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LibraryLady(ncjanow)
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Post Number: 2645
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 8:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

After 5 years and more than 2600 posts, I'm out of here as well.
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LibraryLady(ncjanow)
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Post Number: 2646
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 8:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, this is annoying. How do I delete my account?
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Just The Aunt
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Post Number: 1568
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 9:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LL Why are you leaving? I hope this is a mistake...
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LibraryLady(ncjanow)
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Post Number: 2647
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 9:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

JTA, you are, and have always been, a kind soul. But do YOU know how to delete a profile?
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Joan
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Post Number: 5847
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 9:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If your profile were to be deleted, all 2647 of your posts, many of which are extremely helpful to the rest of us, would disappear as well and I don't think you really want that to happen.

What you can do is go into edit profile and delete your responses to each of the questions therein, leaving each of the optional response fields blank. You could then fill in new responses as desired or continue to leave any or all of the optional questions unanswered.

As for whether or not additional posts are made under your present account, that is mainly a question of will power. If you don't think you have the will power but really want to stop posting, you could always change your password and not write the new password down. Then you could e-mail Dave and/or Jamie and make them promise not let you reset your password no matter what you tell them.

Of course, if you are really addicted, you could always create a new on-line identity (How are Dave and Jamie to know the new identitiy is you, especially if you use a library computer to set up the account?) and continue posting any way.

In the end, it is all up to you.
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Matt Foley
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Post Number: 314
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Narcissism anyone?

When I move on with my life & no longer decide to post on MOL, I promise to go away without any fanfare or woe is me drivel.

Libris-Stay with us or just fade away.
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gotcha
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 5-2005
Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Matt, when you do move on, soon I hope), in the real world or virtual one,make sure nobody knows, sneak out in the dead of night and leave no forwarding address. We'd all be better off.
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peteglider
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Post Number: 1275
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Library Lady, thanks for your contributions - for making me think and making me smile.

In this small community, I'm sure your path will cross with many of us.

Pete

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gozerbrown
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Surely this is some kind of publicity stunt on the part of LL. Say it ain't so! (Do you mean I actually have to go into the library to say hi now?)
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Just The Aunt
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Post Number: 1576
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LL I think after an hour or so, you can't delete your posts, uness you ask Dave or Jamie to.

Whatever caused you to want to leave, and I now have an idea what it might be, I hope you reconsider. I've always found your posts to be informative, level headed and friendly. I don't recall you ever being mean in your posts.

Whenever I've been in the library you've always been helpful! Even before I knew who you were and I called looking for my friend who was on the computers. (BTW I saw who got into the car that day! It was a kid visiting a friend at the apartments. GRRRR)

Hey, I'm not going anywhere and I've gotten involved in a few heated topics o MOL, much to the dismay of my sister and mom!

Please reconsider. I hope you have a nice 4th!
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fiche
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 1:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Library Lady:
Please reconsider. One of the reasons I re-introduced myself a few days ago was so that I could have the pleasure of your virtual company.
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Analog01
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Post Number: 139
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 1:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Perhaps the realization has hit LL that MOL is but a small isolated sample - a "nanocosm" - of life and opinion here in our two towns. It doesn't have nearly the influence or importance that most MOL'ers believes it does. And if you happen to post an opinion that is contrary to the accepted norm, you receive a virtual stoning, from one viewpoint or another. Sometimes both. Is it really worth the trouble?

You can even see here that LL has already been criticized for her actions. Everyone has an opinion. Small minds, small town.
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doulamomma
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 2:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've totally missed what caused you to feel this way (only reading certain areas regularly) - hope you will reconsider after a time away - I like knowing you are there & enjoy your posts, LibraryLady
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Pizzaz
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 3:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)




We hope you decide to do what pleases you.
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Just The Aunt
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Post Number: 1582
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 4:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Analog-
How has anyone criticized LL for her post about leaving? I think people are expressing they like her and would hope she stays. That, to me is a postive.
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gotcha
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Post Number: 38
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 6:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Right out of the box JTA>>>Mr. Foley's kind words....... Certainly expressing the opinion of many others
Matt Foley
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Post Number: 314
Registered: 6-2004


Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 10:27 am:

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Narcissism anyone?

When I move on with my life & no longer decide to post on MOL, I promise to go away without any fanfare or woe is me drivel.

Libris-Stay with us or just fade away.
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GlassJoe
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Post Number: 23
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 6:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A double MOL suicide. SODA & LIbrary Lady in one 24 hour span. Are the anti Catholic pogroms over?

BTW: Who will be the new self righteous antagonist now that Sody pop swallowed his own tongue?

-J.
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emmie
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Post Number: 542
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 6:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just wondering why.
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Just The Aunt
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Post Number: 1585
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

gotcha-
Thanks. I think I overlooked that one.

