| Author | Message | ||
     Rebecca Goldsmith Citizen Username: Rgoldsmith Post Number: 3 Registered: 6-2003 |
Anyone remember how good it was, or know how to get something similar now? | ||
| Boomie Citizen Username: Boomie Post Number: 219 Registered: 7-2005 |
I remember. And I have no idea how to get that rich gooey dark stuff now. | ||
| kevin Supporter Username: Kevin Post Number: 530 Registered: 2-2002 |
My father offered to purchase the recipe a number of times over the years without success. Now it's got me thinking...remember Hy's cheesecakes in Maplewood? | ||
| Boomie Citizen Username: Boomie Post Number: 223 Registered: 7-2005 |
Maybe you could contact this person whos mom was a waitress there? Worth an email http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=178174&messageid=1013538366&lp=101 6988210 | ||
| les Citizen Username: Les Post Number: 95 Registered: 6-2001 |
Ohhhhh, yum! Hy's cheesecakes were the ultimate! | ||
| Pizzaz Supporter Username: Pizzaz Post Number: 2502 Registered: 11-2001  |
I loved Hy's cheesecake too..... I know the person who made the fudge at Grunnings for years and years. The recipe he knows is for a really big batch of fudge. He says he doesn't know if the quality would be the same if the batch were smaller. His children - grown adults - live and work in the village. | ||
| bets Supporter Username: Bets Post Number: 2402 Registered: 6-2001  |
I say let's give it a try - we can use the extra to make their coffee fudge ice cream. Then I can have my ultimate Gruning's favorite - Dusty Road w/coffee fudge ice cream and extra malt. Can you really get the recipe, Pizzaz? That would be incredibly beautifully awesome. | ||
| bill671 Citizen Username: Bill671 Post Number: 129 Registered: 6-2002 |
Yes the recipe would be awesome to have - heck I was a kid and remember how AWESOME it was. My grandmother worked at Bellin's next door, so if a shopping trip coincided with her break or the end of the day, well - JACKPOT!!! Here's a notion - if the thought is it wouldn't be the same unless prepared in a large batch, well let's do it that way. Be a pretty good item to produce and distribute as a fundraiser for some South Orange oriented charity. Funny related story - although at the time it was really rather tortuous. Imagine going to the orthodontist upstairs from Gruning's in the village, and then standing looking in the window at all the candy while waiting for Mom to pick you up!!!! | ||
| Boomie Citizen Username: Boomie Post Number: 224 Registered: 7-2005 |
There are caterers here - maybe one of them would agree to make a big batch and we could all buy a jar or two? Or we could have a Grunings ice cream social! I think it would rock. | ||
| Pizzaz Supporter Username: Pizzaz Post Number: 2503 Registered: 11-2001 |
I'll see if I can get it. I worked at Bellin's Girltown in high school as a stock and mop guy. Mrs. Bellin was a piece of sharp cheddar cheese, but we got along. Oh, the memories..... | ||
| galileo Citizen Username: Galileo Post Number: 194 Registered: 7-2001 |
That was absolutely the best hot fudge. Would love to taste it again. Also remember the dish the sundae was served in - not the paper cup of today. That makes a difference also. | ||
| Rebecca Goldsmith Citizen Username: Rgoldsmith Post Number: 4 Registered: 6-2003 |
Pizzaz, if you could get it, you would be my hero forever. How old is this fudge maker anyway? I would like to meet him, just to shake his hand and tell him how he elevated the level of my happiness throughout childhood. | ||
| Dan Sachs Citizen Username: Mensadan Post Number: 6 Registered: 8-2004 |
My wife "snagged" me via Grunings hot fudge. When we were first casually dating, and I wanted to go out with someone else, she would pop into my office and suggest we go to her apartment after work and eat some ice cream and Grunings hot fudge. That would do it-a miracle that I didn't get fat. *IF* we can get the receipe a small batch would taste as good as a large one-it just wouldn't last as long! BTW, I know what kind of cheeses Don used on his cheeseburgers. But the ones I make using them aren't even close to his. Probably a good thing now---. | ||
