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flugermongers
Citizen
Username: Flugermongers
Post Number: 616
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 10:10 pm: | 
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I really would love an mp3 player that is of large capacity, 60 gig is the largest I can find anywhere, but that, or over, that functions basically as a plug and play hard drive, with a headphone jack. The one and only extra feature I'd appreciate would be that it records voice. There's a 5gb one from Creative that does that, but it's only 5gb. Is there anything out there that's high capacity, plug 'n' play, and records voice?? |
Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1123
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 10:48 pm: |
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A small laptop. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14667
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 11:04 pm: |
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Get an ipod and a Griffin iTalk. The latter turns the former into a voice recorder.
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Bailey
Citizen
Username: Baileymac
Post Number: 313
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 8:01 am: |
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My kids gave me a Belkin voice recorder for my 40Gig iPod a couple years ago, which works well.
I found a review though that agrees with Tom.. get a 60Gig iPod with Griffin's iTalk.
http://www.macworld.com/2004/08/reviews/ipodvoicerecorders/ |
TomD
Citizen
Username: Tomd
Post Number: 463
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 9:46 am: |
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It's not small or cheap, but it is 100GB, with FM and recorder...
http://www.digmind.com/store/index.html
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flugermongers
Citizen
Username: Flugermongers
Post Number: 619
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 3:48 pm: |
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The Xclef 500 is the one you're talking about, right? Wow... it's SO cool! I wonder why I haven't seen it - I've been looking for a while now. Thanks TomD. Ooph, but it's also $400. Hm... any other high capacity plug n plays w/ recorder (or wo/)? |
Alleygater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 2247
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 6:49 pm: |
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ok that is one ugly device. |
wnb
Citizen
Username: Wnb
Post Number: 421
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 10:00 pm: |
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Impressive feature set, though. I wonder what the OS / interface is like. |
flugermongers
Citizen
Username: Flugermongers
Post Number: 621
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 11:45 pm: |
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Oh I don't care about ugly. I only care about size, features, interface, and price, and that it is plug and play.
Whoa, now there's a singles ad. |
Alleygater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 2249
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 1:32 am: |
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As for size it looks like an ugly behometh. |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3371
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 11:17 am: |
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Who knew an MP3 player was a fashion statement.Most people I see with MP3 players have them in their pockets.
Is there an MP3 player that is not from Apple that you like? |
wnb
Citizen
Username: Wnb
Post Number: 424
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 4:13 pm: |
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The size is a little bigger than an iPod but it's a reasonable trade-off because the device uses standard 2.5 inch laptop hard drive. That means you can easily upgrade it or replace it if it becomes defective.
Yes it's true you can buy and install a replacement iPod HD yourself fairly easily but it's still a more specialized product. |
flugermongers
Citizen
Username: Flugermongers
Post Number: 624
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 4:54 pm: |
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Rastro, I said earlier that I like the Creative Muvo2fm, it records voice, but it is only available in 5 gig.  |
Earlster
Supporter
Username: Earlster
Post Number: 1549
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 11:26 pm: |
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The iRiver players have voic recording. And are usually pretty good reviewed. Only 20GB, though.
http://www.iriveramerica.com/prod/hd/h10_20gb_red.aspx |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3375
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 12:38 pm: |
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fluger, my comment was not to you. Sorry if it seemed that way. |
flugermongers
Citizen
Username: Flugermongers
Post Number: 627
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 6:43 pm: |
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Ohh no problem - what are you sorry for? Aw man I'm still lookin around... I can buy a used Creative, but still... ::sigh:: |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14724
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 6:44 pm: |
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flugermongers, why not an ipod and an itrip?
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flugermongers
Citizen
Username: Flugermongers
Post Number: 628
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 11:19 pm: |
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Tom, I want a plug and play sort of machine - iPods aren't that.
Hehe, did you see my post about wanting a picture of my holster? |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14730
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 7:29 am: |
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What do you mean they're not plug and play?
Sorry I forgot you want a picture. I'll get you one. My 17 year old is using that holster now. I would have used it happily, but she asked for it.
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flugermongers
Citizen
Username: Flugermongers
Post Number: 638
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 4:11 pm: |
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Plug and play is like it being recognized as an external hard drive... you can put anything on it, and format how you wish.
It's ok... I should have gotten hold of another holster and given you that one. I miss it! Hearing about you guys using it is like hearing about an ex dating someone else HAHAHA. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14738
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 5:26 pm: |
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I'll ask my daughter if she's willing to part with it. Would that be like going back to an old boyfriend?
There is third party software that lets you mount the ipod as a disk. You can copy files (drag and drop) freely between computer and ipod. It's free.
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Alleygater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 2255
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 6:32 pm: |
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You don't need software. The ipod shows up as a drive. You can put files on it. Pull your files off of it. I'm not sure what Fluger is talking about. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14739
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 11:10 pm: |
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She's talking about the fact that Apple went through great pains to see that when you connect your ipod, you can't access your music files as files. This is to protect the intellectual property rights. The add-on software breaks this barrier. The entire ipod mounts as a disk, including the music files.
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flugermongers
Citizen
Username: Flugermongers
Post Number: 640
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 12:12 am: |
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Oooh... I will have to look in to that - so it is just a drive? I can put Word Perfect files on there too?
LOL! Well, it wouldn't be like going back to an old boyfriend - I DON'T MISS MY OLD BOYFRIEND! Ba dum bump.
I'd feel bad having you part with it if you didn't have anything else. err... Would newer iPods even fit in it??? |
Alleygater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 2257
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 12:54 pm: |
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OK, Fluger. Here is your ipod education. When you attach your ipod to a computer this happens.
