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Dust Buster
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Posted on Monday, August 29, 2005 - 10:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In the past couple of months Starbucks coffee has developed a metallic taste. Have they been cleaning their pots with a new chemical? Has anybody complained?
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growler
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Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 10:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dusty - Might I suggest trying a cup of coffee at one of the non-commercialized local joints?
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Cubeless
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Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 10:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What local joints (non-commercialized) do you think have the best coffee? I'm not fond of the Village Coffee Shop's coffee. I do like Dancing Goat's, but the hours aren't convenient. I have not tried Cafe Sage. Where else is there?
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Bill P
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Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 11:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just had my first cup ever from Net Nomads up on Springfield ... pretty good.
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ffof
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Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 11:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

make your own?
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growler
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Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 12:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, yes...make my own is first on my list as I like a really strong, bold, full flavored cup. Next is Net Nomads and then Dancing Goat.
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redY67
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Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 12:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jamaican Blue Mountain Coffee in a french press.....the best.
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greenetree
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Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 1:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Funny - Net Nomards uses Green Mountain, which I'm not so fond of. Sage makes a good latte. Parkwood Diner has good decaf.
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LilLB
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Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 1:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Net Nomads has incredible hot chocolate. Haven't had it since December, but man it was good.
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redY67
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Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 1:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I was pregnant with my second I loved the Starbucks hot chocolate, nothing better.
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Cubeless
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Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 3:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is NetNomads ever busy? Seems like whenever I stop by or drive by, it's empty. Maybe it's just the times I'm there?
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Leonard Neeble
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Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 6:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't go to NetNomads often, but the owner always says business is good. Perhaps it's a steady trickle throughout the day.

I don't understand buying brewed cups of coffee, except for special circumstances. I pay $6 a pound for really good beans from Fairway or Zabars. Zabars will ship to your house. I order from http://www.zabars.com. A pound lasts me only about three weeks because I brew it strong. But $6 what you'd pay for two cups at Starbucks?
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Cubeless
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Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 9:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think there is a misconception that Starbucks regular brewed coffee is $3-4 a cup. It's usually between $1.50 and $1.75. I believe Dunkin Donuts (or any coffee shop for that matter) is around $1.50 also. If you're ordering lattes and espresso drinks, that's a different story.

It's difficult to always brew your own coffee especially when you're on the road a lot or if you're short on time.
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RR
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Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 2:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i'm an ex-starbucks, current dunkin donuts drinker...but i have to tell you...joyce's coffee (the concession at the train station) is superior to both. i don't know how she does it.
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RR
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Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 2:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

by concession at the train station, i mean at the maplewood station and i don't mean pen & jen's.
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Cubeless
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Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 3:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are they only open in the morning at the train station?

I like the coffee at the Parkwood Diner....weird...usually diner coffee is lame.
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RR
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Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 3:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i believe she is open only in the morning, yeah.
i get a cup every morning for the train ride...although she was closed last week and this week...think she had to facilitate a move to college for someone.
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Leonard Neeble
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Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 3:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Parkwood Diner proved to me that "good diner food" is not necessarily an oxymoron. I've been there twice this week!

Cubeless, to each his own, but even $1.50 a cup seems like a lot to me. It takes me about three minutes to clean up from yesterday and get the brew going. My wild guess is that coffee at home costs me about $0.30 a cup. $1.20 a day is $438 a year.
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Bill P
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Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 6:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Leonard,

You are selfishly hoarding your dollars at a time when the American economy needs to people to spend money like it's going out of style. Why do you hate America? Because you just spent a couple of weeks in France?



For some reason I thought your new avatar was Frank the designer from TLC's "Trading Spaces."
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Cubeless
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Posted on Thursday, September 1, 2005 - 12:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe it's not that I'm short on time...just lazy. Well, whatever the case, I spend a lot of time traveling and it is most convenient (and in my opinion worth every penny of $1.50ish) to be able to grab coffee any time of day.
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deannel
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Posted on Sunday, September 4, 2005 - 7:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the support, everyone.

Greenetree, one of my customers pointed this thread out and asked that I clarify something. My brewed coffees are Green Mountain, but my espresso-based drinks are Palombini, from an Italian importer named Tri-Color Importers. They are also the source of the Italian Cocoa that LilLB is fond of. (Thanks, LilLb). They did an article a couple of years ago in the New York Times touting Palombini as the 'secret'ingredient of some of the best chefs in New York, and my importer carried that article around in his pocket till it fell apart! :-) Our lattes start with great beans, recently ground, and include the best milk in the tri-state area. (We get that delivered twice a week from http://www.suncrestmilkman.com ; fresh, hormone and anti-biotic free.) Suncrest is another long-established business and we have them to thank for the really great new 'super-skim' milk. It has an incredibly clean, fresh taste, and a lot of body.

