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gotcha
Citizen
Username: Gotcha
Post Number: 45
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 7, 2005 - 11:50 am: |     |
A burglary was reported by an employee of Bunny's on South Orange Avenue. The investigation began June 27th at 9:07 a.m. ..The Bandit stole $200 in cash and 12 bottles of wine.The owner siad he didn't want an investigation and asked the police to leave.
What's up with that????? |
SouthOrangeNanny
Citizen
Username: Sonanny
Post Number: 58
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 7, 2005 - 11:54 am: | |
shut up gotcha... |
User58
Citizen
Username: User58
Post Number: 270
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 7, 2005 - 11:55 am: | |
Pizzaz what happened????? |
peteglider
Citizen
Username: Peteglider
Post Number: 1285
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 7, 2005 - 11:56 am: | |
maybe they were caught on the MOL "Bunny's Cam"
/p |
Old and Gray
Citizen
Username: Pastmyprime
Post Number: 153
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 7, 2005 - 11:57 am: | |
Maybe he's got a problem with the police department...it must be because he likes to block the street outside of the bar with a giant SUV???
Honestly, I know the town forced you out of your spot, but do you have to block access out of the lot? |
User58
Citizen
Username: User58
Post Number: 271
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 7, 2005 - 12:02 pm: | |
How do you cary out 12 bottles of Wine????
Pizzaz did you really not want an investigation???? Is this person walking our town??????????????????? |
Old and Gray
Citizen
Username: Pastmyprime
Post Number: 155
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 7, 2005 - 12:06 pm: | |
Is this person an employee? |
gotcha
Citizen
Username: Gotcha
Post Number: 47
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 7, 2005 - 12:06 pm: | |
NannyDear, what's your problem with me posting soemthing from the town's Police blotter? Where YOU involved in the incident?? And telling someone to shut up is extremely rude. Hope you aren't teaching your young charges to talk like that? Who's your boss? |
User58
Citizen
Username: User58
Post Number: 272
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 7, 2005 - 12:09 pm: | |
I think the expression SHUT UP is used like you are kidding or Oh my! |
Matt Foley
Citizen
Username: Mattfoley
Post Number: 328
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 7, 2005 - 12:17 pm: | |
If the owner asked the police to not get involved then that rag of a newspaper should have kept it out of their issue. The News Record surpresses/distorts enough info. that they should have respected the wishes of the business. Since when is the NR "The Town Tatler".
what a sh*tty thing to do.
Re-cancel my subscription. |
SouthOrangeNanny
Citizen
Username: Sonanny
Post Number: 59
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 7, 2005 - 12:37 pm: | |
gotcha ya gonna call the sors and tell them i'm being mean to u again? |
gotcha
Citizen
Username: Gotcha
Post Number: 48
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 7, 2005 - 12:39 pm: | |
User, looks like you were wrong. Nasty one, eh? Glad she isn't raising my children |
User58
Citizen
Username: User58
Post Number: 273
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 7, 2005 - 12:40 pm: | |
Matt-foley since when does a publication respect anyone HELLO!!!!!!! |
singlemalt
Supporter
Username: Singlemalt
Post Number: 1097
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 7, 2005 - 12:48 pm: | |
Hopefully the loss will be covered by their LL insurance. |
peteglider
Citizen
Username: Peteglider
Post Number: 1286
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 7, 2005 - 12:55 pm: | |
Police activity (unless family/domestic) is public record. No reason not to report in the blotter or other places.
I would think in quite a number of cases there is a choice to not prosecute, for whatever reason.
Doesn't change the fact that something happened and the police were involved.
/p |
cmontyburns
Citizen
Username: Cmontyburns
Post Number: 1043
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 7, 2005 - 4:20 pm: | |
Any more details on what happened here? |
Erin Cartman
Citizen
Username: Carnac
Post Number: 4
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 2:53 pm: | |
Here is the actual article.... Does not sound like an employee but still... How do you "get away" with all that wine?
• A burglary was reported by an employee at Bunny's on South Orange Avenue. The investigation began June 27 at 9:07 a.m. Police believe the suspect used a ladder to gain entry into the second-floor window, then left through a back door. The bandit stole $200 in cash and 12 bottles of wine. The owner said he didn't want an investigation and asked the police to leave.
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Brett
Citizen
Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 1810
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 2:57 pm: | |
You pick up a case of wine. Not that hard really. |
Erin Cartman
Citizen
Username: Carnac
Post Number: 5
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 5:53 pm: | |
Well true... But, if I was going to break into a place and carry out something that heavy it certainly would not have been a case of wine!  |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 1702
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 12:55 pm: | |
Pete
While I agree with you about police activity, it seems where the Snooze Wrecked is concerned, lots of times things that happen in town don't make the police blotter. I think they pick and choose what gets in and what doesn't. Considering the Snoozed Wrecked didn't endorsed Joh for BOT, I'm not surprised they'd include what happened as a way to maybe embarass him.
