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Gatica™
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Username: Katracho

Post Number: 292
Registered: 11-2002


Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 9:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is for Rastro...

Follow the link below and plug in your telephone number. It will tell you if your line is FIOS-capable. I plugged mine in, and I can get the data service. I already have DSL, so, I have to study the pros and cons of having either service. Afterall, FIOS is more expensive.

Verizon FIOS
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Larry Seltzer
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Username: Elvis

Post Number: 42
Registered: 4-2006


Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 7:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do you live in Maplewood or South Orange? I was pretty sure they were not going to wire here for the forseeable future.
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider


Post Number: 14731
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 7:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Last year, a Verizon technician had parked his truck in front of our house. My wife and I went and talked to him. We talked for quite a while. He said that wiring Orange, South Orange, and Maplewood for FTTP (which is what he called it) would start in 2006. He said this explains why the current lines are so reliable. They want to do as few repairs as possible because the fibers will be replacing the copper.

How will phone service over fiber work? Fiber can't carry power. Will we need batteries in our basements once again?
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TomD
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Username: Tomd

Post Number: 467
Registered: 5-2005


Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 8:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



No dice near the Hilton library.

So, the 3Mbps/768 DSL is $30/month
the FiOS is 5Mbps/2Mbps for $40
and 15Mbps/2Mbps for $50 (won't even mention the 30Mbps/5 plan...that's practically equivalent to a T3 line).

The $40 plan compares well with cable, but it's still pricy. Faster is always nice, but I'm (surprisingly) content with my el cheapo $15 768/128 service. When I remote into my home pc from work I wish that upload speed in particular was faster, but for $15 a month I deal with it.

With any luck the new service levels will up the speeds on the low level service.


BTW, how absurdly out of place is the windsurfing image?
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Larry Seltzer
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Username: Elvis

Post Number: 44
Registered: 4-2006


Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 9:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

FTTP is "fiber to the premises" and phone service is VoIP with the fiber interface box acting as the VoIP TA. It sends power to the phones, but it plugs in to a power line so it either needs a UPS or you lose phones in a power outage.

I'd normally scream hallelujah but they don't offer a service with static IP so it's not going to be adequate for me. I may need to re-evaluate.

And remember, they're stringing this fiber mostly to offer cable TV, not Internet service, and they don't have a cable franchise in Maplewood and they haven't passed their state bill yet removing that requirement. So they may not offer service here at all until that's resolved.
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Monster©
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Username: Monster


Post Number: 3603
Registered: 7-2002


Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I want everything via FIOS
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider


Post Number: 14733
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 2:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Right, the fiber interface box and the phones need power. We'll have to provide that. In that respect, this is a big step backward.

Why do you need a static IP address? I assume you know about dynamic DNS services.

Though I believe the problem with Verizon DSL is that they way the set you up with PPPoE and their NAT firewall, you can't reach inside the network from outside. With cable modem service, you can. I'm not sure if it's PPPoE's fault or some other aspect of the network architecture.

I'm using comcast service currently and like it. I have a dyndns.com domain for free.

And just to be picky, will we call it "cable TV" when it comes over the fiber? We might call it fiber TV instead. Oh, then again, it is a fiber cable.

It's really good to have you back, Larry.

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Gatica™
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Username: Katracho

Post Number: 294
Registered: 11-2002


Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 3:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Larry, I am in Maplewood.

Tom, I believe the FiOS fiber will come to a protected dmarc location (but accessible to a tech) outside your house. From that dmarc, it will have some sort of smartjack/mux where it'll split into four copper voice lines, one copper video line, and one copper data line. So, basically, you will still have copper inside the house and all your telephone and TV extensions will work as before. And that this point, the "last mile" limitations are non-existent for the data line.

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Larry Seltzer
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Username: Elvis

Post Number: 46
Registered: 4-2006


Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I checked the Fios page and it says it's not available for me (but I *can* get Verizon DSL!). I'm really surprised that anyone here can get it, I had the distinct impression that their wiring plan bypassed Maplewood for many years to come. I just checked phone numbers for friends at various edges of town and got nothing but "Verizon FiOS Internet Service is not available for your home."

My experience with Dynamic DNS is that it's not reliable enough and I don't like the fact that the services are widely abused by unsavory people. If FiOS became available I might give up on my self-hosting obsession (that's why I need static IP addresses) and get a high-end hosting account.

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