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Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 1784
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 8:29 pm: | 
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How can they do anything before they get the approval? I thought this was supposed to happen last week, but someone was sick? Dave?! |
cmontyburns
Citizen
Username: Cmontyburns
Post Number: 1085
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 10:35 am: |
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You could always throw yourself in front of the bulldozer, to try to stop this shocking miscarriage of justice.
Or you could just worry about your house, and let these people worry about theirs. |
Stevef
Citizen
Username: Stevef
Post Number: 73
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 2:59 pm: |
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I threw myself in front of a bulldozer once. Look at me now. |
Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 6949
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - 2:22 pm: |
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I've been notified that the McMansion variance hearing is scheduled for Aug 2 at 7pm at Village Hall; anyone who is concened about the project should attend and speak. |
Daniel M. Jacobs, PP, AICP
Supporter
Username: Conrail
Post Number: 47
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - 3:23 pm: |
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Will the applicants have to renotify nearby property owners?
- Daniel |
Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 6950
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - 4:27 pm: |
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I got the notice from a property owner, so I assume so. |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 1821
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - 7:37 pm: |
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Someone mentined the house was empty. I drove by today and it doean't look like anyone's living there. It appears as if they are under the impression the plans are a 'shoe-in.' If they weren't, why would they move out? |
compsy
Citizen
Username: Compsy
Post Number: 207
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 8:13 am: |
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Just saw this thread now for the first time. Wow. I understand the concern, and share it.
If you want to see a truly incomprehensible size incompatibility, try the (very-well-designed-and-built but ridiculously sited) humongous masterpiece that Kushner had built for his daughter in Livingston, just one block north of Route 10, one block west of Hillside. It is so out of proportion with the surrounding properties as to be simply mind-numbing.
I CANNOT imagine how the neighbors feel in this case, and how the town allowed it to happen...
I'll try a drive-by photo shooting and post it here.... |
Phenixrising
Citizen
Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 943
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 8:49 am: |
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Dave,
I heard through a "source of authority" in town, that those plans the owners are presenting will not go through without the redesigning to scale in proportion to the land.
Lets say, its going to be a HARD sell. 
Good luck on the meeting in August.
So sorry to hear about the cause of delay on this matter. My prayers to the family of the man in charge of holding this meeting.
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MHD
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 2647
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 3:07 pm: |
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Interesting discussion on "McMansions" and what to do about them at the BOT Meeting Monday night.
However, the most disturbing comment came from Arthur Taylor who said "There's a McMansion in my neighborhood that sticks out like a sore thumb...I don't how it got there"
Uh....hasn't Arthur Taylor been on the Planning Board for the past 6 years?? Maybe he should try staying awake next time. |
mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 2125
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 3:38 pm: |
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MHD: The house Art referred to as with the one above went before the board of adjustment. |
gotcha
Citizen
Username: Gotcha
Post Number: 63
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 3:47 pm: |
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Rosner, why do you bother answering M(more)H(higher)D(deeper)?
It only encourages him to post more stupid misinformation. |
mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 2126
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 4:05 pm: |
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Gotcha: Just in case others read his post and did not know, I felt I should offer a correction. |
MHD
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 2650
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 4:54 pm: |
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Glad to see I'm now a porn star according to "gotcha"
Mark - just curious...why would a new house not go before the Planning Board? |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 1892
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 9:49 pm: |
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Comp-
Is this the house on Surrey Lane? |
Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 9055
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 8:13 am: |
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MHD, if no variance is needed there is no need to go before the Planning Board in any juristiction I know about. Planning Boards, as discussed here previously, don't rule on esthetics, or lack there of. |
Daniel M. Jacobs, PP, AICP
Supporter
Username: Conrail
Post Number: 49
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 9:17 am: |
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Planning Boards don't generally review houses. If a developer is preparing a subdivision of property for a new development and requires a variance for that development (because of the size and shape of the "new" lots), this variance will be heard by the planning board (in New Jersey). Generally, the planning board sets general policy, not specifics. It develops and adopts the towns master plan: how much open space is needed, how much affordable housing, how much commercial space, etc. Based on this master plan, the village trustees adopt a zoning ordinance to attempt to achieve the goals of the master plan. The zoning ordinance can be challenged by property owners in court if it is not "connected" to achieving the goals of the plan -- but this connection is nebulous. Moreover this ordinance needs to be flexible. So the Board of Adjustment permits variances (i.e. exceptions) to the zoning ordinance for individual property owners as long the variances won't undermine the plan and enforcement would cause a financial harm to the owner -- this too, is a bit nebulous. In any case, it would be very rare for the planning board to review any particular private building project. |
mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 2131
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 12:48 pm: |
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Daniel Jacobs: Well stated and thanks.
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Daniel M. Jacobs, PP, AICP
Supporter
Username: Conrail
Post Number: 50
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 9:40 pm: |
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M. Rosner: Thank you. It is my profession. |
MHD
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 2654
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 10:55 pm: |
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Thanks for the clarification.
So, is the only reason Pulte went before the Planning Board for the Quarry is because they wanted a variance to reduce the buffer around the property? |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 1360
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2005 - 11:19 pm: |
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MHD, since the quarry was not residential prior to construction, I'd guess that Pulte had to do before the planning board to get approval for the subdivision of the land into individual lots. |
Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 9069
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 29, 2005 - 9:56 am: |
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Daniel, thanks for the information. For some reason I can never keep the duties of Planning Boards and BOAs straight.
Mark, get that boy for the Planning Board!!! |
MHD
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 2655
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 29, 2005 - 10:02 am: |
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Rastro,
I actually believe it was already zoned residential prior to construction...however, your point about subdividing may be accurate. |
mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 2133
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, July 29, 2005 - 10:06 am: |
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Planning Board appointments are solely up to the VP. |
jayjay
Citizen
Username: Jayjayp
Post Number: 111
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 29, 2005 - 10:48 am: |
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I didn't know there was a VP. Who is that? |
Parkingsux
Citizen
Username: Parkingsux
Post Number: 52
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 29, 2005 - 10:49 am: |
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Are there any new appointments since the election? Who are they and do they have professional planning and zoning credentials? |
Parkingsux
Citizen
Username: Parkingsux
Post Number: 55
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 29, 2005 - 11:13 am: |
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Do you know, Sheena? |
Parkingsux
Citizen
Username: Parkingsux
Post Number: 60
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 29, 2005 - 4:13 pm: |
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Did'ja find out?  |
jayjay
Citizen
Username: Jayjayp
Post Number: 113
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 29, 2005 - 10:23 pm: |
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I forgot that here VP means Village President. I was thinking vice president. |
Daniel M. Jacobs, PP, AICP
Supporter
Username: Conrail
Post Number: 52
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 - 3:05 pm: |
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Just a reminder that I think the BoA hearing on the variances for the house on Meadowbrook (see above) will be held tonight at Village Hall at 7 PM. Please advise, if I am wrong. |
Daniel M. Jacobs, PP, AICP
Supporter
Username: Conrail
Post Number: 53
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, August 4, 2005 - 10:16 pm: |
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The application was held over until the next meeting of the BoA in September. |
Sheena Collum SHU
Citizen
Username: Sheena_collum
Post Number: 339
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Monday, August 8, 2005 - 12:07 am: |
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Just a little bump here:
I believe that McMansions will be discussed at the next BOT meeting (as in today) by Planning & Zoning.
The agenda is yet to be posted but I believe it's on there...
Everyone go and be loud |
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