| aquaman Supporter Username: Aquaman Post Number: 481 Registered: 8-2001 |
Herman W. Gruning still lives in Maplewood. He's in the book, if you want to get his recipe, why not ask him? You may want to wait a while, as he is grieving the loss of his wife earlier this month. Very sad. Gruning's was the best, I hear. | ||
| r2boy Supporter Username: R2boy Post Number: 236 Registered: 5-2001 |
Back in the 50's SO village had the greatest stores like Grunings,Bellins,Fellers and the old Alex Eng.After school at SO Jr High which was across on the corner of Academy and SO Ave we all went for egg roll...There was a pecking order at Grunings in those days;you couldn't eat upstairs in the back unless you were in CHS...so we had to settle for cones from the counter..I can "smell" Grunings and that long candy display case as you walked in...everything was homemade...thanks for the delicious memories of the good old days... | ||
| bets Supporter Username: Bets Post Number: 2420 Registered: 6-2001 |
How many hand- and face-prints were cleaned off that candy case how many times a day? I can still smell Grunings, too. And the pecking order was still in effect in the 70s, r2boy.  | ||
| Boomie Citizen Username: Boomie Post Number: 231 Registered: 7-2005 |
Alex Eng isn't there anymore? I had my first real cocktail there! A Mai Tai of course. Ahhh memories. | ||
| extuscan Citizen Username: Extuscan Post Number: 512 Registered: 6-2001 |
This is a vague memory, and it might not even be still true... but on the floor 1 and a half of C-wing, all the way over by B-wing, there is a classroom with a large Grunings sign. Now, was the fudge better at the top? or at the bottom... | ||
| Erin Cartman Citizen Username: Carnac Post Number: 19 Registered: 5-2005 |
We have the receipe for Hy's cheese cake. I should note it is the original receipe. (Before the cheese cake got heavy on the air and less on the cheese.) Let me know if you would like it..) | ||
| bill671 Citizen Username: Bill671 Post Number: 136 Registered: 6-2002 |
Yes, Would love to have Hy's recipe!!! | ||
| Erin Cartman Citizen Username: Carnac Post Number: 20 Registered: 5-2005 |
CHEESE CAKE 1 lb cream cheese 1 ¼ cup sugar 1 lb ricotta cheese 4 eggs (beaten) 1 pint sour cream 1 tbs lemon juice 2 tbs corn starch 1.25 tsp vanilla 3 tbs flour .25lb butter (melted and cooled) GRAHAM CRACKER CRUMB CRUST (different ways to prepare. Follow instructions on the side of the package.) Press graham cracker crust to the bottom and part way up the sides of a lightly greased 9” spring pan. (OPTIONAL) Cream cheeses. (Note: You my want to press the ricotta through a sift. This helps make the texture of the cheese cake much smoother.) Gradually add the sugar. Stirring, add eggs. Beat well. Add lemon juice and vanilla. Stir. Sift together flour and corn starch. Then sift into the cheese mixture, blend. Add melted butter. Mix. Stir in sour cream. Blend well. Pour into the 9” spring pan. Bake 325 degrees for 1 hour. Turn off the oven. DO NOT OPEN OVEN. Leave in oven for an additional 2 hours. | ||
| kevin Supporter Username: Kevin Post Number: 535 Registered: 2-2002 |
You're the best Erin! I know what I'm doing this weekend...I'll be taking a trip down memory lane... | ||
| Boomie Citizen Username: Boomie Post Number: 243 Registered: 7-2005 |
Im making it too! Thank you! | ||
| the catman Citizen Username: Catmanjac Post Number: 2 Registered: 2-2004 |
I once dated the daughter of the owner of Hy's cheesecake. She wouldn't give me the recipe. My grandmother had one just as good, though. | ||
| kevin Supporter Username: Kevin Post Number: 536 Registered: 2-2002 |
