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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 7:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alleygater, I haven't been using the Mac much, but I think it's already safe to say that this is the best unix user interface.

One thing that keeps bugging me is that many web pages and apps don't let me "tab" through all the input areas. I have to use the mouse. Please tell me there's a fix for this. I try to avoid moving my hand from keyboard to mouse.
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 9:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom, do you have a webpage handy that won't let you tab through it's input fields?
In Mozilla for tab navigation (under preferences>advanced>keyboard navigation), one can select to be able to tab through links, and/or buttons-radio buttons-checkboxes-lists.
You can also set the pref for finding text and links as you type.

Which apps? have you tried using a modifier key with the tab button?

It seems I can remember some kind of app/utility that dealt with tabbing, but I'm drawing a blank at the moment.
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Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 10:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Chess that comes with Tiger doesn't announce check or checkmate. The game ends silently.

I couldn't resist. http://www.geeks.com was selling an original 233 MHz imac for $75. I bought one, not knowing what I'll do with it. I haven't even unwrapped it. It comes with Mac OS 8.6. Is there a Mac OS X that will work on the G3?

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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 10:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh, I was wrong. It does say "checkmate" but just not "check."
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Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 10:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom, I would go with Panther (10.3.9), make sure to max out the RAM, put in a larger HD if it hasn't been done already (128MB limit), partition it so that the first partition is 8 gigs (this is for the OS install, it has to be this way. If you are creating the partition within OS X, it must be 7.45 GB or smaller as reported by Disk Utility, because sometimes a GB is billion bytes and sometimes it's 1,073,741,824 bytes.), and above all else,

UPGRADE THE FIRMWARE FIRST

if you don't upgrade that firmware, you'll end up with a dead iMac (but good for a MacQuarium).

The iMac will need to be running at least OS 9.1 for the Firmware update I believe.

Firmware update chart, http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86117

Here's an article describing an iMac OS X install,
http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbart=07978
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 - 9:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does macos come bundled with image manipulation software? I want to crop and resize a jpg.

I did check before asking!
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Posted on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 - 9:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom.. use iPhoto. It's a great app, great for organizing your digital photo collection.
You can crop in preview too, but iPhoto offers lots more options.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 - 10:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can also install imagemagick if you enjoy command line ease.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 - 11:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You know just the way to a geeks heart don't ya' Dave, another app that I like (while not command line) is Graphic Converter, http://www.lemkesoft.com/en/graphcon.htm
Thorsten Lemke has created a fantastic image manipulation app, with every upgrade it just keeps getting better and better.
I'll put it on the disk.
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Posted on Thursday, December 8, 2005 - 11:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gimp is a very powerful image editing application that is free. It's no photoshop, but well...what is? Did I mention it's free...?

Go here: http://macupdate.com/
type in Gimp. Use macupdate to search for all applications. Type in Graphics or Photoshop and you will find TONS of free/shareware apps that might suit your needs.

Tom, I think I might have EXACTLY what you need. To solve your ANTI-MOUSE problem. Go to the System Preference panel, Choose the Keyboard and Mouse panel, Choose the Keyboard Shortcuts option, choose Full Access, and turn on ALL controls. Now you can control I THINK everything on your Mac using your keyboard. I assume the Tab key and the Space bar does it all for you, similarly to how a web browser can be controlled via the keyboard for most things. You can usually toggle on and off this Keyboard Access feature with the Control + F7 keystroke. So try pressing that first and see if it's configured to work for you. That should be the trick. You programmers and your fear of mice, I don't think I will ever understand it.

Happy keyboarding Tom!!! That's my Christmas present to you. :-)
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Posted on Thursday, December 8, 2005 - 11:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that's just what I told him on the 16th post
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Thursday, December 8, 2005 - 8:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A great big thank you to all three of you. Imagemagick, would you believe I've used that? I wrote some scripts which would take a bunch of jpegs and make thumbnail copies out of them to generate a web page. See? It's not so crazy to want to do stuff with commands.

I have to go back and read everything on this thread, because I have not been in front of my mac while I received many of the messages. The thing to make the tab key seems to have worked.

Alleygater, I have three reasons for not wanting to use the mouse.

First, it slows me down. I'm a fairly quick typist, and picking my hand up slows me down. When I have my hand on the mouse, I also don't want to move it to the keyboard. That's why I like Opera so much. I can do things like go back and forward with "mouse gestures" while my right hand is on the mouse. Meanwhile, most other web page navigation can be done with LETTER KEYS with my left hand.