If it's a Mac formatted ipod. It only shows up on a Mac. The ipod launches Itunes and it shows up in that program (ready to synch with your music library). You use itunes to move PLAYABLE music onto your ipod. But your ipod also shows up on your computers desktop as a hard drive. You can move ANYTHING onto your ipod from the desktop, because it is essentially just a hardrive. There is no funky software that does anything out of the ordinary. You drag stuff it copies. It's a harddrive. The only caveat I will say is that IF you move music (mp3 and mp4 files) onto this harddrive, Itunes (when your ipod is attached to the computer) or your ipod (when it's not attached to the computer) will not play those files. But you can drag those files off on the next Mac that you attach it to. The reason why this is true, is because as I already stated above, ITUNES is the only method of getting PLAYABLE music onto your Ipod. So if you want to hear those songs while using your ipod use iTunes to copy it over. Capice?
There are workarounds to this limitation as Tom mentioned. I don't use Tom's software to workaround it. I use a program called Senuti. It is an elegant application that lets me get music that is on my ipod back onto a hard drive. Since this is the limitation that bothers me, I use it. If the limitation that bothers you is that you can't play songs that are on the hard drive portion of the drive, than you need to find the software that Tom discusses).
The only last thing I will say is that I like to format the Hard drive of the ipod for a PC, rather than for a mac. The reason for this is that when it's formatted for a PC it is mountable on both Macs and Windows machines. Then I can copy off my files that are on my hard drive onto any machine I come across with no special software whatsoever. And I can also drag music onto my ipod (using iTunes) from any machine (Mac or PC) because I use the feature that lets me manage music manually. Later when I am home, I use Senuti to move that music onto my Hard drive of my computer. With my method I have no limitations. I can use the thing as a hard drive on any computer I attach it to and copy anything to it. And I can get music from any computer I connect it to to play it. And I can get the music back off of it onto my computer at home. WHAT MORE DO I NEED IT TO DO that you don't think it can do?
So long story short, you want the ultimate flexibility that you will get from another companies mp3 player, and what you don't realize is that the reason why the ipod is so unbelievably popular is because it doesn't have the limitations that you think it does. Everyone else on the planet (that cares to know this already) knows this...except you. Now stop being so silly, cave in and get the slightly more expensive but totally worth it better player. Go get yourself that ipod now and end this thread already.
Also of note, I had a friend who first bought himself an iriver player. He loved it's extra features (he could add a high-end microphone to it and record his gigs). He bragged about how much better it was than everyone elses ipods and other players (I had a mp3 cd player at the time). His sister bought him an ipod one Christmas). Now he is onto his second ipod. It's like all those people who brag about how great Brooklyn is, until they finally move back to Manhattan, and then complain every time they have to go back into Brooklyn for a party or such. |
flugermongers
Citizen
Username: Flugermongers
Post Number: 641
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 3:03 pm: |
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Um, Alley, I do know all of that. A cousin who uses his 20GB iPod religiously has all those capabilities. With an iPod, I would have to buy those softwares, buy the add'l hardware to record, and learn how to get around everything, instead I just want a plug and play that doesn't need software to get around it, a larger capacity if possible than 60gig, and something with a built in recorder. I'm not sure why non-conformists bother you so much.
P.S. I prefer Manhattan. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14740
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 2:58 pm: |
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Thanks for the long explanation, Alleygater.
I formatted my ipod for a PC for the reason you state. I don't want to be locked out of using it with a PC. But I should state that there is an advantage to using the Mac format. The Mac filesystem is more robust. Small errors can make the drive unreadable (or is the word illegible?) with the FAT32 (Windows) filesystem, and the unix-ish filesystem of the Mac has more protections against that.
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Alleygater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 2264
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 10:40 am: |
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Flug, it's not a matter of you being a non-conformist. From what you were said it seemed to me like it was an issue that you seemed uneducated about what you were talking about in regards to ipods. I'm sorry now it seems you knew it all, all along. I wish I had known that, and saved myself a good half hour of typing. |
Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1169
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 11:05 am: |
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There is no such thing as a non-conformist. |
flugermongers
Citizen
Username: Flugermongers
Post Number: 642
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 11:58 am: |
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Aw, Alley - thank you for typing so much - if it helps, there were a few things in there I didn't know, like if it is formatted to a PC, it'll work on both. I just don 't want to have to work around that - and it really isn't a non-conformist thing, it's just that I want something that's just a hard drive. If I can't find it, I may wind up doing all you said.
Please do not take my reply as an ungrateful one for your help. |
Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1172
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 1:02 pm: |
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Why not a get a mini disc player/recorder? |
TomD
Citizen
Username: Tomd
Post Number: 477
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 10:46 am: |
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Maybe this fits the bill:
Creative Zen Vision:M 30 GB MP3 and Video Player
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TomD
Citizen
Username: Tomd
Post Number: 480
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 5:15 pm: |
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Also, I have a slightly earlier version of this mp3 player and I love it. It doesn't have a radio or voice recorder, but it is the simplest thing in the world to use. I don't need any special software. No itunes, no jukebox software. I just copy the files I want on to the unit and it plays them. It lets you delete files directly from the unit (again, no messing around with itunes) which is great because I can delete podcasts after I listen to them. Also, you can create and edit playlists directly on the unit. And it is tiny. ipod devotees may call it "ugly," but it is still my choice.
BTW, it has so far proven very durable even after a few bounces on the pavement (it didn't even stop playing). |
flugermongers
Citizen
Username: Flugermongers
Post Number: 648
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 1:19 am: |
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Yeah TomD, I like Creative Labs - but they don't make anything 60GB anymore. Archos makes nice 80 & 100GB models, but they're like $700 -- and the Vision:M is still 300 dollars even though it is only 30GB - it's 'cause they have the video, photo etc... I don't care about that stuff... |
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