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jab
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Post Number: 530
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 2:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My friend is looking at a house (not in M/SO) that has a small stream that runs next to and behind it. She said there is still space to run around out back and that the water is very shallow, but that there is a drop-off of a few feet before the water. She wants to know if this would be detrimental for resale, because some people could be concerned about children's safety. She said a child would really have to be face-down to drown and that any child who isn't old enough to know better would be supervised anyway, but the drop-off could be a concern. Any thoughts? Thanks.
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Eats Shoots & Leaves
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 2:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What is the stream like when there is a heavy rain after a snowy winter? Even small rivlets can become pretty rough for a short period at times. Might be worth asking neighbors about their experience with it.
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Bob K
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 2:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

.....and your friend should check to see if they are in a flood zone.

While I can see parents of small children having concerns, I think there are enough people who would love to have a stream in their yard to offset any young parents who would avoid the property for that reason.

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monster
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 3:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I used to live in an old Grist Mill in PA that had been converted into a house. It was built in 1749, and was a working mill until 1964, there were two creeks that bordered it, and one had a race off of it that ran under the house, this is what powered the waterwheel.
It was in a hundred year flood plain, never had a problem with water, until after we moved, then one of the storms brought the water up enough from the big creek on the far side of the property enough so that it flooded the basement.

looked something like this, well I was going to draw a picture but Google is your friend, click here for a couple of images of the mill, I was surprised to see that the pics are from when we were selling the mill, the for sale sign is on the side of the house, and one of the cars we had is in the drive, there's even an update on there I had emailed to the webmaster.
Hmmm, looks like it might have had some restoration done on it in 2002, might have to write these guys and ask them what they did,
http://www.restorenmore.com/about/#projects

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Handygirl
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 4:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mosquitoes?
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Joan
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 4:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Make sure the stream doesn't also flow under part of the house. An occassionally wet basement, such as many of us in SO/M get from time to time is one thing but a frequently flooded basement is something else entirely. Suggest that your friend try to see the house shortly after a significant rain fall or snow melt and examine the basement for signs of water damage or settling of the foundation.
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kmk
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 5:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a small stream on our property here in Maplewood.

I absolutely love it. No water problems at all. As a matter of fact during hurricane Floyd (remember that one?) the stream became huge and swollen but the water raced off of my property compared to my neighbors where is pooled and eroded their yards. A visible stream is far better than an invisible (below grade) one!

The house was marketed as having a "babbling brook" when we purchased it....it is very fairy tale like.

I have three kids and they knew what the rules were involving the water.
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Lizziecat
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 7:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We have a brook in a ravine below our house. When we moved here, we has 3 and 6 year olds, and there were--and still are dozens of children on our block. During storms the stream becomes a torrent. No one has ever drowned in it, except for a couple of deer. We love our brook. Our kids were made to understand that the brook could be dangerous during a heavy rain, and that if began to rain, they were to stay away from it.
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jab
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Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 8:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the responses. I read them to my friend. The basement has been finished for 20 years and is carpeted, so there do not appear to be water problems. She already knows that she will need flood insurance anyway. She especially appreciated the comments that children learn the rules.
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Oldstone
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 1:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

kmk, do you live in that really cute red house on jefferson? i love that house.
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monster
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 2:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that's what I was wondering oldstone, I met the woman who lives there at her garage sale this summer, I bought the poker chips, we had a nice talk about the house the water, etc....
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Oldstone
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 2:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it must be so peaceful and soothing to sit in that yard early on a weekend morning and listen to the birds and the babbling brook...i'm green with envy.
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Arsenal
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 4:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Give me the address and I'll tell you what flood zone you are in.
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kmk
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 4:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oldstone and Monster,

Nope, I am above Ridgewood and below Wyoming (in Maplewood) on a lovely cul-de-sac street. My house looks a lot like my avatar!

During the drought 3 summers ago the stream went almost silent. I literally felt like there had been a death or a dear friend had moved away.
The silence was so depressing. It's back to it's babbling self now - thank goodness.

Ready, set , go! See if you recognize it...
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greenetree
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 5:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That red house was on the house tour a few years back. I fell in love with it; it is as charming inside as out.
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monster
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 5:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've been to a sale on that cul-de-sac also, I've also gotten a nasty stare from someone that lives there when I used it to turn around once....
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Jersey Boy
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 8:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I was a kid my best friend had a brook behind his house. We spent hours (days!?) walking around totally unsupervised. We had "brook shoes" that we'd wear when we walked the brook after my buddy stepped on a giant piece of glass and I had to carry him home leaving a trail of blood.

Oh, they were good times. Tell your friends to buy the house with the brook. Just get some "brook shoe" for the kids.

J.B.

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