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Meredith Shifman
Citizen
Username: Meredithshifman
Post Number: 1
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 11:12 pm: | 
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On the thread entitled "What is going on with the old rug store location?" Larry David wrote:
"Is this the Elaine Harris who went to a debate on the Friday night of her daughter's Bat Mitzvah during the time she was running for BOT? I think that speaks voloumes." (sic) (April 23, 2005; Post 7).
I'm not a regular Maplewood Online reader--in fact, I just heard about this remark two days ago from a friend of mine. Funny how gossip spreads, isn't it? Needless to say, I went home to read this slander and registered right away so that I could respond. Larry David, allow ME to speak volumes:
Elaine Harris has lived in South Orange for over a quarter of a century and she has been an active and dedicated citizen. Not only is she a South Orange homeowner, she has a thriving business in town. She is actively involved in various town organizations, including--but not limited to--presiding over the Chamber of Commerce and serving on the board of trustees of JESPY. She raised two daughters here and sent them both to the local public schools, from kindergarden through 12th grade. They even attended the local camps and a local pre-school. Ms. Harris is a member of a synagogue in town where she has been very active in the Sisterhood organization. Say what you will about her politics, but how dare you insinuate that she is selfish and/or has misguided values. Certainly, Ms. Harris is a dedicated, active resident and a wonderful asset to this community. How do I know all this? Because I am her daughter!
In the fall of 1996 my mother decided to run for the BOT to save this town from political corruption. And, yes, it was the same year as my Bat Mitzvah. My mother invested a lot of time and energy into her campaign, but she never neglected her daughters or put her election before us (or before my religious coming-of-age). ELAINE HARRIS WAS PRESENT AT THE FRIDAY NIGHT SERVICE THE WEEKEND OF MY (HER DAUGHTER'S) BAT MITVAH. Not only that, she was present that (Friday) morning when we took family photos before the start of the Sabbath, and she was present after the service, that evening, when we had dinner with our extended family. She was present the next morning (Saturday) at services, as well as at the Kiddish to follow. She celebrated with me at my party that evening, and she was home Sunday morning for brunch with family and friends. Frankly, the entire weekend (Friday, May 6 to Sunday, May 8, 1997) was devoted to me, even though it was the weekend before the election. As a matter of fact, there wasn't even a debate on Friday, May 6, 1997, but had there been, she definitely would have missed it.
Larry David, hide behind your pseudonym because your remarks are ungrounded, unfair, and most of all uncalled for. I'm not afraid to reveal my identity and call you out for your childish banter and gossip. Ordinarily, I wouldn't even waste my time responding to comments like yours. But this time you crossed a line and indirectly brought me into this and I think it is my duty to dispell your myths and defend my mother. Why? Because Elaine Harris raised me with good values. I suggest you enroll in charm school, or at least hire a fact checker. |
Matt Foley
Citizen
Username: Mattfoley
Post Number: 269
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 12:45 am: |
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That has to smart just a little. Way to go Meredith. |
us2inFL
Citizen
Username: Us2innj
Post Number: 1330
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 6:56 am: |
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I thought this was a Curb Your Enthusiasm thread. Carry on- |
max
Citizen
Username: Max
Post Number: 152
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 8:21 am: |
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Good for you meredith and shame on you Larry David |
MHD
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 2535
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 9:15 am: |
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Funny how "Larry" hasn't been seen around here since the election. |
Pizzaz
Citizen
Username: Pizzaz
Post Number: 1966
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 9:38 am: |
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Mere: You are a pride and joy in your mom's eyes. Thanks for sharing the story of your Bat Mitzvah. We love you!!! 
And Grandpa Shifman, I like him a lot too.
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notehead
Supporter
Username: Notehead
Post Number: 2412
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 9:57 am: |
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Well, "Larry," what do you have to say for yourself?
It sounds to me like a sincere apology is in order. |
peteglider
Citizen
Username: Peteglider
Post Number: 1230
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 9:59 am: |
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I'm not sure what's more absurd - that a family event was made an issue -- or that it was made an issue some 9 YEARS after the fact.
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Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 6705
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 10:00 am: |
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us2inFL,
You know, this really could evolve into a good CYE episode when you think about it. |
Elaine Harris
Citizen
Username: Elaineharris
Post Number: 1
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 10:04 am: |
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Meri, I am very proud of you. Thank you for your heartfelt defense which should never have been made necessary. I always say, my children are my resume!! I could not understand why no one out there in this entire message board saw fit to challenge this Larry David. Aside from the fact that it wasn't true (which on this board is often irrelevant)what was the point? Was he (actually she) saying that I am not a good mother or that I am not a good Jew? Either way, was it an appropriate message on this board? Where were you, Moderator? Where were you, all the rest of the world? Now that this incident has shed light on the lack of integrity on this board and prodded me to speak out, I intend to address the rest of the lies and the liars and set the record straight. But not today, as I have priorities. Stay tuned. |
MHD
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 2538
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 10:11 am: |
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Welcome to MOL, Elaine! In the past you have been suspected by some of being virtually every "contrarian" poster that has ever appeared. Glad to see you finally here for real & we look forward to your insights. |
peteglider
Citizen
Username: Peteglider
Post Number: 1232
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 11:16 am: |
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Who is Larry David anyway? Why do his posts matter so much?
Let the matter die by not responding to "trolls" -- that's the internet way of handling nonsense.
