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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1066
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, June 3, 2006 - 12:23 am: | 
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Nice work! Keep it up! Get that bike out of the garage now that its nice out and hit those montrose hills. That's where i go to do my laps..uphill downhill uphill downhill again. |
mem
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Username: Mem
Post Number: 6250
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 3, 2006 - 12:34 am: |
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Thanks Glock! |
justmelaura
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Username: Justmelaura
Post Number: 589
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 3, 2006 - 12:52 am: |
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Hey Mem, get rid of the gross food for goodness sake. Let's drop some poundage together. I will supply the food that will drop weight and keep us satisfied. Speaking of being satisfied, let's go out dancing with wonderful Latin men. I know of many places that teach dance and have social dancing. So way much more fun than yoga or running.
Bets, MeAndTheBoys are extremely invited.
I am commited to losing 20 pds. |
bets
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Username: Bets
Post Number: 23229
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 3, 2006 - 1:10 am: |
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I need to lose at least 40. Fifty would be ideal. I have lost a coupla pounds since single-life took over (but gained a few inches in height since I cut my hair,right mem?) but I would love to have help and encouragement. Lets get las, greenie, alg, pippi, vig, (I could go on and on and on but let's say each and every one of you) involved. I think I want to start a lap swimming group this summer. Anyone interested?
And thank you, tiki-JML, for being you. I think we might have been sisters in a past life (and I feel that about several MOL friends over these years). Hopefully, I'm not being TOO sappy. I'm going to bed now. The rhythmic sound of the rain is lulling me to sleep.
Good night, SO-MOL. |
Soparents
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Username: Soparents
Post Number: 679
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, June 3, 2006 - 2:44 am: |
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I am starting a diet on Monday. I need to. I have to shed about 30lbs, a good chunk of that by about June 20th when Hubby has an event on the World Yacht and I need to be "dressed up"...
Yup, I know, it's not going to happen by June 20th, but I need to start somewhere!
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red
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Username: Redy67
Post Number: 5632
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, June 3, 2006 - 9:08 am: |
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Wow mem that is fabulous!! I need to drop 20 and I'll be happy. It is funny how it used to be only five, then ten, well, just keeps on going.... |
mtierney
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Username: Mtierney
Post Number: 938
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 5, 2006 - 4:41 pm: |
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Mem, you should have put this thread on the incredible shrinking people post since that once-disappearing site is now always on view (below soapbox)
Anyhow, there are some good tips there. I truly don't think anyone needs to buy prepacked food, but whatever floats your boat....
As I recounted on the "incredible" site, I have lost some 50 pounds over the past 13 months - no quick loss tips from me.
I view your efforts to drop 10 pounds to what I see as an anorexic level of 118, and I am in awe. Actually, I no longer tell people who know me how much I've lost when they ask. I can see them calculating just how fat I was before! I just mumble, yes, I've lost weight!
Most pressing question today is: Does anyone know how not to gain weight on a cruise? The next two weeks will see whether I return 15 pounds fatter - or, hopefully, at the same weight as today. Obviously that would be considered as a success by me, as I don't believe it possible to lose weight on vacation. OK, I know about walking, etc. aboard ship. There will be a lot of off ship excursions which should provide exercise. It's those three meals a day that worry me. Should I go vegetarian in the hopes that will help? I know that buffets present mega temptations.
What I did to drop the flab up to now was to increase fibre, go whole grain wherever possible, reduce size of portions and NO second helpings. Also desserts were of the low cal variety only
What scares me is the prospect of reading all those menu offerings every day — while not having to worry about shopping for and preparing all those healthy meals myself. Any dietary tips? |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 7934
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 5, 2006 - 4:54 pm: |
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Cruise (it's been a few years, but here goes):
1. Don't go to the midnight buffet. It's really just a marketing gimic after all, isn't it? Besides, buffets are how they get rid of left overs.
2. Walk. Walk, walk, walk. All over the ship.
3. Remind yourself that it may sound good and it may look devine. It may even taste heavenly. But, unless it's some exotic food that you can't get/make at home, is it really worth it? Will your life be meaningless if you have grilled chicken instead of steak au povre?
It's just food. If you decide to splurge, do it on something worth it. Otherwise, you can always treat yourself to the same dish in a couple weeks, after you get home and plan for the calories. |
mem
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Username: Mem
Post Number: 6260
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 5, 2006 - 5:32 pm: |
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Nutrisystem is sending UPS to pick up their food tomorrow. That was easy.
