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AntoninaKC
Citizen Username: Antoninakc
Post Number: 77 Registered: 5-2005

| Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 11:13 am: |
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SETON HALL UNIVERSITY Office of the President I write to inform you that L. Dennis Kozlowski’s name has been removed from the building and the library rotunda on our campus, which had borne it in honor of his contributions to the University. Motivated by his enduring affection for Seton Hall, Mr. Kozlowski requested removal of his name from University buildings in order to spare Seton Hall any further adverse attention or distraction from its educational mission. Respectful of Mr. Kozlowski’s wishes, I notified the Executive Committee of the University’s Board of Regents of his request, and the name was removed today. As the University prepares to celebrate its sesquicentennial in 2006, the former Kozlowski Hall has been renamed Jubilee Hall. Monsignor Robert Sheeran ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ sent out today 8/18/05 to the university community |
   
Joe Krause
Citizen Username: Wkrause3
Post Number: 11 Registered: 5-2005
| Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 11:24 am: |
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Thats a stupid move because all SHU had to do was name the building after the Late Pope John Paul II. The news would have loved it and it would show that SHU is a nice Catholic College in New Jersey. I think Seton Hall needs a new public relations and marketing department if they let this slip by them. SHU is in the middle of a capital campaign to renovate different parts of campus and to have the news spotlight on the hall would have got alumni excited. Excited alumni = checks coming in. What's everyone's thoughts on this? |
   
SO Refugee
Citizen Username: So_refugee
Post Number: 787 Registered: 2-2005

| Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 11:28 am: |
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Jubilee Hall sounds like it was named by someone at the Old Time Gospel Hour. Agree that it would have been easy and well accepted if named in honor of JP2. |
   
Pizzaz
Supporter Username: Pizzaz
Post Number: 2271 Registered: 11-2001

| Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 11:39 am: |
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ju·bi·lee ( P ) Pronunciation Key (jb-l, jb-l) n. 1. A specially celebrated anniversary, especially a 50th anniversary. The celebration of such an anniversary. 2. A season or an occasion of joyful celebration. Jubilation; rejoicing. often Jubilee Bible. 3. In the Hebrew Scriptures, a year of rest to be observed by the Israelites every 50th year, during which slaves were to be set free, alienated property restored to the former owners, and the lands left untilled. 4. Jubilee, Roman Catholic Church. A year during which plenary indulgence may be obtained by the performance of certain pious acts. The name is appropiate in recognition of a 150 year celebration of its founding. Although, I, too, would have preferred the naming after John Paul II or any number of saints.
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SO Refugee
Citizen Username: So_refugee
Post Number: 790 Registered: 2-2005

| Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 11:47 am: |
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Agreed that it's appropriate, it just sounds silly.
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The Oracle of MOL
Supporter Username: Oracle_of_mol
Post Number: 51 Registered: 2-2005

| Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 12:22 pm: |
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Mr. Pizzaz, you have provided some -- but certainly not all -- of the truth. Here is a bit more: In the state of Alabama, specifically Mobile Bay, there have for aeons been large pockets of water which simply lack sufficient oxygen to support most forms of aquatic life. These pockets tend to move randomly around in the Bay during summer months, and in so doing, may occasionally "push" healthier water (along with its resident species of sea life) in towards the shores of the Bay. This results in sections of water along the Bay's shoreline suddenly teeming with a bizarre and unexpected abundance of sea creatures. Fish and crustaceans of many types actually pile up upon each other at the shore, allowing alert Alabamians to simply snatch them up and scurry off to cook them, using large pots, pans, and various types of backyard grilling devices... These surprise offerings from The Deep are eagerly awaited and joyously celebrated by local shore-dwellers, and over past three centuries the phenomena has become known as a "Jubilee". Any connection between SHU, Mr. Kozlowski, and such caprices of Mother Nature are left to you mortals to make. Go in peace. --The Oracle of MOL |
   
susan1014
Supporter Username: Susan1014
Post Number: 931 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 12:45 pm: |
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No, from Seton Hall's perspective, it is brilliant. Rename it quickly, call it Jubilee Hall for a year or two, and then auction off the name to another major donor after the celebration is over. (now a great donor might give his/her money for the right to name it after JP2, rather than him/her self) |
   
AntoninaKC
Citizen Username: Antoninakc
Post Number: 78 Registered: 5-2005

| Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 1:09 pm: |
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and by the way, a special congrats to sheena for all the press she sought in her campaign to get the name change! |
   
Bob K
Supporter Username: Bobk
Post Number: 9193 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 1:14 pm: |
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I tend to agree with Susan. Jubilee will be a short term name, especially since the Hall is currently having a fund raising drive. Maybe Pizzaz Hall?  I also think Mr. Kozlowski did the right thing and showed a little class. I don't know if Brennan did the same thing or not when he was convicted. |
   
Brett Weir
Citizen Username: Brett_weir
Post Number: 842 Registered: 4-2004

| Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 1:59 pm: |
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"Jubilee Hall" sounds like a bad pre-school kid show on PBS. Like a bunch of Pirate muppets should come dancing out the door with letters of the alphabet. |
   
hariseldon
Citizen Username: Hariseldon
Post Number: 404 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 4:16 pm: |
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The new name will be Ken Lay Hall! |
   