(oh, and I agree, if the thread is false -- it should be removed)
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pan
Citizen
Username: Pan
Post Number: 104
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 9:48 pm: |
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Peteglider, don't pretend to be so naive. Larry David appeared on this board just before the last elections and disappeared after them. I wouldn't label his lies "trolls"; they are malicious political libels by the lackeys of the “status quo” candidates, attacking with lies the integrity of the campaign manager of John Pogany, one of the opposing candidates. Larry David is a cohort of the same unscrupulous and immoral individuals who published that libelous letter in the News-Record attacking that same candidate.
Larry David’s lies attacking Ms Harris’ family principles were an out and out dirty tactic to denigrate the reputation of an honorable citizen.
Meredith’s defense of her mother’s family devotion is an honorable act. Bravo Meredith
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bets
Supporter
Username: Bets
Post Number: 1895
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 10:01 pm: |
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quote:Larry David appeared on this board just before the last elections and disappeared after them. I wouldn't label his lies "trolls"; they are malicious political libels by the lackeys of the “status quo” candidates, attacking with lies the integrity of the campaign manager of John Pogany, one of the opposing candidates. Larry David is a cohort of the same unscrupulous and immoral individuals who published that libelous letter in the News-Record attacking that same candidate.
Kind of like what I predicted, eh?
http://www.southorangevillage.com/cgi-bin/show.cgi?tpc=129&post=375885#POST37588 5 |
peteglider
Citizen
Username: Peteglider
Post Number: 1238
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 11:42 pm: |
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ok -- so -- why now? no election going on anymore, is there?
/p |
bets
Supporter
Username: Bets
Post Number: 1896
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 10:35 am: |
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Just a reminder of the types of people that will pop up suddenly in April 2007 and begin attacking contributing citizens of this town. Maybe it'll by David Larry at that time, ay? |
Elaine Harris
Citizen
Username: Elaineharris
Post Number: 2
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 10:58 am: |
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To Pete Glider: So, in other words, if there is an election going on, it is ok to slander or defame innocent people, but when the election is over we should just shrug our shoulders and go away? Is that it? No accountabliity. No conscience. No ideology. No morals. Just say "never mind" and disappear. If I am not mistaken, and please correct me if I am wrong, you had a few comments to make about me, too. Didn't you? |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 1505
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 12:19 pm: |
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Elaine-
While the election process was going on and the lies about you, John and the others were being spread through posts on the board, letters to the newpaper and in mailings to some of the home owners in town, several people suggested taking legal action against the liars.
I am hoping you, John and the others who were lied about do this. By not doing so, there are people who will continue to believe the liars were speaking the truth. |
peteglider
Citizen
Username: Peteglider
Post Number: 1242
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 8:36 pm: |
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Ms. Harris --
Absolutely not! My question --
ok -- so -- why now? no election going on anymore, is there?
My question is not about you or others responding, its to ask why would Larry David post this now -- the election is done with! (what motive to bring this up at this time?)
We have crossed paths before. That, however, has no bearing on my posting on this thread.
IMO Larry David's post was wrong in many ways - to suggest inuendo -- to invoke a sacred/ family event on his behalf and to try and characterize you based on that -- is wrong.
Peter
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Pizzaz
Citizen
Username: Pizzaz
Post Number: 1979
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 8:49 pm: |
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Tell us some more, Pete. You don't shy from your opinions.
http://www.southorangevillage.com/cgi-bin/show.cgi?tpc=3133&post=373174#POST3731 74
What bearing did Ms. Harris' effort as my campaign manager have at odds with you?
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peteglider
Citizen
Username: Peteglider
Post Number: 1243
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 8:59 pm: |
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Pizzaz -- we crossed paths before. nothing at all to do with your campaign. -- Pete |
susan1014
Supporter
Username: Susan1014
Post Number: 741
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 9:02 pm: |
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Pete, "Larry David" posted this well before the election. I believe that Meredith only recently became aware of it through a third party (not myself...I don't know her or Elaine), and logged on to MOL, perhaps for the first time, to check what she had heard and correct a slander against her mother.
If yuo read carefully, the top of the thread makes it clear why Meredith started this thread now - she just found out. Old news to the rest of us, but I'm charmed to see Meredith step up to set this story straight. |
peteglider
Citizen
Username: Peteglider
Post Number: 1244
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 9:57 pm: |
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Susan -- thanks for clarifying what was right in front! -- didn't catch the time lag. now I get it. -- Pete |
mary032
Citizen
Username: Mary032
Post Number: 172
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 10:57 am: |
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peteglider says: "ok -- so -- why now? no election going on anymore, is there?"
Open your eyes Pete, there is an election going on. Just have a look at the strategic committee assignments for the newly elected trustees of line C. Senior Citizens, Local Assistance, Health & Welfare, Recreation and Cultural, Coalition on Race. These are committees of contact with specific groups of constituents that will give trustees Jennings and Moore-Abrams the means to boost the popularity of Art Taylor for 2007. I hope that you have noticed that both Art Taylor and Mark Rosner have already started campaigning for 2007.
So, yes, there is an election going on. The one of 2007. And unless we start getting ready for it now, we will have the same disastrous results we had this year.
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peteglider
Citizen
Username: Peteglider
Post Number: 1246
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 11:39 am: |
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Mary and others, I misunderstood the time-lag, and apologize if my comments as a result seemed to raise the bar on ths issue rather than questioning.
Dave -- is there a way to append or attach this thread to the original post of LD's? Then the "record" would be complete.
Pete |
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