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ajc
Citizen Username: Ajc
Post Number: 3862 Registered: 9-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, June 7, 2005 - 6:31 pm: |    |
Here’s 2 the Arts is proud to announce that beginning this week we will bring new meaning to “Dinner Dinning in Maplewood Village”. In addition to our regular nightly entertainment schedule, we will be serving food Wednesday through Saturday nights, from 7PM until closing. Please try us for dinner the next time you’re in town. Now along with Chef Scott, our celebrated dessert chef, we are pleased to welcome Chef’s Luis & Vivian who will prepare and serve for your dinning pleasure, selections from their delicious and mouth-watering Greek family recipe’s. Maplewood and South Orange has long had great dinning venues for just about everyone; American, Italian, French, Irish, Indian, Caribbean, Mexican, Chinese, Japanese, Soul, and now we invite you to taste the newest, “Mediterranean Cuisine”, A la H2TA. Our nightly appetizer specials will include a variety of exotic Mediterranean delicacies, Greek Spinach and Meatballs, Chicken, Beef, and Shrimp Kebobs, interesting fondue and crepe specialties, fabulous desserts, and of course our always refreshing selection of drinks. Seating is limited and reservations are always welcomed. Call, (973) 762-ARTS (2787) Master Card, Visa, American Express cards are welcome. BTW, don’t forget Monday is Comedy Night, and every Tuesday is Karaoke Night. Come on down and compete for a cash prize and the title of our “Maplewood Idol of the Week".
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ajc
Citizen Username: Ajc
Post Number: 3866 Registered: 9-2001

| Posted on Wednesday, June 8, 2005 - 7:48 pm: |    |
Whatsamatta, no one interested in Mediterranean Cuisine? I guess I should of thought about why there are no Mediterranean restaurants in town... You guys don't know what you're missing, this stuff is great. Just in case you want a late night snack, we'll be there long after everyone else in town stops serving food! I have an idea. Does anyone know of any Belly Dancers looking for work? ;-)
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shh
Citizen Username: Shh
Post Number: 2605 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, June 8, 2005 - 9:34 pm: |    |
Could you post a real menu, maybe prices too? Sounds promising, but we need more detailed info! |
   
luv2cruise
Citizen Username: Luv2cruise
Post Number: 394 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 5:06 am: |    |
Maybe people are tired of your ruthless self advertising and spelling (dinning) |
   
Arthur Gartenlaub
Citizen Username: Artg
Post Number: 45 Registered: 4-2004

| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 8:25 am: |    |
luv2cruise, How about this for low key...please check the "Food menu" at www.heres2thearts.com. Thank you, Art |
   
Dego Diva
Citizen Username: Fmingione
Post Number: 512 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 12:54 pm: |    |
I love hearing about new dining options, but yeah, I have to agree with luv2c, the blatant in my face advertizing is a bit of a turn-off, especially when others have gotten slapped on the wrist by Dave for doing far less. |
   
susan1014
Supporter Username: Susan1014
Post Number: 675 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 1:49 pm: |    |
I too get turned off by the exemption that the Arts seem to have from the advertising rules enforced on other posters. I generally ignore it, but I think it is poor form to take your free advertising and then yell at us for not responding to it. Maybe I'll come in some day, but honestly, I live a lot closer to the Dancing Goat, so tend to go there if I'm looking for dinner in a coffeehouse/performance space. |
   
ajc
Citizen Username: Ajc
Post Number: 3873 Registered: 9-2001

| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 2:03 pm: |    |
Dego Diva, __________________________________________________ Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 8:50pm: Heart & Soul is only doing catering for the summer, and Jesse will re-open the restaurant in September. I was hoping to catch one last dinner tonight, but I guess I'm too late. I miss that yummy food already. Can't wait for Memorial Day when I'll bring some of those delicious ribs for the family bbq. Please support Jesse during the summer if you can - we definitely want him back in September! __________________________________________________ FYI Dego, I advertise on MOL and support every local business in our community every chance I can, especially your friend Jesse, as you requested in your post above. As for you and your friend Cruiser's comments about my blatant and ruthless in your face advertizing; I suggest you scroll past my posts in the future. You talk about "In your face advertising". What the hell do you call your comments to me, in my face Ball-Busting? On our "Opening Night" I introduce a brand new food service to town, a couple of new chefs, and that's in your face advertising? Thanks pal, it's people like you and L2C that scare off other businesses and posters from advertising or even posting on Maplewoodonline... If anyone needs a slap in the face, the two of you sure do! |
   
