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Krista
Citizen
Username: Shortgrrrl
Post Number: 80
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 4:08 pm: | 
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ok...so i am relatively new to maplewood, and my husband and i are starting to look around at buying a house (we rent right now). what's the deal with the other side of springfield? why are the prices so different? it looks like a safe, nice area to me. but why does it get a bad rap? is it a mistake to purchase a home on those blocks? i hope i didn't just bring up a taboo subject, but i would love to hear from some of my potential future neighbors....
thanks!
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Lt. Columbo
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 9069
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 4:17 pm: |
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Who gave it a bad rap? |
gj1
Citizen
Username: Gj1
Post Number: 328
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 4:30 pm: |
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Hmmm...to which "other side of Springfield" are you referring?  |
Krista
Citizen
Username: Shortgrrrl
Post Number: 81
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 4:33 pm: |
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The cool side ;)
No, seriously, the side further away from town (which is why, I am guessing, the prices are lower?)
Lt Columbo: I won't name names, but I have definately gotten a bad vibe from a few people when I brought it up...
Anyone live there, love it? Live there, hate it? |
HOMMELL
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Username: Hommell
Post Number: 84
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 4:36 pm: |
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I assume you mean the Hilton area? I haven't spent much time there, but I'm sure others will chime in. |
Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13322
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 4:40 pm: |
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Crime is higher on the south side of Springfield Ave. And it's farther from the train station and Maplewood Village, but that may not matter. The good news is that it's an up and coming neighborhood, and the values may be rising faster. I would definitely consider living there if I were shopping. Now the area around Vermont St is starting to come up, with that new condo building going up. I'm quite optimistic. I agree that for the "bad" side of town, it sure does look good.
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Krista
Citizen
Username: Shortgrrrl
Post Number: 82
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 4:44 pm: |
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thanks for the input, tom.
hommell: i guess i do mean the hilton area. what streets are included in that nabe? i didn't even realize maplewood had names for the different neiborhoods...anyone want to offer me a tutorial on what/where they are? i am guessing blocks like lexington are the "hilton" area..what about menzel and jacoby? is that hilton as well, or something else... |
BGS
Citizen
Username: Bgs
Post Number: 829
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 5:08 pm: |
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There is a Hilton Neighborhood Association and it is a very cool organization. They have really banded the neighbors together and revitalized a majority of the Hilton area. That area will also have the new Police Station as a quasi-neighbor and I imagine that before too long, those house prices are going to move right on up.
Spsringfield Avenue is on the move and I think that that area is the next Maplewood destination...Krista, welcome to Maplewood and feel free to PL me if you want more info...have been here for many years...
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Alleygater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1508
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 5:18 pm: |
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We put in bids in the Hilton area. We had a specific amount of money that we didn't want to exceed and MOST of the stock of homes in that price range were in that area. It wasn't IDEAL, but we liked the town and kids (if they came) would be able to go to a great school so we were willing to compromise.
As fate/luck would turn out, we found a home that was in a quainter part of town (although our home isn't so quaint) that was still in our price range...which was ideal.
Not all of the homes over there are in as good shape as the rest of town so there isn't a contiguous nice look to the area. There is more of a hodge-podge of old and new homes and you're close to the Burger King (I'm sorry but that isn't a selling point in my book). That stretch of SA is sandwiched between Irvington and the Vauxhall section of Union neither of which are the best areas and there is more traffic there than in very many other areas of Maplewood. Also that stretch of SA isn't really the most attractive section of town. So even if the home you bought in the Hilton area was as nice as another home closer to the village...well the other home is closer to a more attractive part of town. |
HOMMELL
Citizen
Username: Hommell
Post Number: 87
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 5:24 pm: |
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I will be corrected if I am wrong (disclaimer) but I believe that Hilton is everything south of Springfield. Tuscan is everything north of Springfield but south of Valley. There is more, but this seems to be where you are focused.
Lexington is in the heart of Hilton.
