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cecilia david
Citizen
Username: Ceciliadav569
Post Number: 31
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 12:16 pm: | 
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NO offense but before the inception of Pen and Jen's. That area was very hit or miss and the teenagers that were there were more than involved with the television than the service of customers. Manny's and Joyce are OK but are only in the train station less than 20 hours a week. Pen and Jen's has made the place very active--lots of activities in evenings and on Saturday's and sometimes on the Sundays. NO other person has worked as hard as these two women have in developing a business and meeting a need in the community. They hire lots of teenagers that is very positive and are excellent role models for these employees and actually listen to suggestions from their employees.
SO Art and Bob why can the COnsierge not meet their needs and rise to the occasion do something that might be very beneficial to whole of Maplewood. cecilia |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 5329
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 2:46 pm: |
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Dear Cecilla, we have met their needs, and we have risen to the occasion and the needs of the people, and we are the ones who brought you Joyce, Manny, and Pen & Jen, and we will continue to service all of Maplewood if the powers that be give us a mandate to do it...
And now moving right along... Drew – Greenetree, I'm right there with ya all too..., buddy, pal, or what ever... 
Perhaps part of the problem is NOT the research company; maybe it’s the people who say one thing and do another? I’ve read your grouchy rants over the years about your experiences and others with N.J. Transit. Whether you commute or your partner does is not the issue in this matter.
I’m glad to see you would love to use some of the concierge services, and so would thousands of others. The fact is many do, and because of one reason or another some don’t. Noting that you and your partner get home late, are you aware the concierge has made arrangements in the past to drop of things at times when people are at home. The concierge wants to be everyone’s personal servant, like no kidding, what can we do to help you?
As for the choice between catching the jitney and using a concierge service, that’s a personal choice. A phone call to the concierge could help resolve that problem. You should bring the issues about rescheduling the departure and arrival times to the Township Committee. N.J. Transit schedules change from time to time. When it does, the jitney times need to change too. The town runs the jitney, the commuters help pay for it, so what’s wrong with this picture?
FWIW, I don’t believe we need anymore research on the matter. The concierge program has been established as a valuable service, and is as much about managing the other retail services at the station as it is providing the concierge service itself. They go hand in hand. Transit gets free help and the commuters get the service should they choose to take advantage of them. I will explain more on another post, but now I want to address your comments.
1. The world needs more people utilizing public transportation, and less market research about it. That’s a fact, and a concierge service is meant to support this important initiative!
2. IMHO, when people think "train station", they first think about traveling to work or home and what is awaiting them when they get there.
3. "Pen & Jen", "Manny" or "Joyce” is not the first thing they think about. They are thinking about what things they didn’t do and need to get done.
4. The concierge services are clearly offered throughout the station and continue to be promoted throughout the community on a regular basis. But, what the hell; you’re not the one using it, so why should anyone care what you think??????? Is this really what WE mean to say? Probably not.
Sorry, but I really get perplexed when people ask questions on a thread before first reading what has already been said. I also don’t appreciate when people drift to another unrelated issue, like B&B’s that have been beat to death on this board. This is especially so when I’m the central figure in both matters.
Like everything, there are people who want some things to succeed, but God forbid anyone offers to roll up their sleeves and help.
Here’s where I’m at. When people don’t have a stated purpose for their online discourse, or a stake in the results of their suggestions, then who needs the idle chatter? IMHO, suggestions without praise for what has already been done, is not much more than veiled disapproval for what was done. I have always found where people spend their time and money is where their interests lie. Anything else is small talk, and when it’s about business, I don’t wish to waste my time or anyone else’s.
Drew, I’m sorry if I offended you... As you may have figured out this is a very important issue with me. It's one that I’ve spent a lot of time and personal money to promote for what many of us feel is for the good of the community. So please state a purpose in asking your questions, offer a clear concern to help, or be up front about any negative feelings you may have. The same goes for you Greenetree, and please don’t take my straightforward attitude personal again.
My interest in this matter is clear to everyone. And, as you stated, “what the hell; I'm not the one losing money on it, so why should I care?” To me this sums it all up; why should you or Drew, or anyone care what happens to the concierge program if none of you have a personal interest in seeing it be successful?