Wendyn
Supporter Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 1791 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 2:16 pm: |    |
Chill out Art. You have a great facility and are promoting it to the hilt, and pay for the privilege. Good for you, great for Maplewood. But the obnoxious fonts and constant thread bumping gets old. Makes me not want to patronize your place. Maybe you should try to ignore the hateful tone of the previous posts (really only Cruise's was hateful) and take some constructive criticism. Art G's post was perfect. If your original post had, in a normal font, let people know about your new offerings and posted the menu, and bumped it in a less aggresive tone (like using the word "bump") it wouldn't rub people the wrong way. Many of us old timers are used to your posting style, but it still turns me and probably many newbies off. |
   
ajc
Citizen Username: Ajc
Post Number: 3874 Registered: 9-2001

| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 2:17 pm: |    |
"Maybe I'll come in some day..." Dear Susan1014, Well, that's better! Thank you, and if and when you do stop in some day, please ask for me, your meal will be on me. BTW, I believe the problem that Dave has with free advertising is when someone self-promotes who doesn't have a banner ad.
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ajc
Citizen Username: Ajc
Post Number: 3875 Registered: 9-2001

| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 2:40 pm: |    |
"If your original post had, in a normal font, let people know about your new offerings and posted the menu, and bumped it in a less aggressive tone (like using the word "bump") it wouldn't rub people the wrong way." Thanks Wendyn... I know I could be perfect for everyone else if: 1. If I just lost 25 lbs. 2. If I cut my hair shorter. 3. If I stopped using obnoxious fonts. 4. If I didn't thread bump. 5. If I ignored the hateful tone of some posts. 6. If I was more like Art G. 7. If I took more constructive criticism. 8. If I was more normal like everyone else. 9. If I was less aggressive. 10. If I didn't rub people the wrong way. 11. If I would change my style. 12. If I could only be perfect like who? Listen, besides Joan Crystal, who else should I try to be more like? ;-)
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shh
Citizen Username: Shh
Post Number: 2616 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 2:44 pm: |    |
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Tom Reingold
Supporter Username: Noglider
Post Number: 7461 Registered: 1-2003

| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 2:48 pm: |    |
Art, it's OK. We love you. |
   
ajc
Citizen Username: Ajc
Post Number: 3877 Registered: 9-2001

| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 2:51 pm: |    |
...thanks Tom, at my age I'm really starting to worry about it. :-) |
   
Tom Reingold
Supporter Username: Noglider
Post Number: 7463 Registered: 1-2003

| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 2:54 pm: |    |
And wear your hair long, so I can live vicariously through you. Mine used to look like yours. Seriously, you really made the point above, anyway. We're not perfect, and we can apologize for that, and you did, yet we are still lovable. And while we're on a thread about your cafe, I'm really impressed with how fast it has taken off. A lot happens there. It wasn't long ago when it was just a concept. |
   
Wendyn
Supporter Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 1793 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 2:58 pm: |    |
More like Art G, as I said! Though Joan is always a good role model. Seriously keep up the good work, both at H2TA and Maplewood in general. I am looking forward to trying H2TA out...as soon as I am actually going out to dinner. That happens very infrequently now I am afraid. |
   
Tom Reingold
Supporter Username: Noglider
Post Number: 7464 Registered: 1-2003

| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 3:00 pm: |    |
Wendyn, email me if you need a babysitter. My 16 year old is in the biz. noglider@pobox.com
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Wendyn
Supporter Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 1796 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 3:11 pm: |    |
Tom, I think you said she wants kids out of diapers, right? Maybe next year... |
   
Tom Reingold
Supporter Username: Noglider
Post Number: 7467 Registered: 1-2003

| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 3:16 pm: |    |
Right. I forgot your kids' ages. I swear, I love babies so much, I'm tempted to babysit kids who are still in diapers. |
   
AlleyGater
Citizen Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 455 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 3:28 pm: |    |
I think one Joan is enough for MOL, you stay the way you are Art. As for the bigger issue of using the boards as a form of advertising (NOT THROUGH AD BANNERS), all I can say is that there is no rule that I know of that says that if you buy an ad on MOL it means you can start your own threads about your business. If that was the case how many ads does one need to invest to gain this priviledge? Is it an ongoing payment that you need to make? If Dave would just post the rules I think there would be less complaining about it. This is NOT the first time this issue has come up and I am ALWAYS curious why Dave or Jamie usually ignores the whole thread and posts no reply. I am NOT a business owner and I like H2tA so it's not like you can say I have an invested interest in this matter other than the following fact. MOL would become FAR less useful and pleasant to use if all of the other MOL banner ad buyers started creating their own threads to tell us about their great services. It isn't hard to imagine a time when I go into the Home Fixit section and 3/4 of the threads are actually telling us about a new sale or service at some local home decorator, plumber, landscaper, etc. Now imagine if ALL the sections were like that and it was hard to find the actual content that the users posted from the infomercial posts. My personal feeling on the matter is this though: If Dave doesn't state what the rules are, you have to expect people to be confused and for there to be issues that arise. I also feel that if it's fair game to post a thread that promotes your store (WHICH IS AN ADVERTISEMENT NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT) and an event at your store, then you need to realize that other people might criticize you. Heres a news flash for you all, PEOPLE HATE ADVERTISEMENTS, they are a nuisance. The popularity of Tivo is mostly because people love the idea of being able to skip commercials. Now I understand that this post was MEANT to be informational and many took it that way, but you have no right to jump down someones throat for also feeling it was just a straight up advertisment and being irritated by it. Sorry but that is my 2 cents. |
   
