with a two year old at the table next to me I would be very angry.
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mrosner
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Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 4:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Algebra: Where doe User say his children are on the younger side? Might they be teenagers who are just as unwelcome at Gaslight?
I think two sense hits the real problem on the head. They appear to have an anti-customer attitude and it is hard to understand.
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Ligeti
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Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 4:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gaslight Brewery a "fine dining establishment"? Come on! When you enter, you've got to wade through a bunch of guys belching, farting and smoking while they yell at silly basketball and hockey games! I like the place for what it is -- somewhere to get a burger and read my newest issue of Opera News. But fine dining it ain't. I saw a centipede in the bathroom one time.
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User58
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Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 4:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WOW! How would you feel about a noisy adult? Children are people. So you feel children have no right to enjoy a fine restaurant? Ho do you feel about a blind person with a dog in a restaurant? I dine out with our friends and at times they bring their grandfather who has unfortunately had a stroke and at times is loud because of his condition and I enjoy having him with us and totaly respect his right to enjoy a fine restaurant. Do people with tourette's disorder have the right to dine in a fine restaurant? I guess only if they are adults.
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User58
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Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 4:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Algebra...you see the issue here is not the children it is the parents inablility to controll their children. I have as big an issue with noisy children in a restaurant as I have with noisy adults in a restaurant. I dine out all the time and I see well behaved children and adults as often as I encounter noisy children and adults. So the real issue here is everyone should behave while in a restaurant regardless of the type of restaurant.
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algebra2
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Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 4:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MR -- User says he's been taking them to fine establishments since birth.

WOW -- User, a noisy adult, if they were so noisy as to be rude -- well then they'd be a rude adult. Common sense User. I do take my sick grandpa out to restaurants and since he can be loud we choose to go early and make certain the restaurant seats us in a place where we will be the least bother to other diners. A quiet, romantic restaurant is probably an inappropriate choice since he speaks VERY LOUD. As much as we want to enjoy a fine meal my concern is with the other 50 people in the restaurant!
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AntoninaKC
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Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 8:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks mayor mccheese for pointing out the stupidity of wnb's message - obviously in this forum we are merely venting troubles we have had- its not like we want to change the world or close down gaslight just because they are anti-customer. (though that might be nice, after all I have read about them)
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Mayor McCheese
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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, someone agreed with me. I think that may be the first time that has happened.
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bets
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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 1:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mayor, I've always agreed with you.
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sullymw
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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 8:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I never hear anything good about this place. Never been myself, but based on all of this chatter, I'll never go with or without my kids. How does a place like that survive? Probably bc of the bar patrons, sports, etc. The owners are apparently clueless since their attitude toward adults is as inappropriate as it is toward children. Why would anyone patronize them?
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wnb
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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 9:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

AntoninaKC said "heres a good idea- you know how the site has "MOL" bumper stickers, someone come up with 'say NO to Gaslight' stickers so we can show how we feel about this crappy place!"

That's what I was referring to in my post. Just scroll up a little bit. I thought the "bumper sticker" reference would be sufficient reference.

I have no problem with complaining. It was this point I had the main issue with.

And look, now sullymw won't even try the place once, based on what people wrote here. Just to sit down and maybe have a drink and see for yourself.

Now, I can say that from my personal experience, I've been to places that people rave about on this board, and been wildly unimpressed, and been to places people complain about ceaselessly, and had a very nice time.

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sullymw
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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 9:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm easily manipulated

Why waste my time and money? I have never once seen nor heard a positive review of the place. If I even get a whiff of bad customer relations, I am unlikely to give them my business. I prefer to patronize those who welcome me and my family and treat us with respect.
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Yossarian
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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 9:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've always felt that gaslight is good for takeout. A little pricy, yes, but you get large portions. Their Lemon Herb Chicken is very good. The bar gets smokey, but is you're lucky it will be empty. Have a beer. Order your food. Take it home. Not a bad experience at all. I've had nice chats with the bartenders. I ignore the owners.
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User58
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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also lets put this in perspective. First of all this dump is the furthest thing from a fine restaurant. You enter into a smoke filled, dingy, smelly bar past a juke box and darts and shuffleboard and then you enter a dining area. So the argument that children do not belong in this restaurant is outrageous. They sell burgers,wings,sandwiches,ribs!!!
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aneighbor
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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 1:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

once when I posted a message on their guestbook about my horrible experience there, within a short time they deleted it. They're not worth it!
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Stevie
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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 2:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I get take out from there on a regular basis and never had a problem. Their burgers are good. I've even eaten there a couple of times and thought it was ok. I don't have young kids any more so I can't speak to the kid issue.
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Innisowen
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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 2:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Haven't been to GLB in months. However, reading these posts, I hear consistent complaints of:
smokey atmosphere, mediocre food, so-so service, unresponsive and negative customer focus, etc., etc.

If half the above is true, and I believe all of it is, why are we all bothering to keep on writing about it? Are we hoping that the owners will get the message and change? If they haven't done so before now, it "ain't gonna happen..."
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peteglider
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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 4:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

election's over. we need another target we can't do anything about

/p
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susan1014
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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 4:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nope, we keep posting because new people keep moving into town. For most other bad restaurants, I'm willing to say try it for yourself, you mileage may vary.

For this one, I think it's nice if parents know how they may be treated in advance!

I have no hope for the current owners -- I just keep hoping they'll sell to professionals someday!
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vermontgolfer
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Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 7:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pete,

Great post, guess you witmessed the BOT meeting on Monday!
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Sheena Collum SHU
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Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 2:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Couldn't resist going to the Gaslight today for the first time with a friend (had to find out what the MOL talk was about)

Sat next to a table with about 4 toddlers and one baby that was crying...

The waiter was very nice to them and there were no problems...

Not to say that all of your concerns aren't valid and what not but I'm sure everyone has a different experience depending on what time they go and who is working...

Mine was personally enjoyable
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Soda
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Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 6:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

KID-FRIENDLY RESTAURANT...
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Pizzaz
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Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 7:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

a burger and Soda? or how about White Castle?

http://www.southorangevillage.com/cgi-bin/show.cgi?tpc=62746&post=394569#POST394 569

Now, what do you want next?

http://www.southorangevillage.com/cgi-bin/show.cgi?tpc=3127&post=394575#POST3945 75
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Jeff Alexander
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Posted on Thursday, June 2, 2005 - 9:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The problem starts at the top.. In our opinion (the wife and I) Cindy is as nasty of a person you will ever meet and the reason we will never set foot in there again.
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NORA
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Posted on Thursday, June 2, 2005 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bring Back Don's. One of the best Cheeseburgers I ever had
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red_alert
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Posted on Sunday, June 5, 2005 - 9:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here here Nora. Don's was great. I loved their Mint Chip Malted.
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Soda
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Posted on Sunday, June 5, 2005 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And the birthday cakes.
And the pickled cabbage bowls.
And the portraits of real people.
And the take-out counter.
And the full parking lot.
And the onion rings.
And being thirty-eight.

-s.

BTW: I'm thirty-nine again this year.

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