Matt- that was mean...
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Just The Aunt
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Post Number: 1586
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Glass-
SODA left? Was he banned or did he just leave?
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shestheone
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Post Number: 175
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

JTA--

I could be mistaken but my sense is that they decided to leave after LL was inappropriately criticized by Pizzaz. Soda repeated and (inho)respectively asked Pizzaz to apologize.
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GlassJoe
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Post Number: 24
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think she left due to the News-Recker printing her 20k raise over the next four years. 20k is a lot to receive for MOLing.

No need to scold me. I honestly just dispensed w/my library card. I'd rather be more of an illiterate moron than be in the company of a Catholic basher.
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Princess
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Post Number: 15
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Posted on Saturday, July 2, 2005 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i dont understand why there has to be a post about LL leaving.... if she didnt want peoples attention (positive and negative) then she just shouldve gone, not start a whole thread broadcasting it. and i feel that if it really is b/c of pizzaz's posts and remarks- well she needs to do a reality check, b/c i have read some "not so imformative, and helpful: comments from her.

happy trails
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Rastro
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Post Number: 1180
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Posted on Sunday, July 3, 2005 - 9:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Princess, when your 15 posts turn into 2600+, I'll consider your opinion more thoroughly. Same for you, GlassJoe. Amazing how so many short timers are judging someone based on a handful of her posts. Perhaps when you've ben here for a few years, you'll have some perspective.

Or are you just new identities of existing folks?
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GlassJoe
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Post Number: 25
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Posted on Sunday, July 3, 2005 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hate short timer bias.


Ras, I'm a long timer with a new and interesting persona.
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Ukealalio
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Post Number: 2294
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Sunday, July 3, 2005 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

New-Perhaps
Interesting-Not even close.

Your choice of course LL, but you will be missed. I'm sorry that so many jumped on the band wagon in criticizing you, apparantly because they were protecting someone who has been a strong supporter of the MOL community. I doubt that some even agreed with the accusation, they just got involved in this pack mentality.

We should remember, a bunch of rights don't delete a wrong.
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Joan
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Posted on Sunday, July 3, 2005 - 3:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nancy:

Whatever you decide, make sure it is the right decision for you. Also bear in mind that there is no pressure (except whatever you might inflict on yourself) to make a permanent decision either way.

You can always choose to sign on to MOL or not; read MOL or not; respond to something you read on MOL or not; introduce a new topic of conversation to MOL or not; attend future MOL face to face and other events or not.

The process of choice in this instance is an ongoing one. Personally, I hope you choose to keep the most of your options open by remaining an active part of the MOL virtual community and the real-life community which has become such an omnipresent extension of it.
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Sunday, July 3, 2005 - 5:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I couldn't figure out what happened to upset LL; then read the 'other' thread about SHU. For anyone who hasn't read it, please do. It turned very nasty and I don't blame LL for being upset. Hopefully, she will read this thread and see how many of us enjoy her postings. (I enjoy pizzas and the others too; but I don't agree with how the other thread got to the point it did).

Maybe if everyone takes a deep breath, apologizes to each other, then agree to disagree everything can get back to the sometimes normal dysFUNctional family we are! And even if you don't feel like apologizing, well, nevermind. that's your right too.

We've shown how though at times we don't agree, when push comes to shove we ban together when needed. Look how we come to Jamie and Dave's aid. Look at all the people who came out to support the fund raisers for David C. Look how someone is always willing to lend a hand to a poster asking for help.

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peteglider
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Posted on Sunday, July 3, 2005 - 7:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its really about civility.

Fresh out of graduate school I used to write research reports -- many times they were critical/had negative results.

My boss impressed upon me then, that I should never put in writing anything that I could not/would not say if I were sitting face to face with the people responsible.

(or at least put it in the way -- that I would say it if I were talking to them across a table).

I cannot imagine (at least I hope not!) -- that MANY of the posters here talk to the people around them the way they post!

Sure, I, too will sometimes respond hastily without much thought -- but I try not to.

Pete
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wendy
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Posted on Sunday, July 3, 2005 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I posted this in the original thread (SHU) but thought it belongs here too.

LL said she didn't like (ok she said intolerable - but we all know LL) the fact of a major institution with tentacles reaching far into SO imposing its doctrine on a student group. Three things then happened which in my opinion is why LL said goodbye. I do hope she says hello again real soon, btw.

One, Pizzaz said that she has been intolerant in the past and didn't come up with any examples of this.

Two, someone asked if she would be comfortable if a synagogue would be ok with Jesus on a cross in front of the ark. That was bizarre because I would bet more than even money that if Seton Hall were Shalom Hall - Ultra Orthadox - LL would have major issues with not allowing, for example, study groups composed of both men and woman, if that's where the Ultra Orthodox would take it.

