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Just The Aunt
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Post Number: 4024
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 2:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Has anyone noticed a sudden rise in the number of attacks Norton Firewall has been catching? All of a sudden in the past few days, I've gone from only getting a few every couple of months or so to a very noticeable amount each day. I'd say between 25 and 50.

The only changes I've made with software was to download Spybot, Adaware, and Registry Mechanic. I also downloaded AOL's Virus Stuff. I didn't have problems the last time I had these things on the computer.

Should I try a System Restore? I have a screen shot of one of the attacks if that helps. But was reluctant putting that on the board as I'm pretty sure my ISP access number is on it.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Joan
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 5:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the fire wall is reporting the attacks and blocking them, you don't have a problem. It's the virus attacks which don't get reported that cause the problem.

It could simply be that the virus attack notification setting on your newly installed anti-virus software is higher than the setting you were using for your old anti-virus software. I would check that out before becoming overly concerned about this.
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Case
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 5:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No no no, no system restore. You're probably fine; it could be that some little script kiddie just got his very first cable modem and he's in your neighborhood!

Don't worry about it just yet, but keep an eye on it.
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monster
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 6:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Take that screen shot, and also make a copy of Norton's log file for when the attacks occur and send them to your ISP's abuse email address, which I've found generally to be abuse@ISPname.com.net.whatever, let them know that you are most unhappy, there may also be a link or form on the ISP's webpage.
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 9:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks all! I will continue to take screen shots. (I only took two so far). Strange though I uninstalled Spyhunter and made sure the Windoes firewall was off. Since I did that a couple of hours ago, I haven't had an attack.
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I spoke too soon. I just downloaded a song for one of my nephews from iTunes. Not three minutes later, I got an alert! AAAAH!
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This was what the latest attack says:

ISP Intruder 68.239.77.10 (1742)
MS PnP QueryResConflist BO

Anyone know what this means?
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Case
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sigh. OK, these aren't false positives - that's a real attack (though it may be being perpetrated by a moron script kiddy, so don't panic TOO much just yet).

The only thing that makes me feel a little better about this one is the following passage from the description posted below:

Windows XP SP2 and Windows Server 2003 require an attacker to have local
access to an affected computer for successful exploitation.


As someone already said, the firewall is catching this attack and preventing it (good news).

I'll post this, but give me a sec and I'll see who else you can send your security log to. I'm assuming that the IP address given in the report is the attacker's IP address.








MS PnP QueryResConflist BO
Severity: High

This attack could pose a serious security threat. You should take immediate action to stop any damage or prevent further damage from happening.



Description

This signature detects attempts to exploit a buffer overflow vulnerability in the Windows Plug and Play.



Additional Information

Microsoft Windows Plug and Play (PnP) service is used by the operating
system to detect new hardware.

The PnP service is prone to a buffer overflow vulnerability. This
vulnerability presents itself because the application does not perform
boundary checks prior to copying user-supplied data into sensitive
process buffers.

Specifically, this issue takes place when the PnP service handles
malformed messages containing excessive data. These messages are passed
to a finite sized buffer, triggering an overflow condition and
facilitating memory corruption. A successful attack may result in
arbitrary code execution, which can allow an attacker to gain SYSTEM
privileges.

This vulnerability facilitates local privilege escalation and
unauthorized remote access depending on the underlying operating system.
A remote unauthenticated attacker can exploit this issue on Windows 2000.
It is conjectured that on Windows 2000, an attacker would likely exploit
this issue using NULL session enumeration to gain access. On Windows XP
SP1 a remote attacker must authenticate over RPC to exploit this issue.
Windows XP SP2 and Windows Server 2003 require an attacker to have local
access to an affected computer for successful exploitation.

Microsoft has reported that other protocols such as Internetwork Packet
Exchange (IPX) and Sequenced Packet Exchange (SPX) may be vulnerable to
this issue as well. This has not been confirmed.

Reports indicate that this issue may lend itself to the development of
self-propagating malicious code due to the lack of user interaction and
authentication required for exploitation against Windows 2000.

** A worm exploiting this vulnerability has been reported in the wild.
Users are advised to deploy patches or implement appropriate mitigation -
such as blocking TCP port 445 at the network boundary - against the
exploitation of this vulnerability.

The various families of malware exploiting this vulnerability include;
Zotob, Esbot, Spybot, Tilebot, Bobox, Reattle, Randex and Codbot


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Case
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Regardless of who your ISP is, also send a copy to : abuse@verizon.net






OrgName: Verizon Internet Services Inc.
OrgID: VRIS
Address: 1880 Campus Commons Dr
City: Reston
StateProv: VA
PostalCode: 20191
Country: US

NetRange: 68.236.0.0 - 68.239.255.255
CIDR: 68.236.0.0/14
NetName: VIS-68-236
NetHandle: NET-68-236-0-0-1
Parent: NET-68-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.BELLATLANTIC.NET
NameServer: NS2.BELLATLANTIC.NET
NameServer: NS2.VERIZON.NET
NameServer: NS4.VERIZON.NET
Comment: Please send all abuse reports to abuse@verizon.net.
Comment: DO NOT send e-mail to DIA.ADMIN@verizon.com as it will not be answered.
RegDate: 2003-07-18
Updated: 2005-04-21

RNOCHandle: ZV20-ARIN
RNOCName: Verizon Internet Services
RNOCPhone: +1-703-295-4583
RNOCEmail: IPNMC@gnilink.net

OrgAbuseHandle: VISAB-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: VIS Abuse
OrgAbusePhone: +1-214-513-6711
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@verizon.net

OrgTechHandle: ZV20-ARIN
OrgTechName: Verizon Internet Services
OrgTechPhone: +1-703-295-4583
OrgTechEmail: IPNMC@gnilink.net

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2006-02-16 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 6:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Case
I am uninstalling Spybot as soon as I get home! Thanks!
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Case
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Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 9:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually, Spybot Search and Destroy is not your problem here - please do NOT uninstall it!