Tri-Color is a 45-year old business, family-owned & have been very generous with their time over the last 6 years teaching me about Italian coffees and cocoa.

Green Mountain is a good, solid coffee that is round and full without that 'burnt' taste. What my customers seem to like best is their rotation of flavors. Customers have been happily slurping Wild Mountain Blueberry all summer and Pumpkin Spice will begin this week. By rotating the flavors they ensure high quality, fresh coffee, along with variety. The added plus is that at least two of the coffees at any given time are Free Trade Coffees, including the Blueberry and the Pumpkin Spice, and also the Autumn Roast, which will start this week.

Hope this clarifies things some.

Sincerely,

Deanne
NetNomads
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msg
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Posted on Sunday, September 4, 2005 - 10:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Crane's has excellent coffee too. Especially iced.
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Noglider
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Posted on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 - 3:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Coffee Clash
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/13/AR2005081300941. html
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greenetree
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Posted on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 - 3:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks, Deanne.

I'm a decaf drinker & not really into flavored coffees, so I haven't tried the Green Mountain flavors that you list. I still find the GM decaf variations (Vermont Country, etc.) to be bitter or weak.

But, I drive by your place on the way to work in the a.m. If I ever manage to not be running late, I'll pick up a decaf skim latte! I must confess, tho, that this is a big "if". I am always late for work. Have been for 20+ years.
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deannel
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Posted on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 - 5:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And we'll look forward to meeting you on that fateful day! :-)
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Soulful Mr T
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Posted on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 - 5:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My favorite coffee is at Tara's on Valley. They use Green Mountain and it's always fresh and they have multiple flavors. Village Coffee in the village is good too, but Tara's has the very best bagels around. The best. They're fatter and chewier and, well, better than any others I've found around here. I don't know where they get them.
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growler
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Posted on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 - 5:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Try Sonny's on SO Ave.
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deannel
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Posted on Wednesday, September 7, 2005 - 6:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's where we get ours, growler. For as long as I've lived here, it's hard to beat them.
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angel
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Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 2:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Village Coffee in the village is the first place i see that offers varity of chai tea they have decaf chai, green tea chai, ginger chai plus some others i can't remember. they also have varity of coffee and flavor lattes my favorite is Banana mocha soya latte mmmmmm very good. my mom goes for the almond sugar-free skim latte. thums up
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Bill P
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Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 9:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stopped in NetNomads yesterday and I have to say the Autumn Roast did not disappoint. I like more flavorful coffee but a full French Roast can be a little jarring first thing. The Autumn Roast falls somewhere between the Vermont Blend and French and is very tasty. I especially like a coffee that can stand up to some cream and sweetener.

Unfortunately that's not usually the way I go to work, but I'll likely be stopping in more.

And fer crying out loud, folks, could you bring deanne some small bills? The bank doesn't open until 9:00, already.
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tom
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Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 10:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Deanne, I KNEW there was a reason your lattes are so good!
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Diane Smith
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Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 5:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

surprisingly, kings has excellent coffee, better and cheaper then The village coffee shop. I was shopping one day and i desided to try a cup. very pleased.
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mwoodwalk
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Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 9:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm with Mr. Reingold, do the brew at home, and if you're selective in what you buy, you get great coffee for much less. We buy from a place, portorico importers (located in the West Village, of all places) that has fantastic, I mean fantastic blends for $6/lb (and there's always a sale blend of the week (for $4; and semi-annually, EVERYTHING, goes on sale---we buy and freeze the pounds). As a matter of fact, the Dancing Goat's standard coffee (I think its called "house" or "cafe" is the very same "cafe blend" from Porto Rico, or at least it was under the previous ownership, as we were informed when dining there one morning). Of course, it's not always convenient to brew your own, and for those times, I buy the burnt stuff at Starbucks, it's the best of an otherwise undesirable option (at lest for me).

Happy coffee drinking all!

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mwoodwalk
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Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 9:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also, FYI, you can get the porto rico coffee shipped UPS, and it STILL way cheaper.

http://www.portorico.com
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Sylvia Jacobs
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Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 9:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you're going to go with Puerto Rico, might I recommend Pete's Blend? :-) That's my choice!
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mwoodwalk
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Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pete's is excellent indeed. My mother in law drinks that all the time.

For that matter, practically all their blends are great. We've been on a cafe blend kick here recently. Danish blend is great too.


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angel
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Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 1:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tried a cup of Jazzy java coffee at the Village coffee shop today. What a great way to start your day
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deannel
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Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 7:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks so much for the kind words, Bill. (and tom, i spike yours...)

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