I believe Menzel and Jacoby are in Hilton East (“Lightning Brook District”) and closer to Irvington. That said, there may be further incentive for purchasing in Hilton East:
http://twp.maplewood.nj.us/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC=%7B90191DAE-4C13-4118-BE67 -5823D9612467%7D
There is also a Redevelopment plan in the works over toward Menzel/Jacoby:
http://www.twp.maplewood.nj.us/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={4B06DA48-683B-4EF8-9A9F-6F5CF0F89B1B} |
growler
Citizen
Username: Growler
Post Number: 928
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 5:32 pm: |
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We have many friends that live in or near the Hilton section and I have never heard them have any complaints on where they live. A home is what you make of it. Not where it is located. Besides, you would be about 1/2 mile away from the Village. Not a bad walk. And with the way SA is looking, it's the next best place to move into. Then you can laugh when you house price increases in the next couple of years. When we bought our house, I wish we had been shown some of the houses there. But we were not because of the "other side of town" bullshite. You'll find a lot of that in our wee little town. Ignore it and the people that spew those words and go with what you can afford and like. |
Alleygater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1512
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 6:00 pm: |
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Well my point wasn't that we shunned the OTHER SIDE of SA, but rather that the home we got was nicer than everything else we could saw that we could afford. But growler, I think you are forgetting the all important real estate adage, "location, location, location".
I agree that Hilton is a great area. And I agree that I'd rather be in a bad area of Maplewood than a good area of A LOT of other towns. But I do think that while SA is DEFINITELY becoming more attactive it still has a long way to go. Of course homes in that area will go up in value as SA get's nicer, but how long might that improvement take? When will homeowners finally get this return on their investment? Also if SA get's nicer ALL of Maplewood's property values go up. I don't see the Hilton residents as the only people benefitting from these improvements. |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1856
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 6:46 pm: |
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i live in the hilton side of town. i love it. the price was right. my home has gained quite a bit in value since i moved in 2 years ago. i dont lock my doors and my neighbors couldnt be any nicer.
it was an incredibly greater value than alot of homes i looked at on the other side of springfield. |
Bob K
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Username: Bobk
Post Number: 11108
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 6:55 pm: |
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Since a tax revaluation several years ago the Hilton area has seen the highest appreciation in home values in Maplewood. While the area is heavily minority (something you have to be comfortable with), a study done by a former BOE member for the Community Coalition on Race and based on bank records indicates that the area is reintergrating, if that is a word, and I think that is a positive for the neighborhood and the Town as a whole.
Another area with generally lower prices is the area east of Boyden area. Ancedotal comments from a couple of MOL posters who live in the area (and whose opinions I respect) indicates that much the same is going on there.
Crime is always an interesting subject and there are two parts to it. First is actual crime, which the Township Police and the Township Committee say crime isn't higher in Hilton. However, the perception of crime is higher because of proximity to Irvington. |
Trent_Daddy
Citizen
Username: Tcedwards
Post Number: 189
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 6:58 pm: |
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Lock your doors. Don't be silly. You are not in the back woods of West Virgina. The bears around here know how to open doors. |
pmart
Citizen
Username: Pmart
Post Number: 160
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 8:34 pm: |
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The prices are lower/different because, for the most part, the homes and lot sizes are smaller than those in other sections of town. The taxes are also almost half of what is paid across the street (SA).
I've lived in the Hilton section of town for a little over 4 years now and am still very pleased with my decision to buy here. My neighbors are all very nice and everyone seems to take pride in their homes. (SIDE NOTE: Some of the Hilton houses are not much to look at from the outside but have some really neat features inside).
Regarding safety, IMO, Hilton is just as safe as some sections in South Orange or around MW's Clinton School (which is probably the next neighborhood up, price-wise, from Hilton). Unfortunately, it's the price you have to pay for living in Essex County. Everyone in town really should be mindful of their surroundings.
There are many different housing markets in Maplewood -- all of them contain palaces, fixer-uppers, cuckoo neighbors, and crime. Just be careful to not put yourselves into the position of being house poor. Buy furniture, go on vacations, put in a new kitchen-addition. Just watch out for the taxes; those will never go down.
