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extuscan
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Post Number: 591
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 1:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Clinton School-

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extuscan
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Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 1:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Montrose (only school in M/SO retaining its original windows)



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extuscan
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Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 1:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CHS- Its hard to read the floorplan because images have to be 800 px or narrower but its really pretty neat to read what some rooms were used for. Going clockwise from the lower left hand corner is a sewing room with fitting room, domestic science, a dining room, and two classrooms. Along the back hall was a book storage room where the passage into C-wing is now, and an elevator where the more recent one is. The "Boys Gym" has space for a "Caterer". On either side of the pool is bos and girls locker rooms, with a laundry room centralized behind it (the double wooden doors in the back hallways with no door handles were originally the entrance, but you can see in the broken part of the door this was bricked up) In the far right back corner was the automobile shop. The current guidance offices were a "manual training" room, including seperate assembly and finising rooms.

The current conference room with a fireplace was the womens teachers room, and originally had a locker room of its own. The front hallway originally had the board of education where the current offices are, including a board room, large vault, a room for four stenographers, Sup't office, bookkeepers room, and another office. To the right of the front door was the principals office, a clerical office for 5, and another vault. The inner ring has seperate boys and girls locker rooms which connected to the bathrooms. The left light court shows the location of the organ blower. To the right of the stage there are a pair of dressing rooms, a small bathroom (still there). The nurses office remains where it always has, but once had room for a doctor and a dentist.

What was until recently the switchboard room was once book storage. The remaining space on the left hand of the auditorium was a large study hall seating 120. The auditorium sat 1277. The stage measures 25'x68'.





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Shanabana
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Post Number: 161
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 2:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What, is this some kind of terrorist sleeper cel site?
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kmk
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Post Number: 943
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Extuscan,

What book did you get these images from?
I have quite a few architectural periodicals from the 20's and I am just curious to know - maybe I have them too!
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extuscan
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Post Number: 594
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Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think these were out of "Architecture" May 1932, but I went through a ton of bound periodicals Saturday morning... so there was also stuff in American School and College, and then there were a few books too. This was just at the UNH library so I think if I went to a library for a school more focused on architecture, or closer to NJ, I could find more on him... Google Book is awesome, but they don't have much from periodicals and these old periodicals aren't very well indexed. You almost have to flip through them and hope to recognize something.
Surely some firm absorbed Guilbert and Betelle or, his papers went somewhere... some library collection, or in his daughters basement... I think there is alot to find out!
-John
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kmk
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Post Number: 944
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Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 2:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow...simply Wow!

I have mostly "House and Garden"'s that have been compiled into library bindings.

I still haven't found our Maplewood Tudor in photos but I have found so many other tudors with the exact detailing that I know I am hot on the trail of our builder/architect.

I have tried to hunt down old architectural firms as well. The old phone books are a starting place but the trail does often run cold... It makes me think of many of my old drawings (and the drawings still being made by my husband's entire firm).

I guess they just end up in the waste bin...

Sigh.
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extuscan
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Post Number: 596
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Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 7:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

These are from American School and Building




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Frederick Schmid
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 3-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 1:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looking at Clinton School, I went there in the 40s and early 50s. There were more classrooms in the back on both sides and the second floor was finished. When were these additions constructed. When I was going to school there the Board of Education used two classrooms for offices and a third for a major conference room.
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compsy
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Post Number: 225
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Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

These are GREAT!
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Steve Weintraub
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Tuesday, July 4, 2006 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let's take a look at the typefaces used on some of the schools. My sampling is small, I hope to get back and get these details off the other grade schools. But just with this, it's clear to see the trend towards simpler, less ornate designs as the schools get younger.

Columbia uses two variants of a Lombardic-derived blackletter (or "Gothic") font. The medallions read, from left to right, "art literature commerce science ethics health history mathematics". The text of the school's name is a slightly less stylized version, certainly to be more legible at distance:
chs-entrance

Montrose opts for a more typical blackletter or "Gothic" upper/lowercase configuration:
montrose

Jefferson uses a slightly Celtic-derived blackletter, but is much simpler, less ornate:
jefferson

And finally, South Mountain. Here, we still see the Lombardic influence in the letters, but it has been simplified to the point of really not being a blackletter typeface anymore. It's almost like a "western" font.
southmountain

More information on Blackletter typefaces: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackletter

Blackmoor is a popular typeface that is similiar to what we see here:
http://www.linotype.com/11669/blackmoorplain-font.html

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