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Boomie
Citizen
Username: Boomie
Post Number: 237
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 4, 2005 - 6:36 pm: |     |
buttery aftertaste preferred, under $15? |
shazzie31
Citizen
Username: Shazzie
Post Number: 13
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 4, 2005 - 7:42 pm: | |
LaCrema. yummy! Price of $12.37 at Total Wine is unbeatable. |
Boomie
Citizen
Username: Boomie
Post Number: 240
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 4, 2005 - 8:41 pm: | |
I like that one too Shaz. |
Fisherp
Citizen
Username: Fisherp
Post Number: 8
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 - 9:51 am: | |
Meridian and Rodney Strong are both easy choices! |
LilLB
Citizen
Username: Lillb
Post Number: 950
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 - 10:02 am: | |
Clos du Bois & Clos du Val are on my list |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 7529
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 - 12:02 pm: | |
http://www.fairview.co.za/wines/roam/gdrw.html
(not a chardonnay.... there are no good chardonnays < $20)
Should be about $8 |
Soulful Mr T
Citizen
Username: Howardt
Post Number: 917
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 - 12:07 pm: | |
I don't drink Chardonnay. I don't. I won't. Ick.
I like Pinot Grigio for an inexpensive white. If I'm gonna spend more, I like Sancerre or a nice white burgandy. |
Soulful Mr T
Citizen
Username: Howardt
Post Number: 918
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 - 12:07 pm: | |
Did I say "ick?" I did? Good. Ick. |
kriss
Citizen
Username: Kriss
Post Number: 194
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 - 12:18 pm: | |
God, is there anything worse than a wine snob? Or two?
William Hill is a nice chardonnay. It's 14.99 at wine.com. Not sure what it is at Total Wine. |
Soulful Mr T
Citizen
Username: Howardt
Post Number: 919
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 - 12:19 pm: | |
Only one thing worse than a wine snob: a Chardonnay.
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Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 7530
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 - 12:21 pm: | |
Not a snob, just an opinion. Snobs don't make $8 recommendations. To me, most chardonnays tend to parch my mouth, be overly oaky and make me wince a bit. Kind of like eating a pineapple.  |
Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 7531
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 - 12:21 pm: | |
LOL @ Mr T |
Hank Zona
Supporter
Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 4418
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 - 12:29 pm: | |
I agree...there is nothing worse than a wine snob! But saying ick about a wine or wine style you dont like isnt snobbery, especially when the person says they prefer an inexpensive pinot grigio. Now if someone said, all chardonnays under $20 are swill...thats snobbery (and not true). I do not prefer malo monsters myself (its the malolactic fermentation, a secondary fermentation, that tames the acidic properties a bit and gives that buttery mouthfeel).
Mr. T..I prefer a crisp white Burgundy too when it comes to chardonnay.
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Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 7532
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 - 12:31 pm: | |
Chardonnays < $7 are swill.  |
Hank Zona
Supporter
Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 4420
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 - 12:49 pm: | |
in addition to "wine snobs", there are also "wine geeks" and "wine sluts" and "ABC'ers" (Anything But Chardonnay/Cabernet).  |
Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 7533
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 - 12:52 pm: | |
And the vicious, take-no-prisoners Shiraz Brigade.
And the dastardly Malbec Malcontents. |
Dego Diva
Citizen
Username: Fmingione
Post Number: 611
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 - 3:34 pm: | |
T, if you're not into Chardonney, have you tried a nice Viognier? It's not as wet and light as a Grigio, but not nearly as dry, oaky, and buttery as Chardonney. It has a hint of sweetness and a full texture that carries itself well from salad, to entree, to dessert. I love it!
Trader Joe's has a very inexpensive brand to try - Honey Moon. I think it's $6. |
Soulful Mr T
Citizen
Username: Howardt
Post Number: 921
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 - 3:39 pm: | |
Dago,
Yes, I've tried Viongier. And I like it... sometimes.
Sometimes it's appley, peary and sometimes it's just sweet. Sometimes it's a nice wine with food and sometimes it's like a dessert wine, a sauterne or a muscat beaume de venise. BTW, I LOVE muscat beaume de venise even if I can't spell it.