If you're considering the Hilton section of town, I'd recommend that you people watch from Net Nomads on Springfield Avenue one of these Saturdays. You'll probably see lots of people from both sides of the street! |
Mummite
Citizen
Username: Mummite
Post Number: 226
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 9:14 pm: |
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I know 2 families in that area, one happy, one not. The first has great neigbors - the other has thoughtless, loud neighbors. Ofcourse, that could be the case anywhere in anytown. With the police station, upcoming Prospect/Springfield Ave shops a few blocks away and great new playground at Dehart park it still has a lot of potential.
Check out the house and try and suss the neighbors wherever you buy. Happy hunting! |
John
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Username: Jdm
Post Number: 26
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 9:22 pm: |
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Pmart's right. Lots and houses are smaller in our Hilton neighborhood, and of course we're closer to the light-industrial zone back on Boyden (not that I ever notice except when I drop off stuff at the recycling center or come home from the Parkway). Two good reasons for lower prices...and property taxes too. I'm amazed at how much they increase just by crossing SA. I also find the southern reaches of some of the streets that hit SA from the north not as nice as Hilton-area streets, for example.
Oh, and the prevailing winds seem to blow the BK odors northward. I hardly ever notice any smell and I'm two streets almost directly behind it.
Frankly, as a Brooklyn native, I like the greater density over here and the quick walk up to SA. Lots of kids around too, which is nice since I've got a couple. They can play outside all the time without any problems. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13336
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 7:37 am: |
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Yeah, some houses are really nice. I went to an estate sale on Lexington or so. The house was modest on the outside but impressive on the inside. Very nice builtin woodwork, reminiscent of the rest of Maplewood.
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kiggo
Citizen
Username: Kiggo
Post Number: 1
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 8:45 am: |
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I recently moved to the Hilton part of town. I think its great. My neighbors are nice and the homes on my street are very well maintained. While I would love to live in a larger home closer to the train what I have was a great deal and my zip code is still the same  |
Ond
Citizen
Username: Ond
Post Number: 97
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 9:36 am: |
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From growler: "Besides, you would be about 1/2 mile away from the Village. Not a bad walk"
Which "Village" are you referring to? It's at least a mile if not more to Maplewood Ave from most points "across Springfield". With that said, here are some very positive changes I've seen in the area over the past 6 years:
-DeHart Park (on Burnett Ave) is probably the nicest playground in Maplewood now + enrichment classes offered at the Rec Center (the Easter Egg Hunt is April 8th at 1pm)
-Farmer's Market: July - October at Indiana and Springfield (okay, that's been there longer than 6 years, but the parking lot / corner was refurbished)
- Wooden You Know Toys, Net Nomads, Organic Grocer, The Art Garden for Kids, Beaded Path, Stories in Motion, Burnett Barbeque, Yoga, near the intersection of Prospect and Springfield. Not to mention the new "Anny's" clothes and designer pillows, gifts, etc... Indiana at Springfield. Obviously I missed a few...
In other words, the "Avenue" will never have the charm or pedestrian feel of the "Village", but it's gained at least a few of the same amenities.
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Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13344
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 9:41 am: |
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Part of the charm of Maplewood Avenue is the narrowness and shortness of it. The curve helps, too. But I've seen charming streets in the "shape" of Springfield Ave. The potential is there, and the progress is, too.
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Smarty Jones
Citizen
Username: Birdstone
Post Number: 510
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 10:18 am: |
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In my perfect world, Springfield Avenue "sells-out" and brings all the shops we typically go to the mall to find....(Great national clothes stores, Department Stores, Home Retail shops, etc.). Kind of like Manhasset's Miracle Mile. Currently, the odds of that ever happening are at 1,000,000,000,000: 1, against. |
Ond
Citizen
Username: Ond
Post Number: 99
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 10:55 am: |
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My dream is a Trader Joe's at the "KFC" site.... |
Smarty Jones
Citizen
Username: Birdstone
Post Number: 511
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 11:58 am: |
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What is the KFC site? Do you mean the Kentucky Fried Chicken on border of Irvington and Newark? |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13347
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:00 pm: |
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The KFC site is where they were thinking of building a KFC. It got voted down. It's still a long-closed gas station where Yale St ends and meets Springfield Ave.
