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woodstock
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Post Number: 937
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Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 12:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hacker attacks on Apple Computer Inc.'s Macintosh OS X operating system, thought by many who use the Mac to be virtually immune to attack, are on the rise, according to a report from anti-virus software vendor Symantec Corp.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050323/tc_nm/tech_apple_dc
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Dave
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Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 4:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks more like Symantec is looking to sell software.
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monster
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Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 5:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Symantec really doesn't know OS X very well, and their software just messes up OS X.
If it were not for the fact that security on Windows computers is so bad, Symantec would be out of business.

Now about those "Hacker Attacks", every few months there's talk of a Mac virus or threat that always turns out to be nothing compared to the millions of infected windows 'zombies.

The threat of Mac malware is just that for the most part, a threat. Security in OS X is leaps and bounds ahead of anything MS can come up with.
While there are 37 vulnerabilities in Mac OS X, and I'm sure there will be more, they are far outnumbered by those in other operating systems.
On OS X, malware can't just be installed without your knowledge as it can on Windows, a user has to grant permission for the install. If the social engineering aspect of the malware is good enough, then I suppose a user may grant permissons for install, or someone can gain access to your machine, set down in your chair and install something.

I think Symantec knows that their Mac software sucks, and they are trying to sell more of it, maybe they even have a team working on creating malware, so that they can tout there software, which won't even remove malware, just let you know that you have it, and then tells you on it's website how to manually extract it yourself.

blah-blah-blah...

Can you say, hypothetical OS X vulnerabilities, hypothetical OS X vulnerabilities, hypothetical OS X vulnerabilities.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 5:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave, I disagree very strongly. MacOS is UNIX. UNIX is vulnerable. All OS's are vulnerable. The tricks are different. There are books, studies, and an employment field to securing UNIX and Linux. The 1988 Morris Worm, which took down the entire internet in November 1988 attacked UNIX systems.

It may be true that Symantec doesn't know how to write protective software for MacOS. That doesn't mean there's nothing to worry about or that bad guys won't find a way in. Once there is an incentive, they will.

Most commercial web sites still run UNIX. You've heard stories about them being hacked, right?
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monster
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Post Number: 676
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Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 6:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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