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Gerardryan
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 9:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I post the agendas of TC meetings, I do it by opening up a Word document, copying the entire agenda to the clipboard, then pasting it into the "Add a Message" window.

It *looks* fine when i add the message and paste, but when I look at it in the preview I see some odd characters:

RESOLUTION ö Participation of Public

What ought to be a dash between the words RESOLUTION and Participation looks like an o with an umlaut on the posting, even though it looks fine in the text window.

Is this a funny mac vs windows font issue?
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Dave
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 10:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is a MS Word issue. Something in the character sets. I think it's mostly the "M-dash" and a few other characters.
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Jgberkeley
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 10:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mr. Ryan,

I do this often and have the same problem. While I have not found the solution to the problem, I have a work around.

I copy from Word, then paste to the "Add a Message" box on MOL. I then click "Preview/Post Message".

I scan the Preview and slide down the window to the "Revise your Message" box and delete and replace the character that went wacky.

Below that box is the "Preview/Post Message" button which updates the Preview.

I scan it again quickly, then click "Post this Message"

It takes a bit longer, but I find that it works until I have the time to play around for the "Real" fix.
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Gerardryan
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 11:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave: it's em-dashes. Hmm... maybe I could make a macro to go in and change from em-dashes to regular dashes? Or maybe a font change...

JG: I had been using that workaround, but there are an awful lot of dashes and quotes in these things. I'm seeking the "real fix" :-)

Jerry Ryan
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Jgberkeley
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 11:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is a test of ãthe character issueä when using cut from Word and ÎPasteâ to MOL!

test of dash following a word ö
-test of a dash starting a line
- test of dash, space starting a line
test of dash-between a word
test of space dash ö space then word
test of _underscore
test of +Plus
test of slash/between words
test of {brackets}, [boxed brackets], (parens)
test of ! @ # $ % ^ & *

What version of Word are you using? I'm on Word 2000.
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Jgberkeley
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 11:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Test of direct insert of characters from Word.
שׂהּשּ♫Ω
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Jgberkeley
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 12:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like another quick fix would be to remove the spaces from before and after the dash.

As in:
RESOLUTION-Participation of Public

SECOND-Roll Call

b. Board of Adjustment-vacancies Alt. #1 and Alt. #2

Which while this is not the 'Real' fix it seems to work and it does not look that bad.
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Joancrystal
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 12:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does the same problem occur if you do the document in Word Perfect (Corel)?
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Enigmabomb
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 4:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is my hack for this:
Use Notepad, or wordpad if you want. They use extremely standard font sets. Macros won't fly here pardner, most virus software will zap them dead. I think they are evil. Also, You might try typing stuff within the add message box? I don't know, it sounds logical enough, and get this, HTML FORMATTING! W00t!

-enigmabomb-
"Macro Processing, It's the next big hoax from intel"
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Lseltzer
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 5:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe the key here is the Tools-AutoCorrect dialog box, specifically the "AutoFormat as you type" page. There is a "Hyphens with dash" or something similar option.

This is a - normal hyphen

This is a normal double -- hyphen

This (I think) is an autoformatted ö hyphen

This is an autoformatted double ö hyphen
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Nursie
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 5:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Enigmabomb:
I am posting this here because I am sure you will show up. You seem to be a present day success story for CHS which gets so much flack here on MOL. You seem mature,intellegent with interesting views. I think you should do a "profile" of yourself on that thread. I don't think any teens have done it yet. Thread drift warning! Does anyone else agree?
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Enigmabomb
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 5:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks! I try to conduct myself with ethics, ethics which seem to closely resemble hacker ethics. I hadn't intended on making a profile. But, I will make one now. I like Columbia, It's hard to find like minded people there though. A lot of people are into things that I find morally reprhensible (things that law does not find acceptable either). I attribute none of anything to Maplewood Middle School.

-enigmabomb-
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Enigmabomb
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 5:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, Profile is made. Warning, What you may read will shock you, scare you, and may even enlighten you to the secret world that is teenagers. You have been warned.

-enigmabomb-

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