A meeting of the board of director’s and all stockholders is being planned for sometime next week. We are also considering inviting members of the Township Committee, N.J. Transit, and the public. I would appreciate hearing from anyone interested in attending or willing to write us about your feelings on the concierge program for Maplewood. Please private line me through MOL so we can choose the proper venue.
Thank you. Art Christensen
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Bajou
Citizen
Username: Bajou
Post Number: 1130
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 3:44 pm: |
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I didn't have time to read the rest of the posts but let me give you a little piece of advise Pen and Jen:
Good luck dealing with NJ Transit directly. When space goes up for public bid and you should be so lucky to even get your foot in the door financially, chains outbid individual vendors with outrages sums on a regular basis. To anyone who was familiar with Kim at the Hoboken Trainstation: Kim and her two workers ran a extremely successful Deli for over 15 years at the Hoboken Station. She made money and was able to pay her rent (even though it almost doubled ever other year in the last five years). Then one day she was told her lease will not be renewed and she had no chance in the public bid. A chain took over the space and although their staff is nice they charge almost double in price, are alot slower and not half as charming. Kim and her two workers were out on their behinds after 15 years and had to find jobs....
Pen and Jen get ready... you were lucky you have had the caliber of people like ACJ and Bob looking out for you and dealing with NJ Transit. NJ Transit might even let you in but the moment you'll make money and somebody see's it they will raise your rent. I have seen your front end space (not even storage included) and let me tell you there is no way you can get this under 1,800.00.
Good luck you girls..Sometimes but rarely is it smart to bite the hand that feeds you. |
eliz
Supporter
Username: Eliz
Post Number: 1578
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 4:05 pm: |
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Not sure it well help but probably doesn't hurt that Jen's father is the governor of the NJ part of NJTransit. |
LilLB
Citizen
Username: Lillb
Post Number: 2057
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 4:30 pm: |
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We started using the concierge service this year for dry cleaning. It has been great. The people at Pen & Jens who are there when I pick up my dry cleaning are very nice and the one time I had a problem I felt like the person went above and beyond to remedy it -- they gave a pair of our pants to another customer. She went to that person's house and picked them up and brought them to us. I was astonished really at how immediately and satisfactorily she handled the situation.
I realize that the concierge has a website that lists the merchants it does business with, http://www.maplewoodconciergecompany.com/advertisers.html
which is helpful, and I know I've seen a pamphlet at the train station, but I have to admit, it's still a little fuzzy on what the concierge will do.
For example, Wooley Fuel is listed as well as the Sewer and Drain cleaner. But, I'm left wondering what service the concierge will do for me with those businesses. Also - what fees are charged for all of these services.
I also think it would be good to have a little placard by the cashier at these merchants that reminds people that they could have been saving time by having the concierge do whatever it is they're doing there. Sometimes people forget about the concierge. I know I did -- I initially posted on MOL about what dry cleaners are open late because I need to get dry cleaning during the week and delivery isn't an option because we don't have a place for them to deliver it to that won't be out in the rain... Then, an MOL poster suggested the concierge - I had completely forgotten about that as an option.
Don't get me wrong - I think that the concierge is very valuable and would like to use it more, but these are just things I've thought about and I'm at the train station every day. |
doulamomma
Citizen
Username: Doulamomma
Post Number: 1600
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 6:48 pm: |
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Art and all,
Respectfully, I'm a bit surprised by and uncomfortable with business correspondence, rent amounts etc. being posted here...I certainly appreciate a bit of light being shed on the situation, but I'm betting that the correspondence posted here was not sent with the idea that it would be posted on a public forum.
I think folks are giving some valuable feedback about the concierge - and maybe some of the feedback is that Pen & Jen's, Joyce and others are what make us feel good about going to the train station, whether we commute or not. (we non-commuters spend money too, generally have loved ones who do commute and make many of the decisions about where to buy things/services). Just because I don't commute does not mean that I will not use the concierge - the cleaner's hours often don't work for me & it might be a nice option to pick up later at the station...but I'd be more likely to go if I could grab a tea or a healthy snack for my kids while we wait.