Today I weigh 124.
Breakfast: One cup of pomegranate kefir with a handful of blueberries
Lunch: Mixed greens, fat free dressing and tiny scoop of tuna fish with four saltine crackers
Dinner: I think Lean cuisine or a chicken breast with some veggies.
I am very cranky, but it's not the diet. I absolutely loathe my job right now. I don't even feel like eating. I am waiting to see if Laura will let me in her Tiki Hut tonight. I need that. |
Virtual It Girl
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Username: Shh
Post Number: 4546
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 5, 2006 - 6:33 pm: |
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MTierney, I can tell you going vegetarian will not help you NOT gain weight on a cruise!
A few years ago we cruised Royal Caribbean, a weekend cruise from Miami. We had 2 young kids at the time so we never went to the midnight buffets, and I still gained 5 lbs! FWIW, I am very small boned (according to you below anorexic weight, though I am not) and I ate healthily, but did eat a little dessert, probably at each meal.
OUr last cruise was a Carnival Cruise and the food didn't thrill me as much, I don't know if I gained weight but we walked a lot.
This summer we cruise RC again. If the food is good, I will certainly try everything, but I found the portions are pretty small. (Thank goodness.)
I don't know about you, but we don't regularly have 4 course meals here!
As you know, to not gain weight you have to burn more calories than you take in, so if you're on a big boat, take the steps, don't take the elevator, and do lots of walking. The thing I hate MOST about cruises is the lines for the elevators! With young ones, sometimnes we had to take the elevators but if your feet can take you there take the steps! Then eat your lobster bisque & chocolate souffle guilt-free!
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mem
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Username: Mem
Post Number: 6269
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 5, 2006 - 11:03 pm: |
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MT,
Avoid cruises if you are trying to lose weight. I cruised Alaska twice, the food was so good I couldn't stop eating it. And it was everywhere, because good cruise food is cheap word of mouth advertising.
However, a bad cruise can be worse. I cruised to Bermuda on the original "Love Boat" (it was a ridiculously cheap getaway). It was so horrifyingly outdated and scary, and the food was very awful, but it was so fattening I gained weight even though I barely ate it.
So, the only solution I can offer is to do the excursions and stay away from those buffets. Also, stay on deck as much as possible so you don't smell the food. A lounge chair with a bottle of low cal vodka or grab an outdoor hot tub - just don't pass out in it.
I hope you have a great vacation. 
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justmelaura
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Username: Justmelaura
Post Number: 608
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 5, 2006 - 11:54 pm: |
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Mem, sorry I couldn't open the Tiki Bar tonight. Hopefully Wed, but of course I am furiously working on an event that I am catering this Weekend for the WhatExit Theater (shameless plug)
http://www.whatexittheatre.com/
Anyone who comes from MOL is graciously invited to a private night in the Tiki Bar. |
mem
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Username: Mem
Post Number: 6274
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 12:27 am: |
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Laura,
Shameless plug indeed - your food is absolutely the best I ever had.
VIG - Small bones is a curse - you CANNOT hide the weight anywhere! Everyone here thinks I am so brave posting my weight - hello - I am 5' 2" with bird bones and when I gain weight there is nowhere to hide it and when people say, "oh - you look "puffy" - allergies?"
No - it's doritos and sour cream, thanks!
It's such high maintenance.
Laura,
Any cleomes left please?
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justmelaura
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Username: Justmelaura
Post Number: 613
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 1:03 am: |
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If Greenetree didn't take them all! But, yes I am sure there are tons. Actually, I have some on my planting table that I was holding onto...
Ok, I am 5' 3" and pushing 150 pds. I have a love/hate thing going with menopause. I was always at my most 110 pds. I would be happy to be 125, Mem. Let's take dancing lessons together. |
Cynicalgirl
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Username: Cynicalgirl
Post Number: 2832
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 6:28 am: |
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Menopause is a drag in this regard. I almost immediately became tubular in middle, as if chronically 3 mos pregnant. Previously, I'd been a person who always had a small waist, proportionately. No more. Very tough to fight the uphill battle against nature/hormones. Same level of exercise and/or dieting doesn't yield same result. YECH. I'm 5'9, and I am NOT going to say what I weight. |
Virtual It Girl
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Username: Shh
Post Number: 4551
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 7:13 am: |
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Mem, larger boned people might disagree! FWIW, I think you look nicely petite, not sure what your weight was last summer—when we met—though...
