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caboose
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 9-2003


Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is something I've been wondering about since I moved here. For instance, I'm on Rynda in South Orange, there's one in Maplewood. (We always get their pizzas and car service pickups). But there's a lot of cases, it seems like.

I assume these are all historical family names from the town, but I don't know any more than that. I'm particularly interested in Rynda, I guess, it would be nice to know more about my street than how to spell it.

And sure, I could go to the library, and I probably will. I just thought someone here might know something as well.

Thanks!
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To me, it just seems like there was little imagination. It's as if they ran out of names and felt they had to reuse them. There are Burnet Street, Burnett Terrace, and Burnett Avenue, all in Maplewood. Note the different spellings.

And Bowdoin, Boyden, and Borden confuse me, though those are not "reusals" of the same name.
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caboose
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Post Number: 18
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Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah my favorite recent example is I was out running on Ridgewood and had a guy stop me for directions. Now I'm not so good with directions in the first place, which really helped as the woman I was with and I tried to convince him that the Lenox Ave he was about to go by was NOT the one he wanted. He needed to go, oh, 6 blocks or so for the OTHER Lenox Ave.

But hey, I have a friend in Atlanta who lives on Lake Forest Drive. How do you get to her house? By turning off of (I'm not kidding here) Forest Lake Drive.

And about 6 mos ago I was in Herndon VA and I drove by a road called Temporary Road (it was hard paved, by the way) and my personal favorite: Frying Pan Road. No, that's not a joke.

So lack of imagination is everywhere, I guess. (Though I guess a case could be made that Frying Pan Road actually _is_ pretty imaginative...)
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Dave
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Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Meadowbrook Place and Meadowbrook Lane intersect. Talk about stupidity.
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sac
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Post Number: 2665
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Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 5:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We live on Oakview, but our mail often goes to Oakland. Fortunately we know the people at our number on Oakland ... otherwise we might have missed some important items over the years. What will we do when they move, as is likely in the not-too-distant future because they are Senior citizens?

There are lots of other duplicate name examples, even some within the same town - two Laurel Avenues, Burnet(t) St/Ave/Terrace, Franklin Ave/Terrace/etc., Park Avenue and Park Road. I'm sure I've missed some. There also seems to be the same street name in every other New Jersey town and they often do not refer to the continuation of the same street, even in adjacent towns. Somehow, cities much larger than ours manage to avoid duplicate names, so why can't we?
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 5:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh, and there are two Norfolks. It looks like it used to be one and got interrupted by development.

Also funny is that Maplewood has a 4th St, a 44th St, and a 45th St but no other numbered streets.

I always thought it was silly to name a street after the town it leads \to, because it doesn't help you navigate, because it leads to that town in one direction but from that town in the other direction, and you can't tell just by looking.

But South Orange and Maplewood are not as nutty as Piscataway, where I work. I could go on and on about the stupid street names and road signs. I work on Old New Brunswick Rd. Wouldn't that cancel out to Brunswick Rd? Or Middle Aged Rd?

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tom
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Post Number: 3718
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Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 2:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Boyden Ave. and Boyden Pkwy. And what exactly happens to Tuscan on the south side of Springfield Ave., anyway??

New Haven, CT has a boulevard called, simply, "Boulevard."

What would really help clear some of this up would be street signs that could be read at night.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 3:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just before Tuscan Rd reaches Springfield Ave (going south), it splits into Tuscan Rd and Tuscan St.

I suspect that the street namers thought they were helping us: a street named similarly to another street was related to the other. The effect is the opposite of what they were aiming for, however.
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tom
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Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 4:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's like trying to find your way around Queens.
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ken (the other one)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 4:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Also funny is that Maplewood has a 4th St, a 44th St, and a 45th St
but no other numbered streets."

South 4th St is actually a continuation of Montague Pl in S0uth Orange, which is next to Third St.

44th and 45th St are in line from the numbered streets that start in Newark and go westward.

Ken
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 4:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sure, there are REASONS for those numbers. It's still funny.
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James
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Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 4:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Granted, everyone calls it "The Boulevard", but it's actually "Ella T. Grasso Boulevard" on the street signs.

N.B.: New Haven is the greatest city on earth.
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Barbara
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Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 5:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Burnett Terrace and Avenue were named after the fellow, William Burnett, who built a great many of the homes here in the 20s -- his house is the second one in from Oakview on Prospect, heading south.

Burnet Street is named for James Burnet, son of a local family who displayed some valor during the Civil War.

