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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa

Post Number: 2176
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I’m looking for an addition to my map collection. I have basically collected maps of all 7 continents, a few world maps, and a few nautical maps, all 1700 – 1900. I’m looking for something new, and although I know most of the ways to get my hands on the maps, I’m looking for suggestions on what maps would be interesting.

At first I had set my sights on “The condition of His Majesty’s troops, and those of the rebels” (a British revolutionary war map of Boston) and then thought it would be fun to compare that side by side with the American version.

Well that put me off the deep end, I though of Civil war maps, maybe Gettysburg North and South Maps, or maps from 2 separate discoverers. What about the Romans and the Greeks, or A French map of the Louisiana territory vs. a US map of the same area?

So after mulling this over I realize that there is hardly a chance I could afford the maps that I’m looking for, and replications would have to do. But that opens up a whole new world of maps (pun intended), because there are thousands of replications.

What maps would you fine it interesting to compare?
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Oldstone
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Username: Rogers4317

Post Number: 578
Registered: 6-2004


Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

brett, this is not an answer to your question but related. where is a good place to buy old maps or replicas of old maps? i especially like 18th & 19th century maps of american and european cities, american states and counties.
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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa

Post Number: 2180
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This site is a great place to start.
http://pastpresentgallery.com/

They have a wide verity of what you’re looking for. I don’t get them framed here though; I find I can get it done cheaper locally.

I recently got this map http://store.pastpresentcorp.com/mit18hancola17.html

If there is a particular map that you want, I can help you find it.
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mem
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Username: Mem

Post Number: 5797
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.zazzle.com/collections/products/product/product.asp?cid=2380632507673 94080&product_id=228811576096575593&size=small&media=basic_poster_dye&print_widt h=20.5817&print_height=15&glazing=

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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa

Post Number: 2181
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if you search on the site I got the
"Maplewood, NJ Panoramic Map - 1910"
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doulamomma
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Username: Doulamomma

Post Number: 1095
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 1:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what about a really old map of Maplewood? There are houses from 1700's so I'm assuming there would be maps...
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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa

Post Number: 2182
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 1:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I didn’t really grow up in M/SO, so I probably wouldn’t get a map from there, the 1910 one was gift. I doubt I could find a antique map of Cream Ridge NJ
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Oldstone
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Username: Rogers4317

Post Number: 580
Registered: 6-2004


Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 1:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have that one already ! i got it on ebay.

thanks for the links, you guys...and sorry i hijacked your thread !
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Oldstone
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Username: Rogers4317

Post Number: 581
Registered: 6-2004


Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 1:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey, i gave that map as a gift. do i know you?
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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa

Post Number: 2183
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 1:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mom?
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Oldstone
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Username: Rogers4317

Post Number: 583
Registered: 6-2004


Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 1:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cute

no, not mom...although i have been called a mother______ before.
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mem
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Username: Mem

Post Number: 5799
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 1:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oldstone - I gave the NY map as a gift to my sister - could you be one of my six sisters?

PS - you're dog looks delicious!

:-)
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mem
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Username: Mem

Post Number: 5800
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 1:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Brett - Thanks for the search idea - I just ordered both the Maplewood and NY for myself (I didn't even check for Maplewood's - my house is there!)
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Oldstone
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Username: Rogers4317

Post Number: 584
Registered: 6-2004


Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 1:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes mem, i'm your long lost tranny sister. and keep your mouth off my dog !

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mem
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Username: Mem

Post Number: 5803
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 1:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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Hillsider
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Username: Hillsider

Post Number: 53
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 3:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very cool,

I collect maps too... I have a bunch of them (uncataloged, probably about 40-50) on Asia and India, the oldest from late 1600 to 1850s... I do have a folio (text + drawing) from Munster from 1590...

I probably will stick to this subject; I just can barely afford these and connot afford to generalize...

Lately (I hope my wife is not readin this), I have been looking at Atlases, these are not only good value (as you get a bunch of maps), but also give a complete picture of the world at that time... eBay is a close buddy of mine... :-)


Based on some basic research I have done, I would stay away from the Civil war maps, they are way too over priced (too manny wanna be grants & lees)... revolutionary war would be great and so would the first time US maps... i.e. first time arizona was mentioned in a map or the first time Texas was part of US etc... but they may get expensive...

Do you have a nice way of storing them? I have a bunch of archival art folders that are acid free etc... Some day when I have more money I may invest in a nice cherry Map Drawer...

Happy uncontested bidding...
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Arsenal
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Username: Arsenal

Post Number: 68
Registered: 8-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 4:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Brett-

I started off collecting city maps, 1400-1900 of all the places I lived. I then branched out to places my wife lived, my parents etc...It can go on for sometime depending on how large your family is. All framed and on the walls of the dinner room. Makes for great conversation during dinner parties.
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jolynn
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Username: Unixiscool

Post Number: 15
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 8:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like maps of any place that I have lived. I have one of NYC from 1872 that has the lunatic asylum on blackwells island, no bridges, and the elevated train. Then I have one of Hoboken from 1869 that shows it as mostly marshland.

I also like maps that show skewed information; California as an Island or Michigan all short and stubby.

We have one from the middle of WWII that has funky boarders and country names that were only used for a handful of years.

http://www.oldprintshop.com This place is in the city on Lexington Ave and has a bunch of cool stuff.
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 12620
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 8:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I collect NYC subway maps. I have some from about 1969 and after. I also have a subway map from a station wall from 1947.
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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa

Post Number: 2187
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 8:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

City maps are interesting; I wonder how many cities I would need. I need to list the ones I’ve lived in.

I don’t have enough to need a map drawer yet. When I bring home a new map, I put it in an oversized frame that hangs in the den, kinda like the Feature map. I spend hours with a magnifying glass checking the whole thing out. After a few weeks I get it framed (Acid free paper, UV glass) and hang it some place in the house.

I like the maps that have ridiculous locations for islands, like Hawaii being 1000 miles off. I also like maps where the cartographer just wings it. One map of Europe and Asia has lines, showing where things basically are but not exact. The Cossacks lived somewhere up here.

I never thought of subway maps Tom, are they common?



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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa

Post Number: 2188
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 8:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hillsider, How would you display / protect an atlas?
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Lizziecat
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Username: Lizziecat

Post Number: 1076
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 8:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Brett;

It depends upon the size, age and condition of the atlas. There is an excellent paper and book conservation firm--Ocker and Trapp, in Emerson, NJ--which will preserve your atlas. They will clean the pages and encapsulate each page in archival mylar. And they will preserve the covers and endpapers. When I worked at the New Jersey Historical Society they are the firm that we used for all of our large atlases--at least 20 of them. They aren't cheap, but they are good. We dealt with Mr. Ocker.
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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa

Post Number: 2189
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 8:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

holy cow! An Atles is out. $21,500

http://www.oldprintshop.com/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?action=browse&category_id=79
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 12623
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What do you mean by common? I got most of these by asking for them at the token booth. They're free. When an edition goes out of print, I suppose it becomes rare over time. You're welcome to look at my collection if you're interested. Maybe we could trade some. I don't collect for value. I just collect because I like to. I also keep most road maps that I use, even when they become obsolete. I've been doing that since the 70's. I think my oldest road map is from 1973. I have a few that say Esso (Exxon's old name).

The 1947 wall map of the subway is something special. My uncle gave it to me. It was sitting in his basement for many years, and he knew I'd like it. I don't know the story of how he got it, and my uncle is long dead.

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