Okay Erin...I used the recipe that you provided on Saturday and ended up with 3 cakes. It was good cheesecake, but....Since I had 3, I decided to drive one over to my parents house. My father, the old coot that he is, immediately scoffed at it and said that it couldn't possibly be Hy's. He said that Hy's cheesecakes were not baked and that they didn't have ovens in their establishment. You mentioned that the recipe was the 'original' recipe. Is it safe to make the assumption that the later recipe which was "heavy on the air and less on the cheese", did not require cooking? Just curious. | ||
| Erin Cartman Citizen Username: Carnac Post Number: 21 Registered: 5-2005 |
To the best of my knowledge all the original cheese cakes were baked. Later, they made this cheese cake that was more like Jello-pudding. I had never heard of them "not baking" them -- But I could be wrong. I should have noted that we made one change and that was to use Ricotta cheese instead of cottage cheese. Otherwise, my family and I have been making it since 1979. (Oh and yes, if you do not have the extra deep dishes you wind up with a lot of cheese cakes.) | ||
| kevin Supporter Username: Kevin Post Number: 537 Registered: 2-2002 |
Thanks Erin. My father is pretty old now and doesn't remember all too well, but he used to purchase them frequently for family gatherings and knew the proprietors. Perhaps he only recalls the later Jello-pudding-ish cakes. If I didn't mention it in my last posting, he really enjoyed the cake... | ||
| susan23 Citizen Username: Susan23 Post Number: 23 Registered: 5-2002 |
I had many Hy's cheesecakes as I worked next door from 1968-1979. He used to give me a $.25 discount. I didn't think they were baked either. In fact, my family always debated this every time I brought one home. I am anxious to try Erin's recipe though. | ||
| bettyd Citizen Username: Badjtdso Post Number: 61 Registered: 12-2005 |
I remember the famous Dusty Road. What was that? It was great and I would love to add it to my kid's ice cream. | ||
| bets Supporter Username: Bets Post Number: 22734 Registered: 6-2001 |
Malted milk. Man, you said "Dusty Road" and now that craving is back! I had mine with the coffee fudge ice cream. What was your ice cream of choice? | ||
| Lucy Supporter Username: Lucy Post Number: 2739 Registered: 5-2005  |
Coffee chip or Mint chip with hot fudge. | ||
| kevin Supporter Username: Kevin Post Number: 609 Registered: 2-2002 |
Anyone ever come across the hot fudge recipe? Pizzaz? | ||
| bettyd Citizen Username: Badjtdso Post Number: 63 Registered: 12-2005 |
I had vanilla ice cream with chocolate syrup, plus the dust. What was the dust? I need the dust. | ||
| bettyd Citizen Username: Badjtdso Post Number: 65 Registered: 12-2005 |
Malted milk? Was it malted milk balls crushed up? Can you get it at A&P? | ||
| bets Supporter Username: Bets Post Number: 22742 Registered: 6-2001 |
That was no chocolate syrup! That was hot fudge and man oh man was it good! Malted milk is available at A&P, I believe. Or on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/search.html/002-4010757-7182429?me=&node=3580501&keywor ds=malted%20milk | ||
| bettyd Citizen Username: Badjtdso Post Number: 66 Registered: 12-2005 |
Thank you. I'll get some today. | ||
| catmanjac Citizen Username: Catmanjac Post Number: 4 Registered: 2-2004  |
The dusty road was ice cream, chocolate syrup, and malted milk powder, served in a stainless steel dish instead of a glass one. I used to order it with coffee chip ice cream and carmel substituted for the chocolate syrup. | ||
| bets Supporter Username: Bets Post Number: 22745 Registered: 6-2001 |
It wasn't chocolate syrup, it was hot fudge. And you forgot the whipped cream and cherry on top! | ||
| catmanjac Citizen Username: Catmanjac Post Number: 5 Registered: 2-2004 |
Whipped cream cost extra. And the true Dusty Road was made with chocolate syrup, not fudge. Yes, their fudge was "to die for." But this dish was made with syrup. | ||
| bets Supporter Username: Bets Post Number: 22749 Registered: 6-2001 |
Hmmm, maybe they changed it? I'm talking early to mid-70s and on. | ||