(See you at the pool!) |
The Man
Citizen
Username: Bumboklaat
Post Number: 4
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 3:24 pm: | |
I can understand why a newspaper would report on a burglary at a local business as a warning that such criminal activity is occurring in our town. But it is absolutley ridiculous that sensitive information like how the burglars entered the establishment and what they stole is included in the report. How would any homeowner feel about seeing a report in the paper about how their property has been broken into with a roadmap laid out about how it was done?
I AM THE MAN -- SHOW SOME RESPECT |
NORA
Citizen
Username: Norav
Post Number: 74
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 3:31 pm: | |
I think the more important thing is why did the owner ask the police not to investigate and then ask them to leave after being called.
Why even bother calling the police in the first case? |
Mayor McCheese
Supporter
Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 397
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 3:53 pm: | |
NORA,
I think the more important thing is that a business on SO ave was robbed, and the money and goods were stolen.
Call me crazy, but I feel bad for them.
I know that there have been several robberies or attempted robberies of SO ave businesses in recent months. If people think there are too many vacant storefronts now, just wait. |
Erin Cartman
Citizen
Username: Carnac
Post Number: 6
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 4:38 pm: | |
Mayor....
Perhaps things would be better if the "business" owners let the police investigate?  |
gotcha
Citizen
Username: Gotcha
Post Number: 54
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 5:21 pm: | |
Preventing the police from fully investigating and perhaps capturing the "perps"< opens up other businesses in the community to attack from the same scumbags. Nice looking out for your fellow store owners, Piz! |
Mayor McCheese
Supporter
Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 401
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 6:00 pm: | |
OK, then where in the News Record did we read about robberies to Lot 15, Bagels Abroad, and Blue Moon Dinner?
And what about the smoke shop? There was an attempt to break in there.
Gotcha: Are these business owners looking out? |
gotcha
Citizen
Username: Gotcha
Post Number: 56
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 6:03 pm: | |
By not allowing the police to INVESTIGATE, Bunnie's did not help the police catch the crooks. That allowed the crooks, perhaps, to continue in their wicked ways and attack the other merchants you mentioned.Not talking about reporting the crime, talking about burying it. |
Mayor McCheese
Supporter
Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 402
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 6:08 pm: | |
Listen gotcha,
I'm just saying have some sympathy. This business just got robbed, and you are complaining. Can't you just feel bad for them. |
gotcha
Citizen
Username: Gotcha
Post Number: 57
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 6:11 pm: | |
They'd deserve more sympathy if they had cooperated with the investigators. Very suspicious otherwise. |
Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 6848
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 6:11 pm: | |
I've never seen a case of blame the victim with such clarity before. |
Erin Cartman
Citizen
Username: Carnac
Post Number: 7
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 6:18 pm: | |
As the robbery was not investigated nor was it to be reported -- except for the fact police are required to file paper work for every call -- there is technically no official victim....And I think that is the point of gotcha's posts....
Just my two cents... |
Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 6849
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 6:40 pm: | |
DATELINE:
SOUTH ORANGE
An unreported report of a victimless crime reported today led to a report on a local message board, whereupon without any facts whatsoever, various and sundry psuedonymous person or persons maintained that the owner of an establishment did not cooperate in the investigation of said unreported report despite its being reported in the local paper. Pictures at 11. |
bets
Supporter
Username: Bets
Post Number: 2010
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 6:43 pm: | |
Erin, that is incorrect. I had to dial 9-1-1 once, and I declined to have an arrest made. The only "record" that 4 police officers responded is in the daily call log, which I know the NR does not review. |
susan1014
Supporter
Username: Susan1014
Post Number: 801
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 8:26 pm: | |
Clearly the NR is biased in its treatment of anything regarding John Pogany. The printing of attack ads, the editorials and the very strange article about the pre-election mass purchases of all the newsstand copies show that. This article is only one in a pattern by an unprofessional and poorly written paper. If it had been any other store, I suspect that the NR would have said "a restaurant on S. Orange Ave."
Even having said that though, I'm always saddened to hear of someone who calls the police about a crime and then chooses not to let them investigate it (IF the NR is being accurate). |
susan1014
Supporter
Username: Susan1014
Post Number: 802
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 8:28 pm: | |
To clarify, I'm referring to not investigating a crime such as theft, not necessarily to the sort of situation that Bets describes. |
Old and Gray
Citizen
Username: Pastmyprime
Post Number: 161
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 9:52 pm: | |
Mayor: Robberies...thats a lot of robberies? Did you mean burglaries? |
bets
Supporter
Username: Bets
Post Number: 2012
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 10:05 pm: | |
I don't know the circumstances of the burglary or what happpened (I was away), but the fact that gotcha posted it here truly reveals his malignancy on this board. I don't know whether he's SS or EM or Who Shot John; I do think he's a bitter, sad, obsessed human being who needs professional help to turn his pursuits towards more positive activities.