I certainly hope that a deal that works for all concerned is worked out so that Pen & Jen's can continue - it has been such a bright spot at the train station. As stated, I don't commute (when I did, I certainly got my coffee from Joyce & paper at the station) but go there as a destination for tea, conversation and knitting (and music) - it's such a nice place for community. Pen, in particular, is so wonderful at bringing people together to share ideas, promote community services and foster relationships. I think it's also an excellent PR spot for visitors who are checking out our towns on the weekends...you would be amazed by the number of folks who exclaim over the coolness of knitters sipping tea & talking art & politics...
I have not used the concierge because it never seemed to be open when I tried in the (way) past, but if I were to need to, and Pen & Jen were somehow involved, I know I would be happily served by the nice folks that have staffed Pen & Jen's
later, y'all
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doulamomma
Citizen
Username: Doulamomma
Post Number: 1602
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 7:49 pm: |
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by the way, I'm speaking of the quotes posted by Art & not the email Pen & Jen sent out to their customers... |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 5330
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 11:23 am: |
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...thank you for your input Lillb. The concierge is very valuable and we would love to see you and others use it more. Please support all our local merchants....
http://www.maplewoodconciergecompany.com/advertisers.html
Doulamomma, we appreciate receiving all the valuable feedback about the concierge, and please don't be overly concerned about the candid correspondence posted here. The concierge is a community service company and posting on a public forum helps show that everything is above board and to dispel any false roomers being spread around town. As we know, we are dealing with an issue of celebrity status. I want to thank Mtam and Lah for first posting this thread. As it turns out they and what seems to be the rest of the town knew about their leaving before even I did... 
As for Pen & Jen's, we love having them at the station. As a matter of fact it was one of my better decisions to bring them on board. I have no idea why they're handling their business in this manner, or why they decided to close the tea bar. Only one day earlier, we had all agreed to expand their space and their say in the concierge service. I hope they would confirm that I have been their strongest supporter as they worked out the bugs at the station and with the other tenants there. I will truly and sincerely miss them, but our commuters must continue to be served.
Their written decision to nullify their sub-lease has resulted in me receiving several calls from other interested parties to reopen the cafe and expand the services. I am personally making plans next week to reopen the station evenings myself until another suitable tenant can be found.
In the past, the public, the town, and N.J. Transit have tried to impose their will on matters that belong in our jurisdiction. We are a private corporation. As Bob and I are the Chairs of the Concierge, only we will decide on what happens at this time. I will continue to look for responsible written suggestions on how we can keep improving our service to the community. You can also be assured I will keep everyone informed as I learn of any changes.
BTW, we have always welcomed non-commuters. FWI, the design of the original concierge program was to be able to marry all parts of our town at the train station, considered the center of our community by N.J. Transit.
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doulamomma
Citizen
Username: Doulamomma
Post Number: 1606
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 1:10 pm: |
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Hmm, OK - one thing though...
AJC wrote:
..."As we know, we are dealing with an issue of celebrity status. "
I think that's a stretch...guess it depends how you decribe celebrity; if that's the perseption, I think it is a one-way determination - I have never had the feeling that anyone there views themselves as a celeb...just my two cents. |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 5331
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 1:22 pm: |
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...I beg your pardon momma...
Are you saying I'm not a celebrity? Don't you read the newspapers anymore? |
Mtam
Citizen
Username: Mtam
Post Number: 120
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 1:30 pm: |
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Has anyone spoken to Pen and Jen about their future plans? I'm glad that there are others wanting to continue the cafe idea. But Pen and Jen had an energy and a whole style and approach that I'd hate to lose in the community, wherever they set up. |
doulamomma
Citizen
Username: Doulamomma
Post Number: 1607
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 1:42 pm: |
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sorry Art - I just so took for granted your celebrity status that I wasn't even thinking you could mean that! ;-) |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 5332
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 2:47 pm: |
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...no problem momma… BTW, Mtam, I haven't spoken with either of them yet. And, as I've said several times in this thread, I too love having them at the station.
Personally, I can't think of anything better than if they would change their minds again and call me on my cell 973-699-8276. As they are so well thought of in the community, I'm making myself available to anyone, anytime, should someone want to talk to me privately about this matter...
