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just me fromsouthorange
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Username: Jmfromsorange

Post Number: 1027
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 2:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i know there is a simple answer to this but...

how do i save email from yahoo or hotmail to my hard drive? i would prefer not to save it as a text file. is there anyway to export the folders i already have set up?

thanks!
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 5160
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 3:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You upgrade your account to a paid account, which allows you to pull the messages with POP (post office protocol). All popular mail programs speak POP, such as Outlook, Outlook Express, Eudora, and Thunderbird. I recommend Thunderbird, which you can download for free from http://www.mozilla.org. Once you upgrade your account, Yahoo or Hotmail will give you instructions on how to download the mail.

The disadvantage to downloading is that once you pull it from the server, the only copy is now on your hard disk. You then cannot read it again from the web site. Consider that if you want to read your mail from more than one computer. In your mailer, there is an option that leaves mail on the server, but then you have to keep track of which messages you have read.

If you can, you may prefer to find a mail service that offers IMAP service. IMAP is like POP but it encourages you to leave your mail on the server and you can also download it. Services that offer IMAP are listed at http://www.imap.org. IMAP also allows you to make separate mail folders, which are all accessible from your PC mailer. You can only access your inbox from the server if your mail program is using POP.

If you need further clarification on any of the above, I can help.
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just me fromsouthorange
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Username: Jmfromsorange

Post Number: 1031
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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 10:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks tom for the information. i'll have to decide which to upgrade. i already have aol and a paid juno account.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 10:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

But it's not expensive. It's something like $15 a year.

Check out pobox.com. That's what I use. For $20 a year, they will forward to wherever you like. You can change the final address as often as you like, on their web page. If you want them to store your mail and to retrieve it from their server, it's a bit more. And they support IMAP. I don't think they provide webmail, though.
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woodstock
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Username: Woodstock

Post Number: 868
Registered: 9-2002


Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 10:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are programs called poppers that let you "pop" webmail services. Here's one for yahoo:

http://yahoopops.sourceforge.net/index.php

I haven't tried it, but sourceforge is a respected source of open source software (if you don't know what that means, don't worry about it).
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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa

Post Number: 1414
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 8:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You don't need to upgrade the email service from hotmail.
use the http server http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp
I'm pretty sure yahoo has an http server also.
Outlook express will walk you through setting both of them up.
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Brett
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Post Number: 1415
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Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 8:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Tom Reingold
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Post Number: 5174
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Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 10:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

woodstock, yahoopops looks very clever. Can you use it to access all of your yahoo folders? Can you leave mail on the server?

Here is an article advocating IMAP:

http://tinyurl.com/5kzbc

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woodstock
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Username: Woodstock

Post Number: 870
Registered: 9-2002


Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 11:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom,

I haven't used it - I tnd to keep my mail on the yahoo servers rather than downloading, since I use that account on the road, and prefer to have all my mail available whether I'm using my machine, or a client's.

Brett, I can't speak for Hotmail (though I've read in many places that POP access either has been or will very soon be eliminated), but to POP a Yahoo account, you need to upgrade to a premium account. (Yahoo Plus!)

As for IMAP, that's what my family, friends and I use on my server. I'm a huge fan, but you need to remember that you then do not have a local copy of it,and can't read email if you're not connected.
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Strings
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Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 11:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

just me - if you want to try gmail PL me. I have some invites available. They allow for 1,000 MB of storage. I love it and won't go back to an aol, hotmail, or yahoo account.
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 5177
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Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 12:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

woodstock, some IMAP mailers will download a copy of a folder so you can work offline. Thunderbird does this. In fact, I'd like to figure out how to tell Thunderbird NOT to do it, but it's currently a minor annoyance.
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woodstock
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Username: Woodstock

Post Number: 872
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Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 1:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom,

Interesting - I use Thunderbird and it doesn't do this. Check the Offline and Disk Space section of the Account Settings. Maybe uncheck "Make the messages in my inbox available when I am working offline" if it's checked...

Also, I'm not sure about IMAP, but when you set up a POP3 account, it asks if you want to use the Local Folders (Global Inbox) for saving mail. Perhaps when you set it up, you selected that (if it's available for IMAP)? Not sure...
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 1:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I only use IMAP. I have never used POP, with any mailer. Before using IMAP, I used unix-based mailers by logging into unix. I've been reading email since, uh, around 1985, but it took me until 2002 to use a PC-based mailer.
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woodstock
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Username: Woodstock

Post Number: 873
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Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 1:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ah, the days of pine and tin.
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Tom Reingold
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Post Number: 5182
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Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 1:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Neither. From 1985 to 1995, I used MH almost exclusively. In a way, it's even cruder than pine, because it's not a program you "enter". It's just a bunch of commands, but they are so well designed, you can build a great system with them. So several people did. In 1995 started using exmh, which is an X-windows front-end to MH.

I still miss it somewhat, but I found Netscape and Thunderbird are pretty good, especially with its handling of MIME and HTML.
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just me fromsouthorange
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Username: Jmfromsorange

Post Number: 1032
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Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 3:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks everyone for your responses. my head is spinning as i try to make sense of some of the terms.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 4:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We've really strayed. I suggest you try switching to gmail.com. I haven't used it, but the customers seem really happy.

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