This is just like a Laurie Anderson song where she gives directions: "turn right where they're thinking about building a mall."
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Ond
Citizen
Username: Ond
Post Number: 100
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:03 pm: |
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My apologies for the dated reference... |
Smarty Jones
Citizen
Username: Birdstone
Post Number: 512
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:03 pm: |
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Are you kidding me? We VOTED NO to a Kfc closer to Maplewood? ARE WE NUTZ? HAS no-one here had a 2-piece and a biscuit, original recipe???
It's a darn good thing we prefer vacated gas stations to KFC's. I suppose we can perpetually hike up the taxes on the vacated Gas Station, and at least nobody will complain about it!
We're a ship lost at sea....with no rudder, and no oars..... |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13348
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:06 pm: |
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Please cool down. We realize this mistake and won't make this mistake again. At least we won't make precisely this mistake and will make new ones instead.
Dredging this up could be painful.
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BGS
Citizen
Username: Bgs
Post Number: 833
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:12 pm: |
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Smarty Jones-If you want good chicken and biscuits go to Church's further down on Springfield Avenue towards VauxHall. The plans that KFC brought to many town hall meetings were not what was envisioned as something that would benefit the Avenue. |
Smarty Jones
Citizen
Username: Birdstone
Post Number: 513
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:24 pm: |
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Hmmmmm....it's just going to be very very painful driving past that location now, on my weekly trip to the KFC in Newark/Irvington......sigh....one can dream. I wish I had never known that was ever on the table. Church's just ain't KFC. |
amandacat
Citizen
Username: Amandacat
Post Number: 1071
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:56 pm: |
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"Church's just ain't KFC."
Thank God! Church's fried chicken is greaseless and homemade with love. KFC is chemical chicken, all flavorizers and stabilizers and NO THANKS!!!
(Sorry, Smarty, but you've touched on a subject close to my heart . . .) |
Soparents
Citizen
Username: Soparents
Post Number: 88
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:57 pm: |
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Where is Church's??
My Father LOVES fried chicken etc, but I find the KFC to be the way amandacat describes it - we would be happy to give Church's a try..
Thanks |
SoOrLady
Citizen
Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 3177
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 1:05 pm: |
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It's in the Vauxhall section on Springfield Ave... just head down toward Home Depot - it's on the left. Great food, really nice family owned buisiness. Don't forget to order the peach cobbler! |
Soparents
Citizen
Username: Soparents
Post Number: 90
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 1:07 pm: |
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Thank you!!!!!! |
Smarty Jones
Citizen
Username: Birdstone
Post Number: 514
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 1:10 pm: |
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amandacat, Churches might be great for Sunday - Thursday....but you've gotta admit, sometimes Fridays was made for Flavorized, Chemicalized, and Stabilized Original Recipe CHix! When you get the urge......
What else is on the Churches menu?
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Taurus5208
Citizen
Username: Taurus5208
Post Number: 149
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 1:29 pm: |
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I just want to throw into the original topic of conversation that my parents have been living in the Hilton section for almost 20 years and like it a lot. Their house is now worth more than 10 times what they bought it for, they were able to make many improvements including putting an addition onto their house, and they will definitley make a killing when/if they decide to sell in the upcoming years. For them, buying on "the other side of Maplewood" was a great decision. |
BGS
Citizen
Username: Bgs
Post Number: 835
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 2:01 pm: |
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Smarty- ribs, fish, homemade potato salad and cole slaw, mac and cheese, greens, corned bread...They were reveiwed by Pete Genovese of the Ledger a couple of years ago-got great reviews. Now here is the deal, they cook your fish or chicken when you order it so it is fresh...not something that has been sitting under warming lamps..... |
Krista
Citizen
Username: Shortgrrrl
Post Number: 83
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 4:31 pm: |
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thanks to everyone for your advice/help/input...as for the kfc...yuck! if you ask me the best fried chicken in the area is at neicey's... |
Alleygater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1521
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 4:33 pm: |
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OK, I love Taco Bell, and I hate having to go all the way over to Morris Avenue whenever I am jonesin' for a late night burrito. Having said that, a KFC on SA would have been a very bad idea, just as a Taco Bell would have. If I had my druthers we would eliminate the Burger King and Poppa Johns too.