| catmanjac Citizen Username: Catmanjac Post Number: 6 Registered: 2-2004 |
I'm talking 60's to 70's. And it only cost 70 cents | ||
| BGS Citizen Username: Bgs Post Number: 681 Registered: 10-2003 |
Hey everyone, Herman Gruning lives on Mountain Avenue and is a wonderful person with a terrific memory. He has even told me the story of how his family came to start Grunings.... I can ask him (as a matter of fact, I will call him this afternoon and ask if he will give me the recipe). Keep you posted! | ||
| extuscan Citizen Username: Extuscan Post Number: 622 Registered: 6-2001 |
Wouldn't it be funny if it just turned out to be Bosco -John | ||
| BGS Citizen Username: Bgs Post Number: 684 Registered: 10-2003 |
I spoke with Mr Gruning last night and he said that he sold the recipe when they sold the business. That recipe went along with the recipes for the ice cream and the various candies. So, even if he wanted to share it with us, he is not able to because he does not own it anymore. He was really cute about it when I first told him about this thread and the inquiries...his eyes crinkled up with a smile and he originally said " for the right price I might be able to share it"...then he got serious and told me about selling the recipes... Well, at least we tried!! BGS | ||
| Dan Sachs Citizen Username: Mensadan Post Number: 7 Registered: 8-2004 |
Er, uh, did he say who he sold them to? If he doesn't remember I can send my friends Guido and Luigi over to "help" him remember. <g> | ||
| SoOrLady Citizen Username: Soorlady Post Number: 3238 Registered: 9-2003 |
BGS - Jane once mentioned to me that she still had one bottle. If they didn't eat it, perhaps Herman will let us have it analyzed.  Nothing compares to this recipie - I've tried all the other bottled versions and making it myself... Pizazz, you're our last hope. BTW - selling bottled versions would make a great fundraiser. | ||
| ess Citizen Username: Ess Post Number: 1746 Registered: 11-2001  |
This brings back such memories. Used to frequent both Gruning's locations...but I lived near Gruning's on the hill, and used to get hot fudge marshmallow sundaes with coffee ice cream. I also remember that I was unable to finish a small one. Those were the days! | ||
| Ima Perplecks Citizen Username: Victor Post Number: 27 Registered: 6-2005 |
Used to go to the South Orange Chorus and group of us would stop into Grunings and order no ice cream, just a tall glass of hot fudge with lotsa spoons. Stop it!!!! | ||
| Brett Weir Citizen Username: Brett_weir Post Number: 1618 Registered: 4-2004  |
Bets- It was definitely chocolate syrup in the Dusty Road Sundae. I started eating them in the early 60's and remember them well. Willie used to tease me because I ate mine with strawberry ice cream, which he found amusing for reasons unknown. I'm sure hot fudge could have been substituted upon request- Gruning's was very accomodating, and great service was very important to them. The pecking order was great- earning "backroom" status was a seminal moment in a young Villager's life. And driving to The Top was huge too! | ||
| GSP142 Citizen Username: Gsp142 Post Number: 129 Registered: 5-2003 |
I really enjoyed the Gruning's on the hill--where else could you spend a few dollars and enjoy such a beautiful view, and just relax over a coffee and ice cream, ice cream being my favorite dessert. | ||
| jezor Citizen Username: Jezor Post Number: 4 Registered: 3-2001 |
When I think of Gruning's, I have this strong memory of eating ice cream and hot fudge out of a cold metal serving bowl, and almost tasting the metal while scraping the last bits out of the bowl. I also remember hiking up the hill behind Woodhill Dr. with a friend who lived on that street right into the Gruning's parking lot, a few weeks before Gruning's on the hill closed. | ||
| Steve Weintraub Citizen Username: Stevew Post Number: 2 Registered: 4-2006 |
Jezor - That friend would be me! - Steve | ||
| jezor Citizen Username: Jezor Post Number: 6 Registered: 3-2001 |
Yeppers! { J} |