Second, I have bad aim with the mouse. I often hit the wrong thing.

Third, I have chronic tendonitis in my right shoulder. It's embarrassing to say, but picking up my hand two inches for two seconds at a time exacerbates the problem, because my shoulder muscles are underdeveloped. I really need to lift some weights. But mousing is not adequate enough to build myself up. It just furthers the injuries.
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AlleyGater
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Posted on Thursday, December 8, 2005 - 10:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Monster, what do you want from me, to read every message? Actually, come to think of it, I did actually read that when you first posted it. I then forgot having read it. Then a few nights ago, I watched my programmer buddy using the keyboard like a complete nutter and I remembered that Tom wanted to do this too. So I asked him how to turn on the feature. So you beat me to it. Fine. I'll beat you to an answer eventually... you'll see.

I guess Tom I still owe you a virtual Christmas present.
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Posted on Friday, December 9, 2005 - 12:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've read a few posts here where you beat me and others to the answer, I just like to bug people.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 4:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I want to buy an external hard disk for backups.

1. What are the pros and cons of USB and Firewire? They seem to cost about the same, though I might get some very inexpensive USB drives on sale.

2. Does MacOS come bundled with backup software for using hard disks?
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Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 5:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I use Deja Vu for backups ($25)
http://www.propagandaprod.com/

Though tar is also on the system.
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Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 11:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom, by any chance, did you get a .mac account with your iMac? Apple gives .mac users a great backup app called, simply, Backup.
I bought a LaCie external Firewire 400/Firewire 800/USB2 drive.
I wanted the firewire 800 port, as it's much faster than USB2, which is slightly faster than firewire 400.
Your iMac only supports firewire 400, USB2 and USB, so unless you're planning on using a powerbook or a desktop Mac, a USB2 drive would probably be the way to go.
If you're going to add a pci card anyway, you might consider getting firewire 800 for its speed.
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Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 11:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, I didn't get a .mac account. It didn't seem worth it to me. And the storage there isn't that much. I'd want to save family pictures and the like. And the throughput can't be that wonderful, either.

I guess speed of a hard drive dedicated to backups isn't that important. And you're right, since USB is more ubiquitous, I'll go with that.

How can I add pci to an imac? And why would I?
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Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 2:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Backup Software

SuperDuper
Carbon Copy Cloner, check out the other software there too.
Silverkeeper


adding PCI card to an iMac

that's not the way they are designed

Unless,
On the original Bondi Blue iMac there was a Mezzanine slot (there is an adapter), read some about it here, http://www.applefritter.com/node/4363



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Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 3:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom, you can't add a PCI card into your iMac if Monster is right. As to why, well... you can do lots of things with PCI cards. I added a new hard drive controller on my old mac so I could access larger drives, you might want a better video card to play video games, as Bailey mentioned to add Firewire 800 functionality to a computer lacking it, and many other reasons all of which plug into the PCI bus. Most larger mac desktops have PCI card slots.

I would personally get a USB2 external HD if I was you. Cheaper (than Firewire) and plenty fast.

Retrospect isn't free, but it is VERY popular on the Mac, extremely powerful, easy to use and set up and I could be wrong but, I think it is relatively cheap (less than $50?).
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 3:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I never expected to be able to add a PCI card to a Mac. And USB is good enough for many things anyway.

I can probably whip up my own backup system, because it is, after all, unix. I can build it upon tar, as Dave points out.
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AlleyGater
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Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 5:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm sure you know this but... Just make sure it is USB2 not regular USB. Your Mac supports both. But regular USB would be a bad backup solution.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 5:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When you say regular USB, you mean USB 1.1, right? Yeah, 2.0 is faster. I'd be foolish to buy a USB 1.1 drive!

I just got an ipod and transferred some music to it over USB 2 on my Windows laptop. The speed was impressive.
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Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 4:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My cow-orker uses snapshot-style backups that he implements. His concepts and code were adapted from this page: http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/

If you don't know unix, this will be pretty meaningless to you.
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Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 11:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)




rsync is cool isn't it?
you do know that you'll probably be getting an email from someone who will have tried to do some unix stuff in the Terminal, and screwed everything up.

You might be interested in RsyncX, http://archive.macosxlabs.org/rsyncx/intro.html

RsyncX is an implementation of rsync with HFS+ support and configuration through a command line (Terminal) or graphical user interface. For full details on rsync, open a terminal window and enter 'man rsync'. This will introduce you to the theory behind the software. Once RsyncX is installed, be sure to read its included RsyncX_readme file, and all of the information provided here as well.

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