I would much rather see something in town that was a bit more wholesome and by that I don't only mean not nutritious and damaging to people, I also mean less garish and provides some charm to our town. Would you want a Pizza Hut in the Village? No. It would look horrible and be out of place.
Sure our town needs rateables but I think in the long run we would be shooting ourselves in the foot. Where do we want to go with SA? Ghetto strip mall like Irvington? Less ghetto strip mall like Vauxhall (which is where we were just a few years ago)? Uber Deluxe strip mall like Westfield? How about something in between that isn't too chi-chi, that isn't garish with stores that are actually useful and organic in our town. Stores that we actually want and will use that will be members of our town and give something back (other than just cheap, greasy food).
BTW, Churches looks sorta dumpy but the food is pretty tasty. We approve. |
greenetree
Supporter
Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 7109
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 7:42 pm: |
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If you recall, the anti-KFCers (who were mainly anti-commercial fast food folks) "won" by default when the corporation intending to build the KFC pulled out. After BK, Maplewood instituted regs outlawing "fast food" and the KFC folks had a plan to meet the criteria to build.
When KFC saw the plans for the bump-outs, they withdrew because they would not have sufficient parking lot access.
Sorry for the way-off-topic, but I felt a compulsion to tell the story.
Also, in terms of SA businesses and building up the Avenue, patronize the new health food store. They have very limited stock right now and need our help to grow. |
growler
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Username: Growler
Post Number: 929
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 8:31 pm: |
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I agree with GT - If you want to see the new businesses grow, then people need to shop. Not just say they will. The health food store is great. And the more we shop there, the more they grow.
And I really disagree with Krista about Neicey's. We've had the worst meals there the past few times and will never go back. Too bad Heart and Soul is not open more.... |
jersey Boy
Citizen
Username: Jersey_boy
Post Number: 411
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 9:48 pm: |
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I think this section of Maplewood is similar to some sections of South Orange in that Richard, Lester, and James Brown talked about bad elements "creeping in." Nice people buying houses in that area means good elements creeping into Newark, Orange, East Orange, Irvington, Springfield, and Union.
If you're moving from New York, there isn't anything there that you haven't seen. Buy in an affordable area and YOU may be improving it. The value of your house will go up with time. The "creeping" is going outward.
I hope.
J.B. |
Joan
Supporter
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 7193
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 7:46 am: |
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One reason prices may be lower there is because the lot sizes are smaller. The lots on the side of Springfield Avenue closer to the center of town are zoned R-7 or R-5. The houses in the area you are referring to (Hilton) are mostly zoned R-3. |
Ceidefields
Citizen
Username: Ceidefields
Post Number: 39
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 11:15 am: |
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We live in the Hilton area and the lot sizes ARE smaller but the taxes are also much lower ($4-6k range). If you're looking for a good value starter home, you can definitely find it here.
Some of the houses are built on double lots, which means they're the same size as the lots on the other side of the Avenue. In terms of housing stock, just like elsewhere in Maplewood, some of the houses are beautifully maintained and others are not. We lucked out with our neighbors - they're wonderful. All our kids play together and we happily mind each others kids for a few hours if someone needs to run errands. |
SLK Lives!
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1126
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, April 2, 2006 - 9:09 pm: |
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I am finally out of the MOL jail. Thanks Jamie!
My family also lives in Hilton-smaller houses, smaller lots, but lower taxes with access to the same schools and amentities as those paying three times a much.
From what I can tell, another reason for Hilton's image is because it is mor blue collar, but that is quickly changing....and no nothing is wrong being blue collar...
The train station is just under a mile away, but the jitney saves the day!
After one year we are very happy here. I would argue that if you are seeking the diversity that Maplewood brags about look no further than Hilton.
I just spoke to my realtor today. He just went into contract on two houses on my block both over 400k....even the snooty Burgdorff Realtors are finally taking notice....
Need I go on?
