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TomD
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Post Number: 318
Registered: 5-2005


Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 9:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I came across this site today, http://mozy.com. Free, encrypted 2GB of online backups. It handles full and differential backups. You can control the encryption key.

I like it.

Sorry mac folks. XP only.
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Case
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Post Number: 607
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 10:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think its a phenomenal solution for small amounts of personal data.

Unfortunately for me, I would need approximately 2TB for a full system backup, so I'm stuck doing it myself.
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TomD
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Post Number: 321
Registered: 5-2005


Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 11:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

True, it's a great way to back up important documents (and spreadsheets and photos, etc.). But it won't backup anyone's full system.
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Rastro
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Post Number: 1758
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 2:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

spam spam spam spam,
spam spam spam spam,
Incredible spam!
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Tom Reingold
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Post Number: 10740
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 2:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you have a PC, you can use the Google Drive extension which turns your gmail mailbox into a virtual drive. They do this by creating messages behind the scenes and putting your files into attachments. 2.5 GB of free space per account, and no limit on the number of accounts.

If you don't run Windows, you can just mail yourself stuff. Or more simply, just compose a draft, attach a file to the draft, save the draft, and never send it.
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Earlster
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Post Number: 1381
Registered: 8-2003


Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 3:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What Rastro said. This is from their terms of service:


Quote:


FREE SERVICE; ADVERTISING EMAILS

You acknowledge and agree that Berkeley Data Systems may provide you with advertising and promotional material and other information from Berkeley Data Systems and on behalf of third parties via email. If you do not want to receive such material, you may elect not to do so, but you must immediately terminate your account and cease use of the Software and Service. This Agreement applies exclusively to Software and Service that are provided by Berkeley Data Systems without charge.

Please see the Berkeley Data Systems Privacy Policy, which is incorporated into this Agreement by reference.




Also they are collecting (non personal) data from your computer.
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upondaroof
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Post Number: 408
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 5:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I dunno. There's just something not quite right about backing up "your" stuff to "someone else's" computer.(IMHO) I like my ZIP for financial, personal and biz data and the burner for files that never change, such as pictures, movies, software, etc. I also use an external drive for larger changeable files and backups of the backups of the financial,personal and biz data.

You can never have too many backups.
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 10750
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 9:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I trust other people more than myself. The professionals use industrial grade computers, redundant disk arrays, uninterruptible power supplies, and all kinds of other things to prevent and mitigate disk crashes. I can guarantee you that gmail doesn't use USB disks from CompUSA.
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Dave
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 11:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone who trusts his data to mozy.com is a raving loony. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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monster
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Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 1:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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TomD
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Post Number: 322
Registered: 5-2005


Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 9:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, call me crazy, but they give you the option to encrypt the data with a private key of your own choosing.

The gmail drive thing (that Reingold mentioned) is great (I use a few of them with names like myemail.files@gmail.com and myemail.photos@gmail.com and {myemail}.programs@gmail.com...).

The gmail thing gets me offsite backups (though I am trusting Google with my data since I'm not encrypting it [and for all practical purposes can't since gmail has a 10mb file size limit]), but it doesn't give me incremental backups, which mozy does.

As far as the likelihood of spam...what am I going to do, give them my real email address? Come now. They get an email address I can check if I need to get a specific message (like a forgotten password), but not one I actually use. The service is ad supported. They have to make money somehow.

The "I wouldn't trust my data with so-and-so" argument is one that I've been hearing for years, ever since I worked at a startup that wanted to host the software we were selling. Back when SOA was called ASP. Companies would come in and say, hey we love the software, but we have to host it ourselves. It was such a shortsighted way to see things. Those same companies now are outsourcing the control of that data and looking for companies to manage it for them. Salesforce.com has played a big role in that transition. In the future {I sound like a Talking Heads album [In the future, women will have breasts all over. In the future, it will be a relief to find a place without culture. In the future, plates of food will have names and titles. In the future, we will all drive standing up. In the future, love will be taught on television and by listening to pop songs.]) data is going to live on the network (see, Microsoft Office Live, Salesforce.com. etc.). You having the only copy of your data is going to seem quaint in a few years, like a PC without a network connection.
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Case
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Post Number: 616
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 12:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Agreed. Off site backup is a HUGE benefit, one that I need to investigate early next year. I've got a 1:1 backup system here on multiple servers, but still - its all in the same house, you know?

I just can't seem to cost justify the huge drives and then ship them elsewhere - I'm cheap.

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upondaroof
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Post Number: 413
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Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 8:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As I said above:"I dunno. There's just something not quite right about backing up "your" stuff to "someone else's" computer.(IMHO)"


http://www.optonline.net/News/Article/Feeds?CID=type%3Dxml%26channel%3D32%26arti cle%3D16372137
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Gatica
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Registered: 11-2002


Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 4:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

up, I second that... I am paranoid about that kind of stuff. So what if you "create your own key." I believe that the service has created the encryption algorithm, so, they probably have a master key to open up anything. If not, you know it is bound to be hacked. Looked at all these "super secure" credit sites that have been exploited already.

I'd rather take my chances and back up my data myself.

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