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Rebecca Raines
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Username: Robin_realist

Post Number: 5
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 12:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone know the history of the origin of Maplecrest Park. It is rumoured that a condition was made when the land was first given to/acquired by the town that the park and library were to go hand in hand. How did the land come to be owned by Maplewood? What year? Were there any conditions placed on its use? You see where I'm going and I would appreciate any memory of facts that can be supported rather than opinions. Also, how would one research something like this? Thanks, R
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bpaandco
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 3:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You may find info on the park at the Durand Hedden house. If they don't have the information, they might steer you in the right direction. The library should have some too. I looked in my book on Maplewood, but Maplecrest Park wasn't mentioned. Residents of Winchester Gardens might be a good source too.
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Rebecca Raines
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Username: Robin_realist

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Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 7:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks, good suggestions. R
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Dave Ross
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Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 7:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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Later on, but before Millburn Avenue was cut through to Springfield Avenue, another way to Newark was favored. Travelers followed the path down Millburn Avenue to the present Valley Street, turned left on Valley Street to the present Tuscan Road, then right on Tuscan Road to the present apex of Maplecrest Park, where a small settlement known at various times as "North Farms", "The Harbor", "Middleville" and "Hilton" was located. There the travelers continued east to Newark. When toll was charged for the Springfield Avenue Pike, Valley Street to South Orange became the shunpike of that section, and was so known for many years


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I bet the Hilton Library has more information, too.
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extuscan
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Post Number: 220
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 10:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some of you will notice that the houses near Ward Homestead and the end of Maplecrest Park are all post-war. Maplecrest used to extend the entire way. It would be reasonable to assume that there were no restrictions on developing Maplecrest, as a portion of it was developed in the 1950's. I think this is what my dad told me a long time ago when we were walking the dog.

--John
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bpaandco
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Post Number: 31
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Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 10:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would definely check Winchester Gardens then. It was the old Ward Homestead, and the history of the place would most likely be known. Ward Homestead was a large piece of land at one time. It included the Maplewood pool site at the very least. Also, some of the residents at Winchester have lived in the area all of their lives.
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Joan
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 10:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You might also want to contact the town historian, who is certain to know about this if anyone does.
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extuscan
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Post Number: 221
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 5:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I double checked with my mom about the houses at the end of Maplecrest. That did used to be part of the park, and she remembers those houses being built when she was a kid. She graduated CHS in 1967 or 68 something like that to get a guess on when they were built.

When she was younger the Hilton Branch was on the top floor of the firestation by the pool...

--John

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lseltzer
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 6:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If we're talking about Boyden Pkwy and Boyden Pkwy South, all those houses were built in the 20's according to the reval database.
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lseltzer
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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 6:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If we're talking about Forest Road, the little road that snakes between Oakland and Essex roads, they were all built in 59-61. Looks like the houses at the end of Essex Rd were built then too.
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bill671
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Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 9:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

An elderly neighbor, who also grew up in that neighborhood once told me as a teenager he used to regularly go hunting in Maplecrest Park, obviously before it was a park. Guessing at his age, this was probably as late as World War One,
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Rebecca Raines
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Username: Robin_realist

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Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2003 - 10:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks everyone for so many suggestions. I have yet to speak to the town historian but what I was really looking for was a timeline for when that area was subdivided. This in order to establish whether the library property might be considered Green Acres and why the tiny triangle(the traffic median) is already. Tuscan Road is a very old road and cut off the larger triangle before Maplecrest was an actual park. I believe that in 1902 that tiny triangle was still part of the bigger triangle the library is currently on. By the 30's Vermont was cutting off the little triangle. I'm still piecing the together. Thanks again, you overwhelmed me a little. R
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extuscan
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Post Number: 222
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Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 9:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The location of the Hilton Library was always considered part of Maplecrest Park. However, the park was "sold" for greenacres dollars in the 70's or 80's, and the library was built long before this. It is my suggestion that the Hilton Branch is not on greenacres space. A very good try at saving the Hilton Branch, Rebecca. Not to discourage you, but this is likely the wrong route. The "park" as an idea, with fuzzy boarders, was not sold. They sold a geographical boundry.
---John
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Rebecca Raines
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Username: Robin_realist

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Posted on Saturday, November 1, 2003 - 12:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The geographical boundary you mention, did it cross over Tuscan Rd and include the triangular traffic median? I can't imagine that the Green Acres plan could have possibly considered the road and that traffic median as part of the park but maybe so. I'm still going to look it up but believe it is a moot point now anyway. Thanks for the decade info. R
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bobk
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Post Number: 3711
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Saturday, November 1, 2003 - 4:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe the area around Forest was purchased from the Ward Homestead, as were the lots opposite the Homestead on Elmwood.

I had always had the impression that Maplecrest Park was a WPA project back in the 1930s, although I have no idea where I picked this up. More likely it was built at the time Forest was developed, although some of the trees seem more mature than that time frame would indicate.

It is interesting that the time line Vor posted shows why, unlike most towns our size, we have two libraries.

Park boundaries can be fuzzy. SO is currently in dispute over the new animal shelter, which may or may not be on Green Acres land.
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extuscan
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Post Number: 223
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Saturday, November 1, 2003 - 5:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well... I wouldn't say that the South Orange Split had terribly much to do with why we have two libraries.

The "library" was not started by the town, but as an association. The original Maplewood Library was upstairs in the old Maplewood firestation near the (far more recent) town pool.

The "Main Branch" was built years later, in a much more central location. Not a bad spot for a library!

Later, when the original Hilton Firehouse needed to be replaced, the citizens in the Hilton area were not about to lose thier library.

It is for this reason that Maplewood has two libraries about five blocks from each other.

--John
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bobk
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Post Number: 3727
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Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 - 5:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

John, there used to be two library associations with two libraries. One was in Hilton and the other downtown. They merged. The time line I mentioned is posted in another thread in this section.
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extuscan
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Username: Extuscan

Post Number: 225
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Sunday, November 2, 2003 - 11:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My confusion... that thread being "Split with South Orange" and the timeline I saw was the next entry under Vors link to a timeline... thought you were refering to that timeline and inferring that the split with south orange had something to do with Maplewood having two libraries. Double checking, heheh, ur right. the timeline linked does expressly mention why we have two libraries. What I didn't realize was that the bulding in DeHart park is 20 years old! It still feels like "that new building".

--John

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