Innisowen
Citizen Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 785 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 4:23 pm: |
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Could name it Lacrima Christi Hall or Auto da Fe Building, perhaps? |
   
Sheena Collum SHU
Citizen Username: Sheena_collum
Post Number: 387 Registered: 4-2005

| Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 5:38 pm: |
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It doesn't matter what the name sounds like - the meaning is what is important to our students. And Mr. Koz showed a lot of integrity to contact Monsignor Sheeran and request his name be removed so that it brings no more negative attention to our university. That in my book speaks volumes. Thanks AKC  |
   
South Orange Maven
Citizen Username: Somaven
Post Number: 5 Registered: 8-2005
| Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 7:05 pm: |
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Miss Sheena, Don't be naive. Don't you know that SHU contacted Mr. K> and demanded that he request that his name come off? I doubt he thought of it all by heslf. Heres a news article about the situation in general Print Seton Hall Removes Kozlowski's Name From Building (Update2) Aug. 18 (Bloomberg) -- Seton Hall University, a Catholic institution named for a saint, removed the name of Dennis Kozlowski, convicted felon and former chief executive of Tyco International Ltd., from a building on campus. The name was removed today at Kozlowski's request, Seton Hall spokesman Thomas White said in a telephone interview. The building has been renamed Jubilee Hall. Seton Hall, a school of 10,000 students in South Orange, New Jersey, has had at least three buildings named for convicted felons. Kozlowski, a 1968 Seton Hall graduate, faces as many as 30 years in prison after being convicted of larceny for looting Tyco of more than $150 million and defrauding shareholders. His name also came off a rotunda in the library, White said. ``Seton Hall is a place where faith matters, where personal responsibility and values are central to our academic mission, so it does come as a relief to many that it has been removed,'' White said. Students, faculty and business-ethics specialists said in interviews earlier this year that they were troubled by having the name of a felon on a school building. Diane Swanson, chairwoman of a business-ethics initiative at Kansas State University, said she was disappointed the name wasn't removed sooner. `Beacons of Morality' ``The turnaround demonstrates the need to hold universities responsible for being beacons of morality in communities,'' Swanson said today in an e-mail. Harvard University, Brown University and the University of Missouri are among schools that named buildings after benefactors who were later indicted or convicted. Some have decided to keep the names. Seton Hall was named for Elizabeth Ann Seton, the first U.S.-born saint. It once had a gym named after Robert E. Brennan, a 1965 Seton hall alumnus who was later convicted on money laundering. The board voted to remove Brennan's name in 2002. Brennan, 61, founded Colts Neck, New Jersey-based First Jersey Securities Inc. The school still has a library named for Frank Walsh Jr., a former Tyco board member who pleaded guilty to securities fraud in 2002. The school has no plans to remove Walsh's name, White said. Kozlowski's attorney, Stephen E. Kaufman, didn't immediately return calls for comment today. The six-story building formerly named for Kozlowski houses the school of business and the psychology department, among other departments. Graduate Matthew McCue, who as former editor of the Setonian school newspaper criticized Seton Hall for the building's name, called today's move ``a positive step for Seton Hall as the new school year opens.'' ``This is a chapter of Seton Hall's history that I think everyone is glad to see come to an end,'' McCue said in an e- mail.
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Innisowen
Citizen Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 788 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 10:14 pm: |
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Maybe Torquemada Tower or Inquisition Hall to commemorate some of the shining moments of ecclesiastical history...? |
   
Brett Weir
Citizen Username: Brett_weir
Post Number: 845 Registered: 4-2004

| Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 11:54 pm: |
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Or maybe "McCarrick Hall" to place it in the pantheon of all the other Arch Bishops-past (Bayley, McQuaid, Boland). |
   
Phenixrising
Citizen Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 992 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 8:16 am: |
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Sheena, I agree with SO Maven. Sounds like he had a little help in having his name removed. I'm sure someone from the Board of directors put in a call. I mean the man LOOTED Tyco of $150 mil, which probably helped in putting his name on Seton Hall property in the first place. But Congrats to you in putting the pressure on! |
   
AntoninaKC
Citizen Username: Antoninakc
Post Number: 80 Registered: 5-2005

| Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 10:29 am: |
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Maybe he is trying to make some good of his life now that hes facing a few decades in prison; or then again maybe the bad press was too much to take for SH. |
   
Pizzaz
Supporter Username: Pizzaz
Post Number: 2282 Registered: 11-2001

| Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 11:12 am: |
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Brett makes a good point. Cardinal McCarrick, the former Archbishop of Newark, would be an excellent choice. |
   
Innisowen
Citizen Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 794 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 11:27 am: |
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McCarrick's name, in all seriousness, would be a superb choice. |
   
Sheena Collum SHU
Citizen Username: Sheena_collum
Post Number: 389 Registered: 4-2005

| Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 1:24 pm: |
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As much as I'm sure people would like to believe that Mr. Kozlowski was strong-armed into asking his name be taken off... I don't believe he was. I think AKC has it correct. Mr. Kozlowski loved SHU regardless of his actions with Tyco and he understood the troubles our community was facing with all the negative media (original article from Bloomberg http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aViu1Vf.0HVA&refer=us. He made a good choice and I'm very happy with how this turned out. |