Besides, sounds like you're down a few already, just by being sensible. |
Glock 17
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Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1081
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 1:41 pm: |
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I'm 6'3" 157Lbs. and trying to get up to around 180.
Gotta' love that 12,000+ calorie daily diet.
Just pulled the bike out of the garage to go hit some hills, cya! |
LazyDog
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Username: Lazydog
Post Number: 279
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 5:14 pm: |
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Mem, I've been fortunate enough to meet you a couple of times...you DO NOT need to lose weight ! |
MeAndTheBoys
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Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 3932
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 8:56 pm: |
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My 2 cents mem, since you've sent the food back: Weight Watchers all the way.
I had great success (lost 15 pounds after #2--then came #3) and learned a whole lot about how to eat sensibly--and eat regular every day food--when I had the time to go to meetings. And believe me when I say, I am not a "joiner," not a "cheerleader" type. But the meetings are great. If you're looking for "help and encouragement," as bets is, this is the place to go. And they will teach you all kinds of coping strategies for situations like your company awards dinner, cruises, holiday meals, etc. There are even guidelines (and point values) for liquor.
I only know about the meetings and the "leader" in Maplewood, so I can't vouch for others, but it seems the program is the most sensible around. And it stays with you for life once it's become habit. I bet there's a meeting near where everyone works, if you just look it up.
Some things I learned:
Definately exercise, and while the yoga and pilates are great for stretching, toning and strengthening, you really must add some cardio of at least a medium intensity. 30 minutes at least 3 days a week? More would be better.
Look for low fat, high fiber foods. The more fiber the lower the points (as per WW points system).
Fruits, vegetables and water! The more you are able to consume the better. And just about all vegetables are "free" in points value. Really, on Weight Watchers there's no need to starve yourself. In fact I sometimes found the meals I was having were more than I would normally eat.
Soups are really great. They must be broth or water based though. And the more veggies and legumes they have the better off you'll be.
It's better to eat 4 sensible "meals" a day. I generally try to have 2 lunches. Something around 11:00 like fruit and low-fat cottage cheese, and then something like turkey on whole-wheat (no mayo, but I do enjoy it with nice ripe avocado) with a side of veggies of some sort at around 2 or 3. Then light on dinner.
Now, if I could only "walk the walk" and stay the hell away from the chocolate, maybe I'd get a start on getting rid of the 30 or so pounds I have to lose!  |
Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14616
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 9:21 pm: |
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Slimfast is pure dreck. Look at the ingredients. It differs from a CHOCOLATE BAR only in that it has a little cellulose in it. Oh, and a few other scary chemicals. The idea is that you eat Slimfast and nothing else. Well, yeah, if you can stick to that, you might lose weight, but who will?
I used to be one of those "eat whatever you like and not ever gain a pound" people. I'm slowly gaining weight but don't have good habits. My weight doesn't show, so no one can believe what I weigh when I tell them.
Consider hiring a private chef, for just a few meals a week. You'll eat really well. Sara Markel, here in Maplewood, just finished culinary school and sends a weekly email with the stuff she's cooking. She would probably be willing to do other stuff for you. You can contact her at soup@forkintheroadnj.com. I have no personal interest in her business and I'm not even a customer yet, but I expect I will be one day.
I saw my ex-wife's cousin recently and she thanked me for the diet I gave her several years ago. She lost 25 pounds. I had no idea what she was talking about. Apparently, I made something up, and she took it seriously, and it worked. I said eat a sensible portion of sensible food, and after each meal, it a tiny square of Lindt chocolate. I think dark chocolate gives more pleasure per calorie than anything. It has to be very high quality, because it will leave you content enough not to have too much of it.
If you're going to count calories, be sure to count your drinks' calories. Alcohol has a zillion calories in every sip.
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bets
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Username: Bets
Post Number: 23277
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 10:50 pm: |
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I would love to find exercise/walking/swimming buddies. I think I eat pretty sensibly, although I always convince myself mentally of that when I order (big batch of steak nachos supreme from Big Sky Burrito in Madison, baby! luckily the stains came out of my shirt) lunch every day.
