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SOSully
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Username: Sullymw
Post Number: 1124
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 10:23 am: |     |
The option to burn to an mp3 CD fails saying that the purchased songs are protected. I have a 2nd mp3 player that I use in my car and I'd like to put my purchased songs on that player too. I understand that it is legal to do so, but iTunes won't let me. There is an option to burn to an "Audio CD" but I'm not sure what that does. |
monster
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Username: Monster
Post Number: 1944
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 11:11 am: | |
You have to burn it as regular audio cd first, then rip back as an mp3. You will lose some quality, but try ripping it back at a higher bitrate, at least 192, maybe higher, and you really shouldn't notice a loss. |
Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider
Post Number: 12110
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 11:43 am: | |
That's a pretty laborious approach, and it "burns through" a lot of CD's which you would then discard. Look for an AAC to MP3 converter. I don't think there are any free ones, but if you're going to do this to lots of files, it could be worth the money.
Henceforth, what you should do is set up your itunes options to import music in mp3 format rather than AAC format. If you do it in high quality format, it will take up more space, but your ipod will play them fine.
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Bailey
Citizen
Username: Baileymac
Post Number: 154
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 1:16 pm: | |
I think this only applies to purchased music - so unless you have purchased a lot of music, it might not be too much of a problem to burn those as regular audio cd's, and them re-import them as mp3's.
You should be able to burn all your other imported music as mp3's. |
SOSully
Citizen
Username: Sullymw
Post Number: 1125
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 1:24 pm: | |
good point |
monster
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Username: Monster
Post Number: 1949
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 4:51 pm: | |
the only way at the present time to convert purchased music from the iTunes Music Store to another format is to do as I suggested.
These are files that end in "m4p", if it has the "p" it is protected, if it ends in "m4a" it isn't protected and can be converted to mp3 or other formats easily via iTunes.
Before iTunes 6 came out it was possible to strip the DRM protection from these protected music files using a program such as JHymn, the author of JHymn and a few other people are currently working on figuring out the new encryption and keys that Apple uses now, it just hasn't been done yet.
Keep an eye on this site for further news, http://www.hymn-project.org/jhymndoc/
At the present time if you still have not upgraded to iTunes 6, and are using iTunes 5.0.X then their are reports that the latest version of JHymn will still strip the DRM from purchased iTunes music, the trick is that you can't ever have even listened to music with iTunes 6, if you have then the keys used by Apple for the DRM encryption have been changed, and iTunes 5 will no longer work with your account, aaahhhhhh... so there is something else you can do....
Wipe any preferences and or registry entries for iTunes that is on your computer, both visible and invisible, get rid of iTunes 6, or use a different computer that hasn't had iTunes 6 on it, or wipe the drive and start over.
Then if you have a copy of iTunes 5 install it and set up a different account than the one you already have used (it's already tied to iTunes 6), and purchase your music via iTunes 5, than strip the DRM with JHymn.
If you don't have a copy of iTunes 5 you can download it here,
Windows: http://filehippo.com/download_itunes/?391
Mac & Windows: http://public.www.planetmirror.com/pub/apple/iTunes/
You might even have a copy on the disc that came with your iPod.
For more info on this and how you might help, check out the hymn-project forum here, http://www.hymn-project.org/forums/index.php
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AlleyGater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1143
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 6:49 pm: | |
After you burned your track to a cd can you convert the track into an MP3 using LOSSLESS compression and at least not lose any quality? |
monster
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Username: Monster
Post Number: 1954
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 7:11 pm: | |
you lose quality just burning it to the cd the first time |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 12119
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 7:26 pm: | |
How do you lose quality going from AAC to audio format CD? The latter isn't compressed.
"This is the only thing my signature says." |
AlleyGater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1145
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 7:52 pm: | |
Exactly. What Tom said. The most serious sound loss happened when they created the .mp4 file. |
monster
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Username: Monster
Post Number: 1960
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 11:23 am: | |
right, you are right, you don't lose quality in the conversion, I was just thinking of the loss that was already there since it was converted to a digital format in the first place, the loss will still be there when you convert back to say, an AIFF file.
It doesn't "fill in any blanks" for instance, you would not get back any resolution when you convert high res 32 bit sound to 16 bit and then back to 32, or when you convert 16 bit to 12 bit or 8 bit and then back to 16 bit.
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monster
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Username: Monster
Post Number: 1961
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 12:36 pm: | |
For some clarification, mp3 is not lossless, any time you convert to mp3 you will lose bits, and some mp3 encoding is better than others.
AAC also is not lossless, it is a lossy format, but better than mp3.
Apples lossless compression is "ALE" (Apple Lossless Encoding, also known as "Apple Lossless Audio Codec", "ALAC") ALE files are somewhere around half the size of the AIFF file it was encoded from, & it doesn't lose quality.
For a great explanation of all this in an easy to understand format for those of you just joining us, check out ars technica's "a guide to ripping and encoding music", start at chapter one,
Introduction to audio formats and bitrates.
For a great comparison guide for different lossless encoders, check out this page,
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Lossless_comparison
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