Viongier can also be expensive. But, yes, as a rule I like it. |
Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 7534
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 - 4:50 pm: | |
Viognier is yummy. Reminds me of pinot grigios from Friuli. |
Hank Zona
Supporter
Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 4425
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 - 5:16 pm: | |
pinot grigios from Friuli remind me of pinot gris from Alsace more than it does pinot grigio from Alto Adige... viognier reminds me of a drier gewurztraminer or a wine that is made upstate NY from a grape with Eastern European roots...rkatsitelli. |
Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 7535
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 - 5:18 pm: | |
Like a Tokaj? |
kws
Citizen
Username: Kws
Post Number: 110
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 - 5:44 pm: | |
They've been planting chardonnay grapes in the beaujolais region of France for awhile now and the harvest this year was fantastic. I don't know if any of these wines will make it to the states, but if they do pick some up. I find that the French chardonnays in general match well with what's on the plate, they don't overpower the food like American and Australian chards tend to. |
SOSully
Citizen
Username: Sullymw
Post Number: 852
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, October 6, 2005 - 9:38 am: | |
Sounds like "Sideways"....I'm not drinking any f-ing Merlot |
jeffl
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Username: Jeffl
Post Number: 1364
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, October 6, 2005 - 10:41 am: | |
Anyone ever try Vernaccia? |
Hank Zona
Supporter
Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 4433
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, October 6, 2005 - 11:18 am: | |
I have not, jeff...is it something that Anheuser-Busch bottles? |
Scott
Citizen
Username: Selnychef
Post Number: 70
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, October 6, 2005 - 6:52 pm: | |
Dave, if you like Viognier, you must try Sokol Blosser's "Evolution". It is made with nine different varietals and is sooo food friendly. . |
jeffl
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Username: Jeffl
Post Number: 1366
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, October 6, 2005 - 9:32 pm: | |
Vernaccia (http://www.seetuscany.com/food/vernac.htm) is a really nice, dry, smooth, Italian white under $10. Try it out. I prefer it over Pinot Grigio. |
Dego Diva
Citizen
Username: Fmingione
Post Number: 613
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 7, 2005 - 1:35 pm: | |
Scott, if you like "Evolution" try Caymus Conundrum. It's made with several varities too and is also very versatile. Usually about $25-30 a bottle though. |
davidbuckley
Citizen
Username: Davidbuckley
Post Number: 369
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 9, 2005 - 10:31 pm: | |
I don't think I see any wine snobs here but I do see generalizations which are usually treacherous.
Chardonnay is a grape. Much wine made from chardonnay grapes is called chardonnay (particularly here) but much wine made from chardonnay grapes is not called chardonnay (such as most white burgundy, Mr. T.)
I also prefer the drier, non-oaky, non-malolactically fermented ones. Not to say, however, that oak is by definition a bad thing...some great wine flavors come from oak and many great wines (red and white) spend time in oak. Throwing down a gauntlet, T, I bet you could find a chablis (white burgundy, made of chardonnay grapes) that you would love. Dave, I love pineapples (!) and you can find unoaked chardonnay; I have had some delicious american ones in the past few years.
I take great pleasure in finding delicious reasonable cost wines (meaning under $20 and preferably under $15; good wines can be had for less than $10 but it is hard work to find 'em). Try wines you've never heard of, track importers and producers and when you find one bringing in or making wine you like try their other wines; mostly, be adventurous within your budget, splurge occasionally and don't generalize!
Drink well, all.
David |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 951
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 4:06 pm: | |
Cheers to davidbuckley for good advice. There's a difference between wine snobbery and having enough knowledge about good wine to understand a wine list, know what you read on a label, understand what you like and why, and know when a wine steward is jiving you. IMHO. |
Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 7588
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 4:29 pm: | |
How I hate jiving stewards.
(beat you to it, cmonty) |
Cubeless
Citizen
Username: Cubey
Post Number: 254
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 6:24 pm: | |
For a tasty, inexpensive Chardonnay, I like the Mad Fish (Australia) it's about $12 or so. Not aged in oak. I haven't had the '03, but the '02 was great...definite hint of pineapple. I believe Wine Library and Gary's carry it.
If you're looking for an "unoaked" Chardonnay, quite a few of the North Fork Long Island wineries make nice, light Chardonnays. And it's just a few hours away by car...well, depending on traffic of course. |
Boomie
Citizen
Username: Boomie
Post Number: 244
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 6:39 pm: | |
Thank you David!!!! |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 952
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 8:17 pm: | |
OK, here goes:
For a cool zone Chardonnay, I have liked the Criots-Batard-Montrachets that I have tasted and almost gone broke on. Full-bodied and intense.
On the warm zone side, I have really liked the Knappstein-Lenswood chardonnay (Australian) which did not force me to dig as deeply into my pockets. Nice oak in this one--- just enough to let the fruit come through.
In between the two is a long list of good stuff. I could go on... |
stubelou
Citizen
Username: Stubelou
Post Number: 24
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 2:08 pm: | |
if you can find it try, luis latour's "grande ardeche" it's abnout $8.00 a bottle and is made from pure chardonnay grape. a beautiful expression of what the grape is all about |
stubelou
Citizen
Username: Stubelou
Post Number: 25
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 2:12 pm: | |
oh yeah, another great inexpensive white is "torrantes" the body of a gewurtz with acidity of a pinot gris and the flavor characteristics of chardonnay. |
Peter
Citizen
Username: Peter
Post Number: 81
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 2:23 pm: | |
Navarro Vineyards. Mail order only (curse NJ's crooked wine distibrutors, and the legislature, too). www.navarrowine.com |
drewdix
Citizen
Username: Drewdix
Post Number: 994
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 7:41 pm: | |
Trefethen (CA). |
Soulful Mr T
Citizen
Username: Howardt
Post Number: 990
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 7:49 pm: | |
My favorite Chardonnay is....a free Chardonnay! |
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