Three, Dave opined that apologies are in order on both sides and called LL's views extremist.

Hope I summed it up ok (this from memory from last night and a few vodka and tonics in between) - hope it resolves real soon. I would surely miss LL and Soda in this community.



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shestheone
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Posted on Sunday, July 3, 2005 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

pizzaz didn't just say she has been intolerant in the past, oh no, he went further. he implied that she should not be allowed to express her personal views because she is an employee of the village of south orange. seems a bit 'extremist' to me. seems contrary to the first amendment to me.

he was out of line and should have apologized.
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galileo
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Posted on Sunday, July 3, 2005 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have always enjoyed reading LL's comments.We can't let her leave - she's an important part of MOL.


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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Monday, July 4, 2005 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think if we all let this die down LL might be back... At least I hope so.

What bothers me, and I like pizzaz, but as I supported who wanted to be an elected offical, and I hope will be one in 2007, he hasn't at least stated he doesn't agree with what SHU is doing; despite the fact SHU has the right under the law.

Again, I think what LL was trying to say, as a community that prides ourselves on bejng INCLUSIVE we should be concerned an institution in town, that says they want to build a better relationship between them and us, is not allowing (recognizing) a group -GLT that wants to promote UNDERSTANDING and ACCEPTANCE to exist with the same rights as the other groups on campus.

We don't see the temples, or organizations supporting the community residences (group homes) or other reglious institions as involved in the town as SHU, do we? That's what bothers me. That SHU seems to want so much from us.

Like I said, unfortunately SHU has every right to do what they're doing as far as the GLT group is concerned, I just don't undertsnd why more people aren't saying 'Hey, this isn't right; but it's allowed...'
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Matt Foley
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Posted on Monday, July 4, 2005 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK. I too admit that LL is one of my favs. I posted hastily the other morning. I woke up in a "mood" and did not fully comp. my words.

In all sincerity LL, I am sorry. I do not think in the "pack" & I do not dislike you. I was feeling large & I should have kept my sarcasm in check.

While I do not totally agree w/your method of exit(obviously) I think you should stay if you wish. I did not mean to perpetuate mass ill will nor did I want to have a large "pity party" in your honor.

Bottom line. Nancy- I like you & I enjoy your posts (mostly).

You will live to survive another MOL controversy. They occur & that is that.

obviously I should visit the library more. My spelling is horrid.
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Bob K
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Posted on Monday, July 4, 2005 - 5:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I tend to agree with LL about 80 percent of the time. Obviously on this subject while I agree with her distaste with the way The Hall handled this situation I don't agree with her conclusions. However, I will miss her chatty and often informative posts. Come back Nancy!!
















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Nonymous Reingold
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Posted on Monday, July 4, 2005 - 9:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please say it isn't so. It makes me very sad.
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Lucy
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Posted on Monday, July 4, 2005 - 9:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Drama of July... Let's put life in persective is there anything we in S.O. can do to help with the family of David Cobble? That is really sad. If they need donations,food can someone let the on line community know please?
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gotcha
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Posted on Monday, July 4, 2005 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Lucy, get your head out of the South Orange thread and hop over to "Please Help" for 5 minutes where there IS info about helping the family.

" number of people have asked, here and offline, how they can help the Cobles. As many of you may know this has been quite financially difficult for the Cobles, both because of expenses and because David's mother Alana had to stop working to care for David. Anyone who would like to help with the expenses of the funeral can send a donation to the Friends of David Coble Fund at www.davidcoblefund.org or P.O. Box 191, Maplewood, NJ 07040


Information filed with the Attorney General concerning this charitable solicitation may be obtained from the Attorney General of the State of New Jersey by calling (973) 504-6215. Registration does not imply endorsement.

Because The Friends of David Coble Fund is established for the benefit of a single individual, contributions are not tax deductible}"
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DeborahG
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Posted on Monday, July 4, 2005 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1. LL and Soda, please don't go! I enjoy your intelligence and your passion about issues large and small.

2. Pizzaz' personal attack on LL was way out of line imho. Appallingly so. And surprisingly so. I have met Pizzaz, like him, and would not have expected such churlish behavior.

Okay just my .02.
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MHD
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Posted on Monday, July 4, 2005 - 4:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1. LL, I rarely agree with you, but I hope you'll stick around.

2. Soda, bye bye.
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Lucy
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Posted on Monday, July 4, 2005 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gotcha calm down and thanks for the info the heat has some people so testy!
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SouthOrangeNanny
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Posted on Monday, July 4, 2005 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

bye soda..no love lost here
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Matt Foley
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Posted on Tuesday, July 5, 2005 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SODA has been voted off the island. I do hope he attempts a comeback. I will so enjoy trashing him for surviving his MOL suicide. goodnight pookie.

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