I think swimming is my cardiac best but I have a problem with how I look in a bathing suit.
I'm so glad I got that out! Sorry, Tom, that it had to be your 'blog. I'll try for a lighter tone next time I post.
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bets
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Username: Bets
Post Number: 23279
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 11:10 pm: |
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Sigh. It's like walking into a drawer that's left open: you curse and carry on and forget it can leave a good-size bruise.
mem, I wouldn't blame you if you banished me, but I hope you won't!
Tom: this is not your blog nor am I your cow-orker. Please stop making me confess!
arrrggh! |
cecilia david
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Username: Ceciliadav569
Post Number: 20
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 - 2:43 pm: |
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I went on one of those Caribbean cruises. I did not gain any weight. I never went to the midnight buffet and just because the food was out did not mean I headed for a dining room. I also made use of the gym almost every day that I was on the ship. There is also just lots of stuff to do that does not involve eating. So have a good time. cecilia |
Glock 17
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Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1084
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 - 4:39 pm: |
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Bets, as I said before. Cycling is amazing cardio. Even if you get a fixed bike and stick it in front of a TV in one of the rooms. |
las
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Username: Las
Post Number: 1830
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 - 7:25 pm: |
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I'm catching up here:
RED: If you need to drop 20 pounds you need a body image therapist more than a diet. That said, why don't we actually go for a run before we "go for a run" this Saturday?
BETS: I will go swimming with you, or join whatever buddy/club you are thinking of forming. We can discuss it on [see below]....
LAURA & MEM: ...Friday at the shamelessly plugged What Exit Theater event, or later at the Tiki Bar.
MEM: Thursday 7 pm run?
GLOCK: I am a superlative eater and a champion weight gainer. Let me know if you need help with your weight gain regimen. |
red
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Username: Redy67
Post Number: 5750
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 7:33 pm: |
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las I love you I may not look like I need to drop...but I do. My ideal weight should be 103 (according to the Doctor), that said, if I dropped 20 I wouldn't even be at that weight....
And darnit, we missed our run  |
mem
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Username: Mem
Post Number: 6327
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 3:23 pm: |
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I STILL weigh 124.
Do I need to start smoking crack to lose weight? |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8060
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 4:16 pm: |
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I hate to say it, but perhaps Tiki-activity is the problem. Mojitos et. al. are quite caloric. Try alternating each drink with water if you don't want to cut alcohol out completely. Or walking to/from the Tiki bar. That would be about 3 miles R/T, no? And the weaving as you stumble home would probably burn more calories.
I've found that by replacing half of my daily chocolate consumption with fruit, I've dropped a few more pounds. |
Soparents
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Username: Soparents
Post Number: 1047
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 8:41 pm: |
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Hey, i've just remembered, you weigh next to nothing...... I think i'll make you beef stew and dumplings followed by spotted dick (yes there is such a pudding/dessert)
That will have you pack on the poundage!!!
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red
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Username: Redy67
Post Number: 5841
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 10:48 pm: |
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I just want to know who would name something spotted dick.....
mem--for your weight loss what kind of excersing (sp? I can never get that right) are you doing? If you can do fourty-five minutes of cardio five times a week that will help. Also lift weights. The more muscle you have the quicker you burn fat. (although your weight goes up since muscle is heavier than fat) |
Paper Bag Bandit
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Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1210
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 8:03 pm: |
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High Life accounts for a 3rd of my 12K calorie diet. 
Just KIDDING!
...but not really |
mtierney
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Username: Mtierney
Post Number: 941
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 12:39 pm: |
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Back from our cruise - and two pounds lighter!
It had to be the two miles a day on deck and all the other walking done on land. I tried to avoid the obvious - dessert after breakfast, etc., but really enjoyed the meals. Selecting food to eat without having to shop, cook, etc. for 15 days is great.
Now, back on land, we'll see. It's so hot, walking doesn't appeal to me. Soon swimming will be an option, of course. |
mem
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Username: Mem
Post Number: 6393
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 8:09 pm: |
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I have to change the name of this blog to "Mem's Weight Gain Blog'
125 lbs. I'm a blimp. I think I'm getting cleavage as well.