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lah
Citizen
Username: Lah
Post Number: 431
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 9:28 pm: |
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Art,
I appreciate your willingness to continue to post information here. It's not clear to me how the goals of the concierge are conflicting with the goals of Pen and Jen's. Frankly, I'm not sure that it's any of my business. My guess is that you will have contact with Pen and/or Jen before many of us tea drinkers will and may gain some insight into what the "issues" are. To the extent that you think P&J's customers can play a role to help resolve this so that it works for both P&J and the concierge, please post and suggest some constructive things that we can do.
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Louise Arkel
Citizen
Username: Louisea
Post Number: 2
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 10:59 pm: |
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Well, I've learned a lot from reading the messages here. Let me say upfront that I am not a regular train commuter, but when I have commuted, I have bought newspapers from Manny and coffee from Joyce. I have not used the concierge service, but am impressed by the idea and the services, and have a lot of admiration for Art & Bob's innovation and hard work. Disclosure done ....
I JUST WANT PEN & JEN'S TO REMAIN IN THE MAPLEWOOD TRAIN STATION!
I am a relative newcomer to Maplewood (3 yrs), and am single with no children. It can be difficult to get to know people in a new town, especially in a town where a lot of the social and other activity tends to focus on kids. Pen & Jen's (& esp. the knitting circle they run on Sat mornings) has been my newcomer's club, my hangout, my dating service, my local newspaper, my favorite gift shop and, of course, my tea bar, all rolled into one. I have brought my 3-yr-old nephew there for animal crackers and the blood orange pear and my 81-yr-old neighbor there for knitting and a popover. I have met a legion of impressive, intelligent, hard-working teenagers and, through them, have learned great things about the Maplewood schools. I have also met an astonishing array of interesting, creative, involved people, from the man who runs this website to an artist who covered a building in crochet.
Clearly, Pen & Jen's is an important place for me personally (and -- more disclosure -- I have come to consider both P & J friends), but I think that some of the comments already posted indicate that others consider it a pretty special place as well. While someone else could sell tea or something else there, I think it would be difficult to replace the spirit that P&J have worked tremendously hard to infuse into their business. So, I beg, plead, urge all parties involved to work to resolve whatever differences exist and to keep Pen & Jen's in the Maplewood Train Station. I am also interested in any ideas others have for more effective or more organized begging/pleading/urging. Thank you. |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 5333
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 6:57 am: |
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"I JUST WANT PEN & JEN'S TO REMAIN IN THE MAPLEWOOD TRAIN STATION!"
Thank you Louise, ME TOO! I briefly spoke to Bob Klein last night during the Chamber's "Meet and Greet" at Cent'Anni's. The bottom line is P&J want to talk. Let's cross our fingers and see what today brings???
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mjh
Supporter
Username: Mjh
Post Number: 703
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 8:15 am: |
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Louise;
What a lovely testament to our town and to Pen and Jen's.
Welcome to Maplewood! |
doulamomma
Citizen
Username: Doulamomma
Post Number: 1613
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 9:11 am: |
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Well said, Louise...
Maybe we should organize a knit-in! |
Paul Surovell
Supporter
Username: Paulsurovell
Post Number: 651
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 1:00 pm: |
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My wife Judi, who's not a member of MOL, was asked by an interested party to submit a reply to some of the discourse. Here it is:
Quote:I have been a resident of Maplewood for twenty-nine years. I have been a commuter for all of them. I still commute. I recall when the Concierge began and when Joyce and Manny first started their small businesses at the train station. I was also present at the negotiation of the last lease agreement that was reached between Joyce and the Concierge and NYT. FYI, after reading all of the posts during the last several days following the e-mail from Pen and Jen that they are planning to leave the train station, I take issue with a least one statement made by AJC.
When Joyce's last lease with the Concierge was about to expire, there were similar rumors that she was leaving, that Kings was coming in to take over her shop, that Starbucks was coming in to take over her shop. The commuters tried to get information from the Concierge board about the situation and no answers were immmediately given. AJC made it clear that the Concierge was a private business which had a right to discontinue her lease. He was very agressive about getting her out and making his investment profitable.
