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The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1940
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 3:08 pm: | 
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just wondering if i am the only one. |
Duncan
Supporter
Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 6188
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 12:24 pm: |
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I'm guessing you would have to be one to know what you mean? |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1941
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 12:37 pm: |
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yup |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 2863
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 12:40 pm: |
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http://www.kingdomofloathing.com/static.php?id=whatiskol |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1942
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 1:00 pm: |
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beware my moxie! i am the disco bandit known as Sir Loogey Du Phlegm, Duke of Lungcookeeia! |
Alleygater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1699
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 2:34 pm: |
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OMG, I'm a disco bandit too that goes by the name of Peeing Gently. |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1943
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 2:41 pm: |
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are you in a clan? |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1944
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 2:48 pm: |
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Bah! you are only a level 2 while i am a level 4 Jiggy Grifter!
Have you joined our guild yet, the department of shadowy arts and crafts? |
kmk
Supporter
Username: Kmk
Post Number: 1168
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 3:05 pm: |
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Could my 12 year old play this and not be exposed to anything unseemly?
It looks hysterical! |
Alleygater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1703
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 3:13 pm: |
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I am only level 2 (as Libby so rudely announced to the world) so I can't really answer that question. But my first hour of playing has shown me NOTHING unseemly unless of course you offended by non-sequiturs. On the other hand there is a chat element to the world. And when you are chatting with live humans you always need to be cautious. |
kmk
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Username: Kmk
Post Number: 1169
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 3:51 pm: |
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Good point...
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The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1945
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 3:58 pm: |
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the game itself is quite g-rated but alot of the humor will go over his head. it pokes fun at rpg games and internet fads.
I am only level 2 (as Libby so rudely announced to the world)
sorry, i am under the influence of a moxious madrigal and some goofballs. they make me a little more moxilicious than normal. |
kmk
Supporter
Username: Kmk
Post Number: 1177
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 5:19 pm: |
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Good Lord...
Today's really, really disturbing story out of Oklahoma mentions KOL.
The murderer spent most of his spare time playing it.
I am a parent of three young girls. I will not introduce them to this game or permit them to play it if they find it on their own. |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1950
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 1:25 pm: |
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i dont even know where to begin with the ignorance and hysteria that appears on this board from time to time.
i bet the murderer also spent some time eating and sleeping. make sure your girls stop that as well. |
kmk
Supporter
Username: Kmk
Post Number: 1181
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 2:25 pm: |
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It is neither ignorance nor hysteria...it is something I was "on the fence" about and, obtuse as it may seem to you, this has helped me make up my mind.
Instead of being the one who introduces my daughter to an online game/chatroom, I (being her mother) plan on introducing her to something new in her physical world - like tennis.
Yes - I know there have been problably thousands of child murderers who play tennis.
It is just that they don't discuss their fantasies with them in a chatroom. |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1951
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 3:31 pm: |
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i heard the murderer also liked to urinate once a day. you better stop your girls from doing that or they will get the urge to kill!
if i were you , i would have their bladders surgically removed immediately! |
kmk
Supporter
Username: Kmk
Post Number: 1182
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 5:05 pm: |
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My guess is that you are not a parent. |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1953
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 6:09 pm: |
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i can make quite a few guesses as to what you are. |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 2909
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 11:31 am: |
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kmk, not just not a parent, but he's strongly against funding public education.
My initial reaction was similar to his, but I understand the desire to keep one's kids safe, and to elimiate a *potential* threat. Do you monitor your kids other internet usage, though? IMs? MySpace and similar sites? |
Alleygater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1761
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 12:42 pm: |
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kmk, I support your right to police your childrens activities. Having said that I was raised on rock and roll, video games and I even played dungeons and dragons. All of which were in the news at one time or another for being the cause or partially the cause for both murder and suicide. So have many things though. Visual art, creative writing, sports, archery, hunting, biking, etc.
I am EXTREMELY reluctant to say that a cutesy role playing game online was bad or even a bad influence on someone just because a crazy person used it. That's actually not even remotely rational, in the least. The person may have been suicidal or sociopathic before they found that game. You didn't give me enough information to even make a determination that they were even related. You just assumed they were.
Remember Columbine? Those kids listened to Marilyn Manson. So that music must be responsible for all those deaths, right? That is almost identical to what you are saying.
I always tend to START my assumptions when this stuff happens that the parents were responsible for the way those children turned out before I assume that external factors are involved. Judging from the way you care about your children, I would guess that your children could play KOL (or do any of the things I listed on this post and much more) and they would be fine. I did ALL of them, and I turned out fine. It's good to be concerned for your kids safety it's another to create false assumptions and propagate irrational hysteria online though. |
Amateur Night
Citizen
Username: Deborahg
Post Number: 1830
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 5:26 pm: |
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My 10 y.o. plays KOL, I've checked it out very thoroughly -- I have a persona on all the games my kids use online (as well as a myspace in the name of our cat, Mr. Pearl). Anyway KOL strikes me as harmless. Just my .02. |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1961
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 5:52 pm: |
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OMG! I just read that the killer lived in Oklahoma! Everyone in Oklahoma must be a serial killer! ARREST THE STATE!!! |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 2913
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 11:19 pm: |
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Local, don't try to speak about things you don't understand. You don't like it when other people do. |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1967
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 12:02 am: |
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i understand perfectly well. dont patronize me. you will only look foolish |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 2916
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 12:07 am: |
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No more patronizing than you sound all the time.
You obviously don't understand (your claims to the contrary notwithstanding), or you would not be mocking a parent's choice on how they are raising their children. Did you even read her post of 2:25 on 4/17? |
Case
Citizen
Username: Case
Post Number: 1382
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 8:45 am: |
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There's another aspect of controlling a child's access to the online environment... not the danger factor, or the possible 'bad influences' (that obviously DO exist) - the other concern is TIME.
A friend of mine told me about this... she simply does not want her kids zoned out in front of the computer for 12 hours a day, not going outside, not seeing friends, not getting exercise... (dammit, I just described most of my weekdays).
No, I don't think there's a strong correlation between this game and killing someone. I suppose ANY outside contact via the Internet introduces a certain level of danger to a child, but it seems like that should be controllable with simple communication. If you don't have a good, open relationship with the kid you've got bigger problems than the Internet, right?
And finally - if a parent decides that a child is not going to do something, who are we to say they're wrong? That's like saying a parent who 'forces' a child to learn piano is wrong... it's just none of our concern. I mean, parents should have the liberty to raise their kids the way they wish, without outside agencies meddling. I'm surprised that a Libertarian would want to change that....
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The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1969
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 7:03 pm: |
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You obviously don't understand (your claims to the contrary notwithstanding), or you would not be mocking a parent's choice on how they are raising their children. Did you even read her post of 2:25 on 4/17?
i do understand and still think it is hysterical, ignorant , phooey. |
Case
Citizen
Username: Case
Post Number: 1386
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 8:16 pm: |
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I think its amusing, but hardly hysterical. (get it?)
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The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1972
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 9:25 pm: |
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i do get it. i really do. |
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