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redY67
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 4955
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 12:51 pm: | 
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After I left my job I was expecting to get paid out for any vacation that was not used. Our vacation calendar is from January to December. I was just informed that since I quit at the beginning of the year, I get nothing. This doesn't ring right to me, any thoughts? |
BGS
Citizen
Username: Bgs
Post Number: 634
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 12:55 pm: |
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Does your company allow you to carry over unused vacation from year to year? and if so, how much unused vacation did you have for this year?
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greenetree
Supporter
Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 6787
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 12:56 pm: |
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I went thru this a few years ago. I don't know if things have changed, but, there is no legal obligation to pay unused vacation days. Is this 2005 or 2006 vacation that you were not paid for?
It doesn't matter, but I can't imagine that most employers wouldn't pro-rate vacation pay outs. |
redY67
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 4956
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 1:01 pm: |
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They did pay me for unused vaca for 2005. I was hoping to get my vaca for this year paid out, since I earned it. |
sportsnut
Citizen
Username: Sportsnut
Post Number: 2312
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 1:04 pm: |
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It sounds right because most companies now use the accrual method for "earning" vacations. In other words you earn vacation ratably throughout the year. If you get 12 days vacation a year you would earn one day a month so if you quit in January you get nothing. If you quit in July without taking any vacaton you would have earned 6 days and they should pay you for that.
In the good old days we used to get all of our vacation on January 1 so that if you quit on January 2nd you'd get paid for all three weeks vacation. |
Rob
Citizen
Username: Rob07040
Post Number: 42
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 1:05 pm: |
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Where I work, you earn vacation time as you go along. So you start the year with 0 days and by the end of the year, you've earned all your vacation time. That way, if you leave early (like you did), they have less exposure to pay for unused vacation time. |
LilLB
Citizen
Username: Lillb
Post Number: 1324
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 1:06 pm: |
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Yes, you are probably only entitled to be paid for the days you accrued at the time you left. You may be entitled to take 30 days that year while you're employed, but only will be paid for what you accrued at the time you left. I think it works that way in most places I know of. |
redY67
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 4957
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 1:07 pm: |
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Rob, that is how it is with my new job. The old one states in the Guidlines that vacation is renewed at the beginning of each year. That is why I was hoping they would be required to pay me, c'est la vie! |
blackcat
Citizen
Username: Blackcat
Post Number: 489
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 1:25 pm: |
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Also keep in mind that if you leave a position, rather than being laid off or terminated, it may affect if they are obligated to pay for unused vacation at all. |
Zet
Citizen
Username: Zet
Post Number: 7
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 2:34 pm: |
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My company has similar policy. If you leave voluntarily you're entitled to a pro-rated portion of vacation time and any carried over vacation time from the previous year. |
kss
Citizen
Username: Kss
Post Number: 119
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 2:37 pm: |
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We allocate vacation days at the beginning of the year. However, if someone leaves for whatever reason, we pay out based on amount accrued. If there is carryover from a prior year, obviously that would get paid out even if someone quit on 1/1 as it all had been "earned" at 12/31 of the prior year. |
Lucy Smith
Citizen
Username: Lucy123
Post Number: 95
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 4:15 pm: |
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At my old company, on the books they said that jan 1 you got 50% of your days. July 1 you got the 2nd 50%. Say you get 2 weeks for the year. On the books you get 1 week to use before july 1st. if you leave before july 1st and haven't used any of your days yet, you get the 1 week's pay out only. If your last day of work was say july 2 you would get all 2 weeks paid out.
The way it worked off the books was that the managers allowed you to take 100% of your vacation prior to july 1. The catch was if you happened to leave prior to July 1 and had already used 8 days of your 10 day vacation allotment...not only did you not get paid for the 2 days you didn't use (cuz they weren't earned yet)....you also had to pay BACK the COMPANY for the 3 days vacation you hadn't earned yet. a lot of people got burned that way...thankfully i wasn't one of them |
Rob
Citizen
Username: Rob07040
Post Number: 43
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 4:19 pm: |
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Lesson learned -- no one is giving away vacation pay for free  |
millie
Citizen
Username: Millie
Post Number: 151
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 4:45 pm: |
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If you have an Employee Handbook, it will be spelled out there. If not, sounds like you're out of luck. |
greenetree
Supporter
Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 6795
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 4:54 pm: |
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Many moons ago, when I still punched an actual clock, I left one job for another. I had 2 weeks vacation pay coming to me. Imagine my surprise when my final check for my last two weeks paid only 3 days.
It turns out that the standard number of sick days per year was 10, but I had 15 (as per my original, written job offer which someone obcvioulsy screwed up to my advantage). I used all my sick time each year, so they docked me the "extra" days I'd taken. When I questioned payroll, they insisted that no one got 15 days per year.
Imagine their surprise when I brought in a copy of my original offer and copies of every time card for the 4 years I was there. The woman I spoke to took one look at the mountain of paper and said "I'm not going thru all of those. We'll send you your check".
I no longer punch a clock, but I continue to keep copies of job offers and benefits. Ya never know.
Hey Rob! I've been thinking about you guys - we need to get together... |
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