Several of us took it upon ourselves to help Joyce who appeared to be powerless and up against all odds of remaining at the station. Like most of the posts I have read about Pen and Jen now, everyone agreed--and still does I assume-- that Joyce was and is an integral part of out community. She always has a kind word for you if you needed one, she asks about your family, she loves your pets, she give them dog biscuits, she collects money for charity, she arranges group outtings to the Newark Bears games for communters. She lent you money if you needed it. As such, the people came to her assistance when she needed them.
Within a few days we had over twelve hundred signatures of dedicated customers who vowed to oppose any change at the station including a boycott of any large corporate business which might take over the coffee shop. We presented those signatures to NJT. We called them. Within days we had a meeting scheduled with Bob Klein, AJC and a representative from NJT. We also had the mayor's attention -- at that time Vic De Luca was the mayor and he also attended the meeting. We had several lawyers who volunteered their time for Joyce. We all met on several evenings to renegotiate Joyce's lease so that is was completely restructured to ensure a monthly flow of rent. There was an agreement signed and agreed to by all -- AJC included, after much prodding from his sensible wife and Bob Klein who was very cooperative.
The agreement was signed at a time when Joyce worked the coffee shop alone, before she became disabled. Her rent was set based upon a fair assessment of the money that was owed to NYT by the Concierge, which had been in arrears on its rent at the time and what Joyce was offering to guarantee to pay each month. AJC's statement that she got a special rent in order to pay her sister is totally inaccurate and misleading. In fact, Elaine was not working at the shop at that time and now she is volunteering there because Joyce is recovering from several surgeries on her shoulder. Elaine does not not get paid.
For those of us who want to see Pen and Jen continue to run their teahouse in Maplewood, I can only suggest that the commuters and customers get together and make their support known to NJT and others in authority so that Pen and Jen feel that it would be worth their while to stay in Maplewood -- not only financially but also to sustain the friendships and goodwill they have created by their presence here. Petitions are always a good place to start.
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sam6
Citizen
Username: Sam6
Post Number: 43
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 6:04 pm: |
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Art,
I think it is time to stop this thread and discuss all of this in a more private way. Bob agrees. He wanted me to post this.
Thanks |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 5335
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 9:26 pm: |
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Paul, this will be my last comment on this thread.
I just spoke to Bob and we agreed that this matter needs to be resolved through private talks with the parties directly involved. Because you and I have history together, and with all due respect, I will private line you with regards to your wife’s depressing portrayal of past issues at the station, she has it all wrong again anyway...
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BGS
Supporter
Username: Bgs
Post Number: 1163
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 10:45 am: |
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AJC- I pl'd you |
cecilia david
Citizen
Username: Ceciliadav569
Post Number: 33
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 8:26 am: |
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OK it is official that Pen and Jen want to stay in the Train Station/ So what is the answer from the Powers at be. If they want to stay and they do have support from the community. What is the issue Mr. Christiansen? Do we need to do a petition to prove the support? Step up to the plate and let us know what needs to be done. |
doulamomma
Citizen
Username: Doulamomma
Post Number: 1649
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 8:58 am: |
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I'll happily help with a petition, Cecilia...I tknow a few other who will as well. |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 5354
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 1:34 pm: |
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"What is the issue Mr. Christensen?"
I was at the plate, but I don't do curve balls very well. I'll repeat, there was never an issue coming from me about them leaving the station... check it out. However, seeing as you and the Doulmomma seem to have a thing for petitions, go right ahead if that's what the girls want you to do...
Last month Pen and Jen made a deal we all agreed on and then they changed their minds. I have always supported everything and anything they ever wanted to do at the station, including expanding their space. They have not contacted me personally since we all originally met with NJ Transit last month. It appears from what you just posted they may have changed their minds again. Being you have the "Official" word from them, why don't you and the rest of the power brokers handle this matter.
Personally I've had enough of all this foolishness and at this point I don't care what anyone wants to do. One thing is for sure, nobody wants to do the work to run the train, but as soon as anyone else blows the whistle, then everyone wants to jump on board.
Listen up, any future decisions regarding the comings and goings at the train station can be handled by petition if that's what everyone wants... It seems that's the way more and more things happen in town anyway. Let us know how it all works out.
