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Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13

Post Number: 5642
Registered: 1-2004


Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How hard is it to secure a network? How can I tell if someone is using mine?
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Glock 17
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Post Number: 1433
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This has come up before... Is it a wireless network?
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Just The Aunt
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Post Number: 5643
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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes. I have a desk computer and a laptop. I am getting nervous because it seems as if someone is piggybacking on my connection.
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Tom Reingold
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Post Number: 15040
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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Didn't Case secure your network already?

What makes you think someone is piggybacking? If it's slow performance, that's one explanation, and there are plenty of others. Piggybacking is one of the less likely explanations.
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argon_smythe
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Post Number: 858
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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 3:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just look at the client list on your router and you'll see what machines have been assigned ip addresses. If any of them are unfamiliar then you're on to something, but if you're problem is performance, you'd probably have to have 100 people piggybacking on your wireless router downloading gigabytes of porn simultaneously before you actually noticed it. Probably you don't have that much parking in front of your house.

Chances are far more likely you need to run a spyware scanner on your computer. Have you installed any new software lately?
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Case
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Post Number: 1844
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 4:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

After a few "no reply" emails, I kind of assumed someone else had helped her with that particular project.
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Monster©
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Post Number: 4055
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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 4:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe I did that awhile back, but I also think she has made changes since then, and it's not as I left it.
When I was there I had it set up to only allow particular MAC addresses to connect via wireless.
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wasn't Case. He was going to help add other computers. But (I see now he did try to email me) I didn't hear back and figured he got busy. I was also having problems with my email. Dave or Jamie can confirm I recently change my MOL registered email address. I also ended up returning the laptops before I even left the store because it turned out to be not what it seemed.

I know Monster set me up for the MAC address, cause that's what he told me, but it shows as 'unsecured' and the person in my neighborhood I let know his network showed as 'unsecured' shortly after Monster set up mine, told me the other day he's logged on through mine. Don't know how he even knew it was mine.

How do I check the list on my router?? I haven't installed new software, and I have run spyware -which comes back no problems.

BTW Monster- I've been carrying around this cable in my car for you since back when you used yours! Been into Bunny's several times but didn't find you. Tried to leave it for you (not with Leslie or Blaise though) but nobody wanted to take responsibility.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I saw a book in the Maplewood library that tells you how to do this stuff. It's published by Ziff Davis, the people who put out PC Magazine.

Or you might read the manual for your router. The instructions there might explain it well.
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Monster©
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Post Number: 4058
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Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It shows as unsecured because it is, WEP is not enabled, I would think that the person who told you he connected to your network is probably connecting to one of the other numerous open wireless signals in your area.
But on the off chance that the MAC settings that were made in the filter list are for some reason gone or corrupted, read below.

Do the following from your desktop computer,
Open a web browser window on a connected computer and type http://192.168.1.1 into the address bar and press enter. A window will pop up prompting you for a username and password to access the configuration page for your router. Enter admin for both the username and password.

click on the Wireless tab at the top of the settings screen.

click on the Wireless MAC Filter subsection at the top of the page.

Check to make sure the "Enable the Wireless MAC Filter" option is selected, make sure that the option to Permit only PCs listed to access the wireless network is selected.

Click on the Save Settings button at the bottom of the Filter List window and then Continue.

Now click on the Edit MAC Filter List button to pop up a new window where you will enter the MAC Address, also known as Physical Address, for each computer that you will be using to connect to your wireless network. The MAC address for your laptop should be listed, if not you will need to enter it. If you don't know how to get this information follow these steps.

For Windows XP or 2000:

Click the Start button.
Choose Run.
Type cmd in the Run dialog box and then click OK.
In the command prompt window, type ipconfig/all and then hit Enter.
Write down the IP Address and Physical Address. The Physical Address is your computer's hardware adddress.
Note: There may be more than one set of numbers. Look at the Description of each set. If you cannot tell which is important, you may want to write all of them down.

Once you have entered the MAC address, click the Save Settings button at the bottom of the Filter List window and then Continue when the Settings are successful dialog is displayed. You may now close the Mac Address Filter List window, and the browser window.


Get your laptop and see if you can access the internet.

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Monster©
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Post Number: 4059
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Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh yeah, about the zip cable, you could always just drop it in my mail slot on the front door, or try Bunnys on Tuesday evening.
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argon_smythe
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Username: Argon_smythe

Post Number: 859
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Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 1:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Again, the chances that someone is maliciously logging into your wireless network and affecting the performance of your machine are next to nil. Did you look at the wireless client list and see any machines there you didn't recognize? If not, for one thing your neighbor is wrong and he's not connected through your network, and for another you are barking up the wrong tree on resolving your performance problem.

If you're generally concerned with security just stop broadcasting your SSID and you'll eliminate virtually all casual hangers-on. And if you have MAC filtering enabled (sounds like you might) then I can say with 99% certainty nobody is tagging on to your connection.

If it means a lot for the little tag to say "Secured" then go ahead and enable WEP encryption, but if you do I guarantee you'll be logging on here (from another computer and another connection) almost daily with more problems to solve.


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Just The Aunt
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Post Number: 5692
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Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 8:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks all! I think my neoghbor might be messing with me.

Monster -didn't make it to Bunny's b/c by the time Big Brother was over it was storming! If you PL me your address (can't remember as I was only there once when I dropped something off last year) I'll drop it off this week.

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