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monster
Supporter Username: Monster
Post Number: 2036 Registered: 7-2002

| Posted on Tuesday, February 7, 2006 - 1:07 am: |    |
Earlier today while doing some research on open source CMS, I ran into http://www.opensourcecms.com , a site devoted to open source Content Management Systems, it allows one to demo open source CMS on systems that are deleted and restored every two hours, also comes with the obligatory blogs, forums, etc. Very cool some open source CMS links Mambo Plone & Silva, built on Zope of the above links, only Mambo is available on the servers to demo. If you don't know what a CMS/Content Management System is, see the Wiki, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_system or the Google definitions, http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&oi=defmore&defl=en&q=defi ne:Content+management+system
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TarPit Coder
Citizen Username: Tarpitcoder
Post Number: 22 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, February 7, 2006 - 7:28 am: |    |
Wow Monster, that open source CMS site rocks. Is there a project your planning on trying out one of these with? I tend to think that there will at some point be a killer app from the CMS space which crosses over into the Business realm more. Have you seen any of these Open Source CMS systems being deployed inside companies? Back at the place I used to work we had a Wiki which was *really* cool but was sadly taken down. It contained all kinds of deep knowledge about the projects we were working on. The argument for taking it down was 'time-sink' - but I actually believe that was extremely short-sighted, the kind of tribal knowledge that wiki started to suck up was really interesting and it had a real cultural impact. --Tarp |
   
monster
Supporter Username: Monster
Post Number: 2037 Registered: 7-2002

| Posted on Tuesday, February 7, 2006 - 10:55 am: |    |
No, no project for myself at the moment, I was helping out a friend (& I could see myself possibly needing this in the future). I had heard that Mambo was pretty good, I vaguely remember reading about Plone in the past, and then of course there is the pay for CMS "Macromedia Contribute", which I was looking for an alternative too, which then led me to that site. I definitely will keep it bookmarked for future reference. I had set up Contribute for the web classes when I was working at FDU's Computer Career Institute, it wasn't part of the curriculum but it was good for them to learn how to use, and can be a great time saver for a site admin in letting customers update certain aspects of their sites which may change frequently, without destroying the whole page, or site even. Your in house Wiki sounds great, it's a shame they took it down. I've been thinking recently that MOL needs a Wiki. |
   
Dave
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 8551 Registered: 4-1997

| Posted on Tuesday, February 7, 2006 - 3:50 pm: |    |
This actually came in handy today. Thanks! |
   
monster
Supporter Username: Monster
Post Number: 2042 Registered: 7-2002

| Posted on Tuesday, February 7, 2006 - 5:15 pm: |    |
Welcome MEAD! |
   
TarPit Coder
Citizen Username: Tarpitcoder
Post Number: 24 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 - 9:05 am: |    |
Community computing rocks IMHO. A MOL wiki would be interesting, although the number of page edits might be crazy... original by user1>FOO Sucks! edit by user2 > FOO rocks edit by user3>FOO doesn't matter edit by user1>FOO Sucks! edit by user4>FOO makes my head hurt... Hmmm... Enforcing NPOV would be a nightmare. --Tarp
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Dave
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 8559 Registered: 4-1997

| Posted on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 - 9:07 am: |    |
Hence its absence. |
   
monster
Supporter Username: Monster
Post Number: 2045 Registered: 7-2002

| Posted on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 - 9:46 am: |    |
Yeah, I was thinking of that as soon as I wrote it. Perhaps a Technology Sticky with links to relevant sites we keep referring to, such as anti-virus & firewall, and iPod sites, and.... |
   
AlleyGater
Citizen Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1167 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 - 11:47 am: |    |
The beauty of Wiki's is that it's easier to fix something than it is to destroy something. And while it is inevitable that there will be stupid squabbles over dumb things, eventually there will be a consensus, and the activity on the page in question will simmer down. It's just the way the technology works and is used. I personally think a MOL wiki would be AWESOME and unbelievably useful. Maybe you guys are thinking too big. Imagine if we had started the MOL wiki small at first like try it out on an "area restaurant page", and see how it is received. I'd much rather point newbies to MOL to an "area restaurant wiki" than to the current mol/restaurant/ page which is missing restaurants, has no information about the restaurants on it and occassionally has wrong info on it. The wiki would be a phenomenal service to the community if used that way. |
   
AlleyGater
Citizen Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1168 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 - 11:56 am: |    |
My company is using OpenCMS and the way we are using it is horrible. There are so many problems with how we are using the tool I want to scream every day. Now I am not a developer, so I know very little with how much of this is a problem with OpenCMS or with how we have customized it. But doing very simple things becomes almost impossible with this CMS. Things like creating a simple form, adding Javascript to the header of a templated page, uploading individual files to the production server (which is impossible -- it's all or nothing) drives me crazy. Also the idea of having to constantly publish my projects after I edit my pages is unbelievably time consuming. Then their is the issue that the CMS doesn't create HTML that is formatted, making it really annoying to edit the source, which compounds the problem that since the pages are shown in fields of a form, that you can't do a normal SEARCH to find the bit of code you need to edit. I find myself constantly copying the code, pasting it into a text editor, doing a search for my code, editing the file, copying the code, and pasting it back into the form, saving the code, then hitting publish. The publish takes EASILY a minute every time I hit it, and I probably hit it 50 times in a day, effectively wasting AT LEAST an hour a day. I could go on, but I'll spare you. What I hear is that OpenCMS is no more evil than other CMS and that these gripes I have are mostly the same gripes I would have with any other CMS. I don't know if that is actually true though. |
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