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bobk
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Post Number: 6218
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Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 3:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Since even with anti-virus protection we seem to pick up bugs with IE my kiddies have been using this product. Is it more bug proof? Is it a rework of Netscape?

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woodstock
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Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 3:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mozilla is an open source "version" of Netscape. They now follow separate development paths, but in essence, Mozilla is considered a much safer alternative to IE.

Another option would be Opera, though the free version has ads.
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monster
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Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 3:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your kids seem to know what they are doing, Mozilla rocks. Use that pop-up blocker, tabbed browsing, easy management of cookies, images, pipups, and forms per site visited. Drag-n-drop bookmarks into the folders in your personal toolbar, not to mention the great bookmarks management.
Well, if you really want to no more, why don't you visit the Mozilla site, http://www.mozilla.org/
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Dave
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Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 11:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I heard rumors that Google is developing a browser based on Mozilla.
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monster
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Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 12:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I heard those rumors to Dave, and to fuel the rumor even more...Google has been doing some impressive hiring away of talent from certain other companies.
Check this article out, http://www.nypost.com/business/30438.htm
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argon_smythe
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Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 9:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Google's also providing a news service to China that blocks sites the government doesn't want its citizens to see. So thanks a bunch but I think I'll stick with open source!

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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Monday, October 4, 2004 - 10:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The product called Mozilla is a bundled package that is both a web browser and an email program (aka client). Mozilla is also the name of the group that produces serveral programs, one being the above-mentioned bundled package. This is confusing, but we have to live with it.

The Mozilla unbundled programs are even better. The unbundled mailer is Thunderbird, which I use exclusively.

The unbundled browser is called Firefox, which I only use lightly.

I feel that Mozilla and Firefox are far superior to IE but Opera is even better. Give it a try.

Get Mozilla products from http://www.mozilla.org. Get Opera from http://www.opera.com.
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Albatross
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Posted on Monday, October 4, 2004 - 10:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've just done my own side-by-side comparison of IE and Mozilla on my computer...

- Mozilla loads faster on start-up
- Mozilla loads pages faster
- Mozilla comes with plug-ins, including e-mail and IRC clients, and an HTML editor if you need it
- Easier to manage downloads, passwords and form information on Mozilla
- Maybe it's just that I've used IE for years, but IE is easier to get arond for simple stuff, like setting the homepage, but I think a little more time will fix that

Verdict: I'm keeping IE only for Windows updates...
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Rick B
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Post Number: 125
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Posted on Friday, October 8, 2004 - 10:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Albatross, did you do the same comparison between Mozilla and Opera?

Opera is my choice in browsing, newsfeeds, and a mail client all in one.
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Albatross
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Posted on Saturday, October 9, 2004 - 5:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, I haven't... I actually had not heard of Opera before Tom mentioned it. I will try it out and see what I get.

Alb
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Albatross
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Posted on Saturday, October 9, 2004 - 6:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmm... I can't say that I don't like it. It has all of the good featurs that make it better than IE, but I still prefer Mozilla for a couple of reasons.

As far as speed goes, on my cpu they were about the same. I like the Mozilla toolbars and interface better.

I didn't like how Opera displayed ads unless you bought the software.

Mozilla runs in the system tray, so when you open it initially it pops right up; i have to wait a bit for Opera. But those're all marginal performance issues.

The one telling point: I run Spyware Blaster, which has available Mozilla / Firefox protection but nothing for Opera. (I'm a bit of a security nut)

alb
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 9:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some features that (I believe) are unique to Opera:

- You can address a frame (subpart) of a page, with things like "get address" and "reload".

- When you exit Opera (or when your computer crashes or reboots), Opera will remember EVERY page you were on, complete with history, and go there. I currently have Opera loaded to 14 pages, and I've been on some of them for MONTHS.

- It can resize and entire page, to between 20% and 1000% of its normal size. When doing this, it resizes the IMAGES as well as the text.

- There are some useful keyboard commands so you don't have to use the mouse. Among them is a keystroke which will advance to the "next" page, as defined by a link with the text "next". You'd be surprised how useful this is.

- There are some useful "mouse gestures", useful when your hand is already on the mouse. E.g. sweep the mouse to the left while holding the first button down, and that is equivalent to hitting "back". I believe Mozilla has something equivalent.

I have tried Opera's email function, but it confused me. I'm happy with Mozilla Thunderbird for email.

Albatross, if you tell Opera to do google ads instead of their ads, you will find them far less obtrusive.

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