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Eire
Citizen
Username: Eire
Post Number: 94
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 1:33 pm: |     |
I don't think I said that right...
I just got a shuffle - my partner has a mini - I haven't set mine up yet, but once I do, can I get songs that she's bought from itunes onto my shuffle?
This may be a totally ignorant question, since I haven't even started yet, and the answer may be apparent, but it just seems like apple would probably love it if we paid for some of the same songs twice!! |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 11862
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 2:23 pm: | |
Not only for profits, but remember, the artists expect a royalty for each sale, and I don't blame them for that. So Apple made it easy to put stuff onto an ipod but give no way to get stuff offf it. But there is freeware that allows you to do this. I haven't tried any yet, but my daughter tells me she uses something called "ipod disk" which turns the ipod into a virtual disk. Drag from the virtual disk into a fresh playlist in itunes which will then let you copy to the ipod.
I think I'll be doing this soon, since an ipod does crash occasionally, and I'll be really annoyed if I have to load it again. So I want to do backups of the ipod to my computer.
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monster
Supporter
Username: Monster
Post Number: 1856
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 2:57 pm: | |
Take your pick
Mac: http://www.versiontracker.com/php/search.php?PHPSESSID=5c8859907eade7cfc1e2a3fe4 4e977b5&mode=basic&action=search&str=ipod+&plt%5B%5D=macosx&x=0&y=0
Windows: http://www.versiontracker.com/php/search.php?mode=basic&action=search&str=ipod&p lt%5B%5D=windows&x=0&y=0 |
JMF
Citizen
Username: Jmf
Post Number: 215
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 3:02 pm: | |
Are you using the same computer? |
Eire
Citizen
Username: Eire
Post Number: 95
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 4:20 pm: | |
yeah - same computer. You really can't remove stuff from an ipod?? That's crazy!! |
Eire
Citizen
Username: Eire
Post Number: 96
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 4:21 pm: | |
I guess my response to the artist's royalties - I understand the frustration, given all the piracy, etc., but if I bought a cd, everyone in my house could use that cd, and borrow it to put in their walkman or whatever. We share a computer, but will pay twice for the same song? That doesn't seem right, either, no?? |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 11871
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 4:26 pm: | |
Agree, Eire. But when I have a copy and my wife has a copy and we're listening simultaneously in our respective cars, we may have crossed the line of intent of copyright law.
I stand in the middle of the debate. I think artists should get their due, but I also see that pirating some music often introduces you to stuff which leads you to buy it later. The music industry denies that latter point, which is their current downfall.
There ought to be a middle ground where some borring, copying, pirating, whatever you call it, is allowed. I don't know how that would be implemented. And of course, the law has a lot of trouble keeping up with technology.
You can remove stuff from an ipod easily. You can't copy from it easily, using the standard tools. I don't like it, but I understand it.
I've been a Palm user for almost nine years. The sync process is very clever. I drop the Palm into its cradle and press the sync button. New stuff on the Palm copies to the computer; new stuff on the computer copies to the Palm. When it's done, I know they both contain exactly the same data. I'd love to have that with the ipod, and I suspect I won't have that for a while.
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JMF
Citizen
Username: Jmf
Post Number: 217
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 4:36 pm: | |
"yeah - same computer. You really can't remove stuff from an ipod?? That's crazy!!"
Since you are using the same computer, you can get songs from that computer to both iPods.
Am I missing something?
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Bailey
Citizen
Username: Baileymac
Post Number: 139
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 10:16 pm: | |
I'm with JMF here.. unless we're missing something.
iTunes will allow users to make multiple copies of purchased music, and will allow you to authorize multiple computers to play purchased music too.
JMF - do you have two iPods synched with your computer?
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AlleyGater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1063
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 10:25 pm: | |
What you are trying to do Eire is legal, don't listen to Tom this time. The license you get when you buy a song on the apple site allows for you to put your legally bought songs on multiple devices and multiple computers. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 11881
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 10:37 pm: | |
I'm glad to hear I'm wrong in this case, because I think copying it could be considered "fair use."
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AlleyGater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1064
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 10:51 pm: | |
ITunes Usage Rules from this page: http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/legal/terms.html
Your use of the Products is conditioned upon your prior acceptance of the terms of this Agreement.
You shall be authorized to use the Products only for personal, noncommercial use.
You shall be authorized to use the Products on five Apple-authorized devices at any time.
You shall be entitled to export, burn (if applicable) or copy Products solely for personal, noncommercial use. You shall not be entitled to burn Video Products.
You shall be authorized to burn an audio playlist up to seven times.
You shall be able to store Products from up to five different Accounts on certain devices, such as an iPod, at a time.
Any burning (if applicable) or exporting capabilities are solely an accommodation to you and shall not constitute a grant or waiver (or other limitation or implication) of any rights of the copyright owners in any audio or video content, sound recording, underlying musical composition, or artwork embodied in any Product.
You agree that you will not attempt to, or encourage or assist any other person to, circumvent or modify any security technology or software that is part of the Service or used to administer the Usage Rules.
The delivery of Products does not transfer to you any commercial or promotional use rights in the Products. |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 3558
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 11:11 pm: | |
There IS a way to do this! I bought the book 'The iPod & iTunes Pocket Guide by Christopher Breen. In this book it tells you, among other things, how to get the music from one iPod to another. Haven't tried it yet though. Plan to tomorrow. |
JMF
Citizen
Username: Jmf
Post Number: 218
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 8:00 am: | |
"JMF - do you have two iPods synched with your computer? "
Yes I do... actually I have had three syncing with one computer. |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 3565
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 8:59 am: | |
From what I understand, and I'm by no means an expert on iPods, I thought I remember reading on one of the iPod sites if you have the music on the master iTunes playlist it can be put on different iPods.
If you 'bought' it from iTunes I think you can have the music on up to five items. I'm wondering how they can determine if after burning a song on a CD you make more then five copies? |
Eire
Citizen
Username: Eire
Post Number: 97
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 9:07 am: | |
Great, guys!! Thanks so much - I just have to figure out how to do it - |
JMF
Citizen
Username: Jmf
Post Number: 220
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 11:32 am: | |
"From what I understand, and I'm by no means an expert on iPods, I thought I remember reading on one of the iPod sites if you have the music on the master iTunes playlist it can be put on different iPods. "
Correct.
"If you 'bought' it from iTunes I think you can have the music on up to five items. I'm wondering how they can determine if after burning a song on a CD you make more then five copies?"
They can't keep track. Once you burn it as an audio CD, the DRM is no longer part of the new file on the CD. |
Eire
Citizen
Username: Eire
Post Number: 98
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 1:13 pm: | |
Can you really burn itunes onto a cd? I had no idea... |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 11893
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 1:19 pm: | |
Yes, you really can. 
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JMF
Citizen
Username: Jmf
Post Number: 222
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 1:22 pm: | |
lol... |
wnb
Citizen
Username: Wnb
Post Number: 311
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 3:36 pm: | |
Just not too many times. I believe the limit is 5 times.
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JMF
Citizen
Username: Jmf
Post Number: 223
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 6:18 pm: | |
wnb,
actually, you can burn a playlist 5 times.
Just create a new playlist after you burn it 5 times. You can burn all you want. |
chrisd
Citizen
Username: Chrisd
Post Number: 129
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 3:00 pm: | |
WSJ's Mossberg wrote a very useful column on this very topic today. Check it out. |
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