Feel free to send me a private message (or use my 'throwaway' email account, divemaster@optonline.net) to contact me and we can discuss this.
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can someone please tell me what 'Visual Tracking' is and how I access it? Also, I just realized for some reason the other day I changed all my settings to 'defaut.' Could that be my problem? I'm pretty sure my problems started after this.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, probably. You probably set it to the way it is out of the box, telling it to forget everything you have taught it since you installed it. So you have to teach it again over the next few weeks.

Case, a new kid "next door" doesn't have to be close, since cablevision addresses are public (I think). The evil kid could be anywhere on the planet.
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Too late. I uninstalled Spybot because it was mentioned in the information. then took off Adaware and Register Medic (or whatever it was called). I have to go with one of my sisters to meet another sister at the cemetery. I'm going to send you a PL when I get back. Thanks.
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Case
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Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 1:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah, but on a cable segment its a lot easier to find victims (unlike a DSL connection which is somewhat more isolated than a coax system).

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Dave
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Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 1:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interesting. Why is that?
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Case
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Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 2:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cable is a shared environment, a lot like the old original Ethernet (that was originally deployed on one long piece of coax with vampire taps).
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I could be wrong, but I don't think the Verizon firewall allows inbound connections. The cablevision and comcast ones do.

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Case
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 1:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No idea - I run my own Cisco systems here at the house...
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Ligeti
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 8:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When you design your life around computers, wireless networks and online "communication," this is what happens. You might as well just buy prime time TV spots promoting your credit card and social security numbers, and get it over with.

Best to put the emphasis on low-tech activities such as reading books, newspapers, encyclopedias, The NY Times Almanac, using the library and sending letters (which you actually have to put some thought into). These are all far more useful and accurate resources than the Internet. The Internet is the DREAM weapon of criminals, Big Brother and i.d. thieves.

Reject obsession with computers, cellphones, Blackbarries, and Wikipedia (silly, useless).
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Joan
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 8:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ligeti:

How does your suggestion help resolve JTA's present problem with firewall attacks?

JTA:

Can you reinstall the three programs you removed from your computer? It is a good idea to have them, especially since they seemed to be providing you with some benefit in controling viruses and spyware.
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 8:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a Verizon connection. It's strange since I removed all of that I haven't had a problem. I think I remember problems last year when I tried the AOL Security Pack. It wasn't compatible with Norton and the other things. If I could figure out how to uninstall the AOL Security Pack I would. I don't want to have to uninstall AOL completely as I don't want to loose my mail etc.

I'm not sure having the programs I just took off really helped me. After doing scans with them; I had no way to remove or block what was caught without buying the full product.

I have upgraded Norton I'm going to install this afternoon. I did notice something I didn't notice before, in Norton there is an option where I can view what seems like reports of attempted attacks. I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to print it. Screen shots are a pain because I can get only half of each one.
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Joan
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 9:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

JTA:

You don't really know you have a security problem on line unless your security software tells you that you do. The "attacks" you have been seeing reported by your firewall recently may mean that you installed more sensitive or up-to-date software rather than that there has been any change in the attacks. It may also be that your firewall attack report sensitivity settings are higher than they used to be, thus you are getting more alert messages. This is especially likely to be the case if you have seen a sudden decrease in attack notifications now that you have reverted back to your former anti-virus software.

When I first updated Norton, I started getting a lot of firewall messages that this thing or that was trying to access my machine. The "culprits" included incoming e-mail, scheduled updates, and other computer functions which I wanted the computer to be able to perform on line. Norton almost always began by recommending that these serious threats be blocked every time they occurred. Gradually, Norton "learned" that some operations were okay and set definitions for them. You should do the same with your Norton so you can better tell the "not to worry" alerts from the real threats to your system.

You do not have to pay anything to run the adaware and spybot programs and both will allow for free updates. You don't even have to be on line to run them. Check the on-line help for each program on how to use the program. Paid versions include automatic updates and other features which you don't really need as long as you remember to search for updates on a regular basis.
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Case
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Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gee, speaking of 'silly' and 'useless'....

.. nah. Too easy.
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Update: Since I removed all those programs mentioned above the other day I haven't had anymore attack notices. I plan to reinstall them on each day, beginning tomorrow. Maybe this will help determine where the problem is occuring...
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Case
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 9:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just to clarify - you haven't removed Norton, right?
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 5:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Case-
No. Still have Norton. I'm dumb, but not that dumb.

So far I've reinstalled Spybot and Adaware. So far, none of those 'alerts.' I just thought of something. It could have been the Weatherbug. I took that off too. I might try to put that back tomorrow.
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upondaroof
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 6:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd steer clear of "Weatherbug". It's loaded with adware. Point your browser to http://www.weather.com/index.html and download "Desktop Weather".(IMHO)

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