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Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13

Post Number: 883
Registered: 1-2004


Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 6:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not including Dave or Jamie, (but not counting them out) does anyone have experience building websites? I need someone to help me for a few minutes with one I'm building.

I'm pretty sure what I need to to involves a table within a table, but for some reason I can't figure out how to do this. What's driving me nuts is I've done it before, but can't remember how!!! I've already spent several hours driving myself crazy trying to figure it out.

I'm hoping I can just give you the url for what's already up, tell you what I want added, and you'll be able to explain it to me via email or phone.

Now that I think abot what I want to add is in a table as well. It's a picture with text below it and to more text to it's left. (I've already done that).

It's getting the two together! (side by side)
Thanks!
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 6287
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Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 7:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Check out The Bare Bones Guide to HTML
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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa

Post Number: 1605
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 8:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can PL me the link and I can help.

I created this site and many like it.
www.coreebusiness.com
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Just The Aunt
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Post Number: 885
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Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 11:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom-
Thanks for the link. I visited the site and don't understand it. I think part of the problem is there are no examples for me to see and I am having teouble visualizing what they are trying to say.

Brett-
You're site is exactly what I'm trying to do!!! I want to add somethink toward the lower right corner of the site. I'll PL you the url for the site as well as what I want to add (in a text file).

Did you use a book for your site or a tutorial from online?
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Brett
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Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 11:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I used 6+ years of software design, a masters from NJIT, and a host of employees, but a book isn't the worst idea.

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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 11:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I assumed you planned to build the website with html, but silly me, of course it makes sense to do it with a GUI which generates html. So never mind that.

When you're designing, you can avoid common design mistakes by reading http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com. He lists all kinds of sucky things web site builders do.
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Rick B
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Username: Ruck1977

Post Number: 619
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 12:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Tom! I am going to read this later with my fingers crossed!
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monster
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Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 1:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

of course you could always view the source code of a page that you like, and use it as a guide for yours.
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AlleyGater
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Post Number: 196
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 2:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just The Aunt: To do a table inside a table is very easy. Inside any <TD> tag just start a new <Table> tag.

Here is a quick example of a table inside a table.
<table>
<tr>
<td><table><tr><td>inside table</td></tr></table></td>
</tr>
</table>

I don't think you explained what you need well enough for me to do just do it for you here. But your explanation leads me to think that you don't actually need a table inside a table. It sounds like you could do it with 1 table, with two rows of two cells.

The top left cell would have text in it. The top right would have your picture. The bottom left would be empty and the bottom left would have text in it. Now without seeing what your doing it is hard for me to say whether this is the right solution for you. But I'll just give you the code for this cause it's so simple.

<table><tr><td>top left</td><td>top right</td></tr>
<tr><td>bottom left</td><td>bottom right</td></tr>
</table>

Now you can also try this trick just put an alignment info into your image tag. This will allow text to flow around the other two sides of your image. So for instance, if you were to do this:
<img src="picture.jpg" align="right"> then your image would be aligned on the right side of your cell (if it's in a table) so if your image is less wide than the cell width than you text will flow on the left hand side of your image. And if there is alot of text and your image isn't very tall then eventually the text will flow below your image.

Good Luck and feel free to PL me for more help.

As for advice for you, I would reccomend a WYSWYG editor. One where you can cut and paste your info into your layout. Where you can add and subtract and merge table cells without needing to look at the code. I don't know if you are on a Mac or PC but you could try using the Mozilla browser which works on most platforms and allows you to create web pages. It's not the best WYSWYG HTML editor but it would make short work of this problem that you are working on.

If you really do want to learn the inner working of HTML (which is really very easy so don't be intimidated by it at all) then http://www.webmonkey.com is as good of a start as any.

The specific answer to what you need is found here and has MANY visual examples. If your really want to learn tables you'll understand it after reading these articles.

http://webmonkey.wired.com/webmonkey/authoring/tables/

Good luck.
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 12:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Again Everyone for your suggestions! I just saw the newest ones. I did a webpage for a friend a few years ago www.littlebearsdaycare.com using 'How to Make a Webpage in AOL' which use note pad. Plus I had a bluebook, name forgotten, which I lent someone and never got back. I know where to steal, I mean borrow java script and even learned how to do a bunch of neat things. I usually have to refer back to books to know what I'm doing. There are lots of times I get stuck. I have no clue what I'm doing either.
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Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13

Post Number: 907
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Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 12:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

BTW I just checked the links for the LBDC site and realize one no longer works.. It's because the site I linked to moved. I'll correct that tomorrow.

An example of my getting confused, it is obvious from the LBDC site I know what an anchor tag is, copied how to make one from a book, but for some reason can't get it to work with the new (for something different) site I'm trying to do. :-O(

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