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Wendy
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Username: Wendy
Post Number: 2637
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 8:22 pm: |
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Cleavage located where?????? you barfly. It's either where I think you mean, or in your gut (beer belly doncha know) or in the place where you love those hot rocks. So until I'm further educated I remain, as I usually am, in the dark. |
mem
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Username: Mem
Post Number: 6396
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 8:27 pm: |
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Wendy my friend, I am getting cleavage in all the wrong places. I'm going to start smoking crack - anyone know where I can find some? |
bets
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Username: Bets
Post Number: 23372
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 8:29 pm: |
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The boozehound crackhead weightwatcher with cleavage.
Got to love that! |
Soparents
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Username: Soparents
Post Number: 1440
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 8:43 pm: |
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mem, I hear that monster had some smelly crack going on - not sure if that's what you're after
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las
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Username: Las
Post Number: 1917
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 8:48 pm: |
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Anyone want to go for a run tomorrow morning? Early - get up like it's a work day.
It doesn't have to be a run, it can be a run/walk or just a walk. It just has to happen.
Anyone? |
red
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Username: Redy67
Post Number: 5970
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 8:55 pm: |
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you do mean running, not the gate right? |
las
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Username: Las
Post Number: 1919
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 8:59 pm: |
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Insightful question, Red.
This run would NOT entail resting your feet on the stool crossbar, rather, using bipedal locomotion in an effort to burn a calorie and decrease self-loathing. Then we go to the Gate. |
red
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Username: Redy67
Post Number: 5976
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 9:05 pm: |
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Sounds perfect if I were there we do need to go running again. Are you going to mem's tomorrow? I am back around 11:00.... |
las
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Username: Las
Post Number: 1922
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 9:07 pm: |
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11 what? am? |
bets
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Username: Bets
Post Number: 23374
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 9:11 pm: |
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Is that "early get up like it's a work day!" time? |
red
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Username: Redy67
Post Number: 5980
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 9:12 pm: |
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No 11:00 p.m. I am flying into Phili 9ish, than driving home. Flights were cheap, airport s*cks, never again. I am ending up paying more because of where I had to park..... |
Wendy
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Username: Wendy
Post Number: 2638
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 9:13 pm: |
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I can and will get up early for a run. Then I have to go to synagogue (after I drop off my son for a baseball game if it isn't rained out) because I actually am reading from the Torah. So are we talking 7:30/8:00? Let me know. |
Wendy
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Username: Wendy
Post Number: 2639
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 9:14 pm: |
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What's happening at Mem's tomorrow and as I said when I heard my parents discussing what they were going to do on Lincoln's birthday, WHY WASN'T I INVITED????? |
las
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Username: Las
Post Number: 1923
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 9:15 pm: |
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No, dear. How about 7 am? Need a wakeup call? Because I'll call you.
(Refer to: bets' comment seeking someone to exercise with:
http://www.southorangevillage.com/cgi-bin/show.cgi?tpc=3365&post=621588#POST6215 88) |
las
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Username: Las
Post Number: 1924
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 9:16 pm: |
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Wendy, yes.
Anyone else? |
red
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Username: Redy67
Post Number: 5983
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 9:17 pm: |
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Wendy--look under Virtual Cafe, all are invited |
bets
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Username: Bets
Post Number: 23376
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 9:18 pm: |
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Because you did not pay attention. If you did, you would have seen /discus/messages/10210/120340.html?1151111742 and known you are a classy lady. |
Wendy
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Username: Wendy
Post Number: 2640
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 9:27 pm: |
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OK, I won't act like a three-year old (my default position, btw). Yes dear las and bets. I will see you both very early tomorrow. And hopefully I will see you both very late tomorrow as well. Las I got your email and responded back.
Wendy |
Virtual It Girl
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Username: Shh
Post Number: 4666
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 9:31 pm: |
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Man, I wish I could go. Mr. Vig is leaving for work at 4:30 am. That's probably too early, right? |
red
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Username: Redy67
Post Number: 5986
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 9:35 pm: |
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VIG--just put the girls in the basement, lock the doors and go...I see it on the news all the time.. |
Wendy
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Username: Wendy
Post Number: 2642
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 9:37 pm: |
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red, |
mem
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Username: Mem
Post Number: 6424
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 2:26 pm: |
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I am having a barbq Sunday. Hot dogs, hamburgers, corn, wine, etc. All of it fattening. PL me if you want to come over - around 7 ish... |