What a disappointment to get home looking forward to catching up on town news, and finding all of this negativity against the Poganys. It is none of our business what they plan to do with their newly acquired property. John is allowed to defend his business based on current state laws. And frankly, I can see why he may be feeling a bit prickly after the blatant, unwarranted attacks against him and his family (and business!) by sitting Trustees during the last election.
That's what leads me to believe whomever posted that gotcha may well be one of those former trustees. Whatever.
Gotcha, have fun at the Wedding of the Century this weekend! At least we'll have Saturday off from you!
-bets |
Erin Cartman
Citizen
Username: Carnac
Post Number: 8
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 10:49 am: | |
Bets-
I think a report MUST be filed if an officer finds evidence of property being taken. Otherwise you are correct, it would just be in the log. But, I could be wrong....
But, I am also interested to know what other places on the Ave have had robberies/burlaries... I have not heard of any others...... (Or at least anything that was as clear cut a break in as this one.) |
LazyDog
Citizen
Username: Lazydog
Post Number: 56
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 6:20 pm: | |
If a business or residential owner reports a crime, they have the legal right to request of law enforcement that they do not wish to have the matter taken further, unless, as determined by the authorities, that said crime is part of an ongoing investigation or that it endangers the general public. Requesting to have a reported crime not investigated should not be assumed to have an ulterir motive. |
mem
Citizen
Username: Mem
Post Number: 5159
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 8:04 pm: | |
All right, I'll fess up already. It was me. Hank Zona's wine cellar has a new padlock I haven't cracked yet and my friends were getting impatient. When John and Leslie realized who I was they sent the cops home and let me go. It's the least they could do considering I've been spending other people's money at Bunnies since I was 16 years old.
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AlleyGater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 563
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 12:28 pm: | |
Bets, I think that is not true. I saw the URL posted by someone to the police blotter in another thread. It caught my eye about the break in at Bunny's and then the decision to not press charges. That is odd. I'm sorry. It just is. I made note of it in the other thread and I MOST CERTAINLY am not or have I ever been a SO trustee or have anything to do with local politics. I on the other hand don't eat at Bunny's as often as you and Dave, nor have I ever met John (knowingly at least) so I don't have any invested interest in this topic like you guys do. |
Pizzaz
Supporter
Username: Pizzaz
Post Number: 2077
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 1:04 pm: | |
Last night, while walking up to Dunkin Donuts, at approximately 10:45pm, to purchase my favorite morning ground coffee, I was witness to a theft from said premises. A young black male, approximate age early twenties, was seen walking quickly down Sloan Street with his loot. The manager, as I approached the store, came running out of the building yelling "he stole coffee". He proceeded to flag down a passing patrol on SO Ave., who took pursuit of the individual. The incidences in the village, I believe, is occuring by one particular perp. The number of recent occurrences is alarming, but with increased surveillance and security measures he will be caught. |
Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 6867
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 1:32 pm: | |
The Beverage Thief of South Orange strikes again. |
Old and Gray
Citizen
Username: Pastmyprime
Post Number: 168
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 1:38 pm: | |
Lazydog...you don't have the right to tell the police you don't want an investigation if you report a crime, expecially a burglary which is consdered somewhat serious...I think OJ would have tried that after allegedly murdering his wife and Ron Goldman. |
Erin Cartman
Citizen
Username: Carnac
Post Number: 9
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 3:24 pm: | |
Pizzaz --
Not to beat a dead horse but if you believe it is just one person then why not allow the police to investigate? The more crimes they can pin on this guy the longer he will be behind bars where he belongs.
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Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 6869
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 3:32 pm: | |
I think the police know the facts. "Investigation" is a technical term that would only be required to file an insurance claim. Not sure if I'd want to go through the hassle for $200 especially if there's a deductable. |
Erin Cartman
Citizen
Username: Carnac
Post Number: 10
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 3:40 pm: | |
Well unless those 12 bottles of wine were worth some real money... But, can this perp be charged with this crime if there was not an offical investigation? |
The Man
Citizen
Username: Bumboklaat
Post Number: 7
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 4:01 pm: | |
Mem that was just too funny !!!! |
Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 6873
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 4:11 pm: | |
Erin,
Do you have the wine? I mean how else would you know its value? |
Erin Cartman
Citizen
Username: Carnac
Post Number: 12
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 4:34 pm: | |
Ummmmm not anymore...
But, let's just say Bunny's carries only the best wine! 
Which explains why I needed the coffee too!
Just upset that Pizzaz and the DD manager thought I was a man!  |
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