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Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13

Post Number: 4273
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 6:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How can I determine if someone decided surf the internet using my wireless network?
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TomD
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Post Number: 372
Registered: 5-2005


Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 8:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The easiest way is to see it as it happens. Depending on what router you have it will have a screen that shows what computers are currently connected. If you see one you don't know...well.

To see if someone used it in the past (and may not be connected anymore) would require that your router had logging enabled (which is unlikely) and, frankly, unnecessary.

Of course the best way to know is knowing whether you allow other people to use your wireless network. If it is open and unprotected then someone might have used it (perhaps without even knowing it). If it is locked down then no one else could have used it (practically speaking).
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Rastro
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 8:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's a nice little tool that will tell you what IP addresses are in use on your network. if you come up with more addresses than you have computers, someone else is likely on your network.

http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,23772,00.asp
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Case
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Post Number: 1248
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 9:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have to try that tool out, it looks useful!

I think you can also determine who's on your network by looking at the admin screens of the wireless router; you can view DHCP assignments that way.

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Case
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Post Number: 1249
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 9:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

PS to JTA - we can get your wireless security implemented pretty easily, if you haven't already done so.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 9:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It seems to me that a person or program that is only a little bit smart figures out which address to use without asking for help from the DHCP server. The result is that the DHCP server wouldn't know about the freeloader, so it wouldn't show up on the list of clients.
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Case
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can assume any level of technological competence you want, I guess, but if someone is making a real attack it probably won't matter anyway.

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monster
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 7:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

JTA, your router was set up to only allow your laptop to connect to it wirelessly, this was done by using the MAC address of the wireless card inside your laptop. I find it highly unlikely that any one of your neighbors is spoofing that MAC address, not impossible just highly unlikely.
Besides having the MAC address of the laptop as being the only address allowed to connect wirelessly to the router, the SSID isn't being broadcast, someone would have to know what the name is of the connection they wish to join, and would have to have their MAC address added in the router to be allowed access.
Why do you think someone was using your connection?

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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks all! I was actually asking because I wanted to piggyback on someone else's connection; but didn't want them to know. A few people near my friend have wireless, but she doesn't. Since I was going to be at her house today I wanted to log on the internet to do some things. I couldn't because the signal wasn't strong enough.

(I know monster. If you talk to "I" I'm sure he will tell you I asked him about this when I saw him this morning. I didn't know I would see him when I posted the note).

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