Robert Livingston
Citizen Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1045 Registered: 7-2004

| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 3:48 pm: |    |
And don't you just love it when a store owner berates you for not paying enough attention to their product? A very unique marketing strategy. |
   
SoOrLady
Citizen Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 2210 Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 4:11 pm: |    |
I don't know guys - I'm not a fan of Art's use of fontage, but if he didn't let us know that H2tA's was now serving dinner, how would we know? I don't mind him letting us know what's new and improved. As for the hair - one bald Art and one long locked Art - perfect together!
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Frodo Lives
Citizen Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 1692 Registered: 9-2001

| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 5:12 pm: |    |
The beauty of Arts is in the eyes of the beholder. |
   
ajc
Citizen Username: Ajc
Post Number: 3878 Registered: 9-2001

| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 6:20 pm: |    |
Alleygater, Thank you for YOUR clear and well stated comments. I have to agree with you on the advertising points you're making. It's a problem, and I guess I'm not helping matters with my posting style. However, I truly believe there's a need for different kinds of local businesses and organizations to spread the word about upcoming events. As you said, I agree it would help if there were some on-line guidelines that helped clarify where, when, and how often we can self promote these events, if at all... IMHO, to a small degree there's always a need to self promote, and whether it's done by the owner, or a friend of the owner is where I have my problem with the whole concept. Not all businesses will do it anyway. Libby as an example has never posted on line and is frightened to death when I do, or if her business name is mentioned in a thread. She doesn't want to be trashed by some customer who got less than perfect service at her salon. Unfortunately, sooner or later we all screw up and that's one of the costs of being in your own business. How we handle ourselves when we do is where we separate the men from the boys.... Listen, I'll make you a deal. (I love deals.) Until we get some better guide lines, I'm going to take the advice of you and others and stop my so called annoying posting style when directly or indirectly self promoting. With other posts, I will also agree to stop using all the other gismo's, size, color, font, etc. when they are removed from the Message Board... Fair enough? BTW, don't forget about SOMBI and Janet Albright tonight... ;-)
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AlleyGater
Citizen Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 457 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 6:34 pm: |    |
I mean if the site allows it then it must be fair game right? |
   
ajc
Citizen Username: Ajc
Post Number: 3879 Registered: 9-2001

| Posted on Thursday, June 9, 2005 - 9:30 pm: |    |
...it works for me!
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luv2cruise
Citizen Username: Luv2cruise
Post Number: 395 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 6:51 am: |    |
Thank you Art G for your post. Very professional and to the point. By the way, I checked out the link and was impressed. I'll stop by one night when the other Art isn't there. |
   
ajc
Citizen Username: Ajc
Post Number: 3880 Registered: 9-2001

| Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 5:22 pm: |    |
... that will be tonight. |
   
BGS
Citizen Username: Bgs
Post Number: 77 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 4:16 pm: |    |
Art-perhaps I missed a notice-I thought that Chef Jesse was catering for 6 consecutive Wednesday nights...did that deal fall thru?
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ajc
Citizen Username: Ajc
Post Number: 3886 Registered: 9-2001

| Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 10:57 pm: |    |
Yes BGS, we're very sorry to say it did... Jesse said he needed to work his own store and was getting too busy with his catering to be over here on Wednesday nights. It was sure great while it lasted, and our customers loved it. We actually totally understand. His food is sooooo gooood.... We hope to try again to do some special events with him in the Fall when things calm down more for him. In the mean time we're very excited about doing our own thing here Wednesday through Saturday nights. You know how it goes, one door closes and another opens. So far its been a great response from everyone. Honestly, I don't know how much longer we could have kept it going just selling coffee and dessert. If it wasn't for doing all the private parties and events we would have had to close months ago. BTW, if you can believe it, in two weeks we're pleased to say we'll be celebrating our 1st year Anniversary Party!!!
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