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jayjay
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Username: Jayjayp

Post Number: 146
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How about doing a cost analysis comparing the cost of buying the land and building and running a parking deck vs. running an on-demand jitney service?
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Sheena Collum SHU
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Username: Sheena_collum

Post Number: 370
Registered: 4-2005


Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 3:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Agree on most part but it's hard to do a cost analysis on the environmental benefits of the Jitney.
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Pdg
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Username: Pdg

Post Number: 143
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 8:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's actually impossible to do a cost analysis without an actual parcel of LAND available for purchase and at a known price.
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susan1014
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Username: Susan1014

Post Number: 926
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 9:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And an understanding of how an on-demand jitney would work when 25 people get off the train at the same time, wanting transit home!
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jayjay
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Username: Jayjayp

Post Number: 147
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Susan-
Maybe it means having more than one jitney. There are towns who are providing on demand transport for their residents. They have a dispatcher and use global positioning technology to send the jitney where's it needed.

All I'm saying is that maybe there is an alternative to spending millions of dollars on a parking deck which will only accommodate a finite number of cars, and which will have costs associated with maintenance as well.
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mrosner
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Username: Mrosner

Post Number: 2166
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jayjay: Could you let me know of a town that has the service?
thanks
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Pdg
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Username: Pdg

Post Number: 148
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds more like a taxi than a jitney...
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susan1014
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Username: Susan1014

Post Number: 927
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the model works, I'm happy to consider it...it just seems to me that this is much trickier than on-demand senior transit, because the need comes in short, intense bursts, but extends over a longer range of hours.

In addition, probably needs a late service coverage to get people who occasionally work late out of their cars...if you take the 10:40 PM train home a few times a month, you need to know that you are going to have a way back to the house, and you can't count on our local taxis for that. In the absence of that, we'll hold on to our resident pass until we move out of town or retire!

I'd be eager to hear how other towns make it work. If the numbers work, it could be a great addition. If they don't, we still need more resident lots. Two year wait lists(?) aren't good for the town.
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Stuart0628
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Username: Stuart0628

Post Number: 111
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Would it be cheaper to rent Segways to any resident on the wait list?

Call me crazy...
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jayjay
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Username: Jayjayp

Post Number: 150
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mr. Rosner-
Cape Cod has a public transportation plan to move people from cars to public transportation. Here is the link to a study they undertook which shows what they are trying to achieve and how they are attempting to do it. Some things are applicable to our town, some clearly are not. But it shows what having a plan can do. Take note of the concept of flexible routing and on demand rides. Its an example of many towns coming together to achieve mutually beneficial goals.
http://www.gocapecod.org/ccttf/ch4.pdf
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mrosner
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Username: Mrosner

Post Number: 2169
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When you said towns, I was hoping to see a town that would be easier to compare with our issues. That is a very comprehensive report which I will look at later.
thanks
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susan1014
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Username: Susan1014

Post Number: 928
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jayjay,

Not to be picky, but I just scanned the report (fun lunch hour reading?) and the only mention of on-demand services that I could see in the report was a discussion of existing social services programs for the elderly.

The concrete proposals were about adding specific transit routes, park and ride lots, improved bike paths, etc. All nice, but doesn't really help us assess the potential of on-demand services.

Thanks for the link.

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