Thanks to Howard Wiseman and his walking tours in the late 90's, I got to hear lots of wonderful stories about Maplewood.
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Scully
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Post Number: 81
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Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How about Essex Street and Essex Avenue in Maplewood? Good for the odd mail switcheroo.
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tom
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Post Number: 4054
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 4:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's a fun placee, used to drive me batty when I cycled out there:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Mill+Farm+Lane,+Southampton,+NY&ll=40.908648,-72.3 74625&spn=0.014482,0.037712&hl=en

You have the following roads within a mile or so here:
1) Seven Ponds Town Road
2) Seven Ponds Road
3) Lower Seven Ponds Road
4) Upper Seven Ponds Road
5) Head of Pond Road

also close by:
1) Edge of Woods Rd.
2) Wood Edge Ct.

And:
1) Old Mill Rd.
2) Water Mill Towd Rd.
3) Mill Farm Lane
4) Mill Pond Lane
5) Mill Creek Clos.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 4:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey, that's where I had my first driving lesson! Somehow I managed to stall the car, and it was an automatic. I still haven't figured out how I did that. And I sailed on Mecox Bay once.
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eyespy
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Post Number: 133
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 6:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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uncleelmer
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Post Number: 17
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Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Robert Little
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Post Number: 268
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Park Road and Park Avenue--the Avenue, like the one in New York, is not adjacent to the park but has a park running up the middle of it.
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HOMMELL
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe (with certain hesitation) that Park Avenue was constructed (at least half of it -- up to Osborne), when there was a park across Valley Street (what is now Maplewood Country Club). Does anyone know for sure?
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HOMMELL
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Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm looking at a 1910 map of Maplewood, and it appears that Park Road was not in existence at that time. Further, Mountain View Terrace (connecting what is now Park Road to Oakview) was a private road.

The area that is now Maplewood Country Club (built in 1921) looks to be a park on the map.
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Bob K
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Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 1:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The country club was known as the Maplewood Field Club prior to assuming its current identity. I am 99% sure the field club was there prior to 1900.

I agree with Bob L that the name comes from the center island.
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extuscan
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Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 4:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Prior to the Field Club even, the Country Club was mostly underwater. There was a large feed pond to Pierson's Mill at that location.

-John
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Tofugrl3
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 8:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Boyden Ave. and Boyden Parkway are named for Seth Boyden, who was a famous American inventor. Among his inventions are malleable iron, the steamboat, patent leather, and a nail-making machine. Boyden lived in Hilton, NJ (now Maplewood) where he developed a hybrid strawberry known as the Hilton strawberry.
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John
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Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 9:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lanes often come off roads or streets and are therefore given the same name. That part doesn't confuse me. What's really bad in NJ (for the immigrant) is the way numbered roads (e.g., 512) are composed of various (and therefore variously named) local roads (e.g., Morris Ave and Springfield Ave).

I find that locals tend not to use the numbers, but MapQuest does. Combine that with the state's penchant for simply not labeling roads and it's a mess.

(Oh, and Queens is worse. The same number shows up in streets, avenues and roads, sometimes right near each other. Look at a map of LI City, for example.)
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Ima Perplecks
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Check out Norfolk Ave on the map. It runs N-S.
Stops at Elmwood and picks up on Oakview.

Eyespy..thanks...made me laugh. Hee, Hee, Hee,
Hoo, Hoo, Hee, Hoo. etc.
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Astoria Mover
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Post Number: 5
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Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 1:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In defense of Queens ...

There is actually a logic to it. Avenues run east to west. Streets run north to south. Where there are smaller streets between avenues, they have the same numbers as the avenues, but are named road or place. So ... 30th Road is a bit south of 30th Avenue and both intersect with 30th Street. In theory, if you know how the system works (and because the house numbers include the cross street) you know exactly where any address is.

Doesn't stop delivery trucks from calling me from 37th Avenue and 25th Street looking for my house that is on 37th Street near what would be 25th Avenue (if there actually were a 25th avenue there, which there isn't).

Rebecca
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Psychomom
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Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 4:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I used to live on South 4th Street in Mplwd...it was always hard to explain in giving directions that there is no south 3rd or 5th or any other number street close by. I did figure that it had more to do with the numbered streets in South Orange but still most people didn't even know we were there.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 4:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The only way to understand why there is a 4th St in Maplewood is to look at a map. And funnily, it's called 4th St in SO, then Montague Pl, then S 4th in Maplewood.

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