Krista, Hilton is fine. Depending on where you are moving from, if you are looking for down to earth people, friendly neighbors, decent schools and peace and quiet, look no further. The Hilton Association is the strongest of all in Maplewood, from the lips of the Mayor himself, among many others.
Whatever your choice, welcome...
-SLK |
wendy
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Username: Wendy
Post Number: 2242
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, April 2, 2006 - 9:18 pm: |
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Welcome back SLK. Don't know why you were banned but even when I bristle at your shtick, you're better than most with whom I disagree. |
jeffl
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Username: Jeffl
Post Number: 1633
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, April 2, 2006 - 10:06 pm: |
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Late to the discussion but...no one beats Judy's fried chicken at Church's. Family run business. Husband does the cooking. You must try it. It and they are the best. |
HOMMELL
Citizen
Username: Hommell
Post Number: 89
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 3, 2006 - 7:33 am: |
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We tried it on Saturday night and Church's is the best. |
SLK Lives!
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1128
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 3, 2006 - 7:42 am: |
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Thanks for the welcome Wendy!
My wife (a vegetarian) mentions Church to me (100% carnivore and proud) everytime we pass it...I really need to get there one of these days...
-SLK |
HOMMELL
Citizen
Username: Hommell
Post Number: 91
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 3, 2006 - 11:52 am: |
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SLK - make a point of it this week. You won't regret it. |
knak
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Username: Knak
Post Number: 145
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 3, 2006 - 12:05 pm: |
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fyi- Church's is closed on Sundays - part of the family-owned business +/-. We like their sweet potatoes as a cross between a vegetable and dessert.
(14 years East of Boyden, between Elmwood & Parker - our neighborhood doesn't really have a name but many people visit Milo Borden Park, commonly miscalled Boyden Park, hidden between Boyden/Parker/Orchard entrances, for soccer or baby swings) |
bella
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Username: Bella
Post Number: 568
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Monday, April 3, 2006 - 11:58 pm: |
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That whole section is the Hilton section. I'm pretty sure that it used to be considered a seperate entity - I have old magazines that are addressed to "Hilton, NJ". BTW, by saying "that section" I don't mean to imply anything negative; I lived there until I was in 5th grade in the house my great grandparents had built. (but it does break my heart when I see "our" house, the subsequent owners have ruined it.)
note to Tom - obviously, I'm not talking about your neighbors- they live in the house to which we moved when my parents sold the other house. sorry for the paranoid disclaimer - I just wanted to avoid offending anyone.) |
Strings
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Username: Blue_eyes
Post Number: 844
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 7:13 am: |
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bella, I'm not so sure about that. I grew up in "that side" of Maplewood, as did my mother, and I've never heard that it was called Hilton, NJ, but I suppose it could have been before she was born?
Anyway, I loved growing up there and am still very close with two of my childhood friends who grew up in that neighborhood as well. There are still a lot of families such as mine who have been living there there whole lives as well as new people moving in. My block hasn't really changed much in the past 6 or 7 years (at least) except for a year or so ago when a young couple bought the house a few down from my parents. It may not be as nice as other sections of Maplewood, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with it at all. |
bella
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Username: Bella
Post Number: 569
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 8:54 am: |
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I really doubt that mother would have been alive. The magazines that I have that use Hilton as the town name are from the very early 20's. I loved my house and neighborhood. Spring always reminds me of our house, we had tons of tulips and daffodils that my great grandmother had planted. |
bella
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Username: Bella
Post Number: 570
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 8:58 am: |
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oops, I meant "your mother" |
C Bataille
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Username: Nakaille
Post Number: 2519
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 4, 2006 - 9:30 am: |
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Well, I do have family who lived in "that" part of town when it was called Hilton. The house was just off Burnett. My great-aunt, now 93, vividly recalls that fact among many others. Mostly it was farmland. She recalls when Seth Boyden was a new school. She tagged along with her big brothers when she was only 3 and 4 (her mom was not well - perhaps the stress of birthing 10 kids??!!) They used to sneak into Olympic Park near the back of the Seth Boyden playground to hear John Philip Sousa's band. |
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