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doulamomma
Citizen
Username: Doulamomma
Post Number: 1658
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 4, 2006 - 6:30 pm: |
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I'm very excited to hear that Pen & Jen really do want to stay in the train station, providing their wonderful teas, popovers and place to gather as a community. In an effort to let The Township Committee know my feelings, I'm sending emails (in lieu of petition) expressing my support for Pen & Jen's - hopefully others who share my enthusiasm for Green Tea Macha Lattes, blueberry scones or any of the other offerings will do the same. The members are Mayor Fred Profeta, David Huemer, Kathleen Leventhal, Ken Pettis, and Victor DeLuca. They can be reached at the Municipal Bldg at 574 Valley Street, but their emails are listed in the Maplewood Leaflet as frp713@aol.com, huemer1@comcast.net, KLeventhal@aol.com, kap07040@yahoo.com, and vic@igc.org.
Hopefully all parties concerned can work it out!
Best,
DoulaMomma |
Lydia
Supporter
Username: Lydial
Post Number: 2102
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, August 5, 2006 - 5:38 pm: |
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I really hope Pen and Jen's stays - I love the cozy feeling the train station has on the weekends - kids playing, knitters - it's a wonderful organic community that I would be so disappointed to see close up shop.
Pen and Jen's managed to create a funky little gem that Maplewood should not let slip away. If I was looking to move to Maplewood/SO or Montclair, getting off the train and seeing that even the train station has a good vibe would be a few points extra for Maplewood. |
lah
Citizen
Username: Lah
Post Number: 433
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 6, 2006 - 9:34 pm: |
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I'm glad they're back. I hope they stay.
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Scully
Citizen
Username: Scully
Post Number: 888
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, August 6, 2006 - 11:12 pm: |
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If Art wants them to stay, and they want to stay, why are petitions and email campaigns necessary? |
cecilia david
Citizen
Username: Ceciliadav569
Post Number: 35
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 2:21 pm: |
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I think the real question is the first one. Has that been answered? cecilia david |
Scully
Citizen
Username: Scully
Post Number: 899
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 7:21 pm: |
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I checked out the 'first' question. It was:
'What's the story with Pen and Jen's shutting down at the train station???'
My question stands... |
doulamomma
Citizen
Username: Doulamomma
Post Number: 1669
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 8:26 pm: |
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Not sure, but maybe the first question meant was "If Art wants them to stay"... |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 5377
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 10:27 pm: |
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...asked and answered! |
Scully
Citizen
Username: Scully
Post Number: 903
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 10:30 pm: |
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But the rest of the thread WAS Art saying that he wanted them to stay! What am I missing here? |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 5378
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 10:51 pm: |
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Art has moved on and it's time for everyone else to do the same... |
doulamomma
Citizen
Username: Doulamomma
Post Number: 1672
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 1:49 pm: |
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Well Art,
Respectfully, "the girls" (your words (possibly a term of endearment?);I prefer just "Pen & Jen" since I see them as business women and think they deserve to be treated as such) have reopened and I know that many of us hope that a deal can be worked out and want to let that be known...so move on if you like, but I'll decide when the time is right for me to move on, OK PAL? ;-) (been wanting to try to find a way to use "pal"!)
Scully:
It seems that at the very least there has been a communication breakdown between parties and possibly a misunderstanding of the intentions of Pen & Jen, since they are not posting. I, a humble tea drinker, want all potentially involved in the well-being of our town to know that Pen & Jen's is valued by many...
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ajc
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Username: Ajc
Post Number: 5382
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 2:54 pm: |
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..."the girls" is a term of endearment. If you prefer "Pen & Jen" you can call them anything you like, pal...
I'll say it again, it's time for me to move on. If you really care about these business women, I suggest you speak with them directly and allow them to speak for themselves. |
doulamomma
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Username: Doulamomma
Post Number: 1673
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 3:12 pm: |
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Thanks Art, I wasn't sure you were still following this thread.
I have spoken with them directly & respect their decision not to participate in a message board discussion regarding their business...I certainly only speak for *myself* here when I say that I value their establishment & that I hope all concerned will work to keep a popular business around. I have no idea whether the town council has any influence over such matters, but it seems like an OK place to let my feelings be known abount a matter impacting the town. |
ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 5384
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 3:40 pm: |
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"I have spoken with them directly & respect their decision not to participate in a message board discussion regarding their business..."
...thank you. |
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