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Spare_o
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Posted on Wednesday, November 2, 2005 - 9:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mjc--There are more of us So Cal - Berkeley transplants in Maplewood than I would have guessed (my SO is a transplant as well but went to USC). I was at Cal 1984 - 88. Lived at I-House and then on the northside, Oxford and Virginia. Would love to move back, maybe in the hills. We should get together at the pub for a drink and some nostalgia.
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Robert Little
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Posted on Wednesday, November 2, 2005 - 1:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm one of the people driving around with Cal stuff on the back of the cars. Wife '93; I lived there(-ish) '90-91.

New thread? We've migrated from Mexican food through In-n-Out to Berkeley.

Cal plays USC 11/12.
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Spare_o
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Posted on Wednesday, November 2, 2005 - 7:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Go Bears!

Enough thread drift...back to Mexican food.
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dave23
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Posted on Thursday, November 3, 2005 - 10:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Go Trojans. I miss Amoeba Records.
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Da Lat
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Posted on Thursday, November 3, 2005 - 11:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Go Bruins! What about Rasputin Records on Telegraph?

But speaking of Mexican food, I liked El Sombrero on University...


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dave23
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Posted on Thursday, November 3, 2005 - 12:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pancho Villa on 16th Street in SF was my fav.
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Jim Murphy
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Posted on Thursday, November 3, 2005 - 1:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pancho Villa was good, but the place on 17th and Valencia was better. A block down from the 500 Club. What was it called? maybe El Toro?
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Ignatius Flambeau
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Posted on Thursday, November 3, 2005 - 2:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm going to vote the responses to this sensible question as being one of the most absurd discussions I've seen on these forums. Why?

It's real simple. You can put three Americans at the same table, one from Atlanta, one from New York City and one from Chicago, serve them the same hot dog (which may or may not be "American" food, depending on whom you ask), and they won't agree with whether it's a good hot dog or not. And they're Americans and it's "American" food. There are regional differences in America as to how we preceive a dish as good or bad.

So let's examine Mexico for a moment. How many of you have lived there and traveled the country, extensively? How will you know what's from one region or another without having been there.

Or let's put the shoe on the other foot. Suppose you go visit Uncle Stan in Poland, and your second cousin, whom has never been here, thinks she'll make you feel "at home" by cooking up the American dishes know as chitterlings and mountain oysters. Now that there's American cuisine!

That being said, the folks from Toro Loco are going to present to their customers exactly what their customers perceive as "Mexican food."

Now somebody please explain to me what would be indigenous to Mexican culture with sour cream and cheddar cheese? Did the Mayans have Suncrest Farms stopping by their ziggurats on Thursdays at 6 a.m?
The Mayans were pretty damned smart and ingenious, but I doubt they had refrigeration.

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jeep
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ignatius: good points. Peter did start the thread asking about california style mexican food. of course I thought that was what they served at tinga's because it sure is not like any food I have tasted in Mexico.
worst mexican food I have had in this area is el bandido's on main street. best is just a few blocks away from there at los tapitos (however it is spelled)
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dave23
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Posted on Thursday, November 3, 2005 - 4:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jim, you're giving me flashbacks here. The 500 Club. Jack's.

I preferred Pancho Villa's food, but didn't like the place you mention for one big reason: The roving mariachi bands drove me crazy.
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Baltus
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I’m from Mexico originally, lived there 28 years. there are many types of Mexican food, and the area the cook is from will dictate what kind of food they have… the food from the southern part of mexico (panbazos papadzules and cochinita pibil) is really different from food of the coast (huachinango al mojo de ajo, ceviches, molotes) and I can keep on going for a while, Igrew up in Mexico City, so I’m more used to the food from that area.

What I find in th eats coast is that almost all restaurants serve the most basic food, chilaquiles, enchiladas, burritos (which is a dish only found on northern Mexico, nevo leon, Tamaulipas). I find Toro Loco good, the Mexican rice lacks taste but is overall a decent place, Tinga is tex mex, baja fresh, that place amazingly serve tacos theway they should be served, corn torilla and no hard shell. There is a restaurant called Charritos, well actually two, one is in Hoboken really small place but for my tastes authentic, they have another one in union city (I believe bergenline av. ) they have more authentic stuff like chiles rellenos, tostadas, arrachera and tampiquena.

Well those are my 2 cents.



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Spare_o
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Posted on Thursday, November 3, 2005 - 8:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sitting here with steak enchiladas from Mision Burrito as I type. I was in Hoboken tonight and with all this talk about Mexican food, I couldn't help myself. I am weak but these enchiladas sure are good! It's not on the menu but they've always made it for me. YUM!!
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Peter
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Posted on Thursday, November 3, 2005 - 9:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh, Jeep. How I wish you were posting at 11, not 2. I went to try Tapatios, but it was closed and the guys setting up inside waved me away at 11:45. We went to El Bandido. I should have suspected something when I noticed on the menu, "Only Soya Oil Used." It didn't say, "And lots of it." In fact, the chile relleno was wearing a bikini, the taco had on SPF 45, and the enchilda had a lawn chair and Ray Bans, and they were all doing the back stroke in the pool of oil on the plate.

On the other hand, they brought very nice quesadillas beforehand, there was actual cilantro in the salsa, and a complimentary dessert with, oddly, a banana (no not a plantain) fried inside a tortilla with maple syrup, ice cream and whipped cream.

More tomorrow.
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Shawna
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Posted on Thursday, November 3, 2005 - 9:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok.. just moved here and this thread is making me homesick. Met my love in Blakes on Telegraph and he lived on Shattuck. I was living over the hills. There is a gerat mexican place across the street from Amoeba..
Fresh Chile Relleno and Tostadas. yum.
And what's the name of the strawberry drink? Can I get that around here?
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Jim Murphy
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Posted on Friday, November 4, 2005 - 11:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave23, I hear ya on the mariachi's. Flower ladies too. We lived next door to the 500 Club on 17th. I miss the Mission...
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dave23
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Posted on Friday, November 4, 2005 - 12:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jim, I was on Guerrero between 16th and 17th.

Have you been to SF lately? That part of the Mission isn't the Mission anymore. I'm not one to decry gentrification--I was certainly part of it--but it lacks a certain something. (But that brick "park" across from Walgreen's is certainly the same.)

Last time I was there I actually stayed in Union Square with all the other tourists. Had a few unpleasant experiences with very aggressive homeless guys. But it's still a great city.
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mogli
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Posted on Sunday, November 6, 2005 - 9:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Seattle transplant, my wife is NJ with western streak. We agree on Tinga (bland and sterile) and Mexicali Rose (old and rusted), tolerate Desert Moon (liquor license), partake overpriced Baja Fresh only if the kids are about to stampede, but disagree on Toro Loco. She is not interested but I find the basics to be just fine and also that there are are gems on that menu and the place can be rather pleasant. There is also Don Jose on Rt. 10 in East Hanover, another source for the basics and good to know if you get a hankering while visiting the Costco, Target, Home Depot, etc. that are in the same area.

The east coast is devoid of tolerable burrito shacks (Taco Del Mar's eastern frontier is Montana!!!) so we have been forced to decrypt the secrets of the fish taco and the corn tortilla. Convienience is still king, of course, but thanks to geography satisfaction of some food cravings has required a DIY approach.
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sac
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We have recently discovered Amy's enchiladas ... to go along with the tamales from Trader Joe's that we love. These two items are excellent and we supplement with frozen Taquitos (whatever the grocery store has) plus homemade guacamole and warmed tortillas (also from the grocery store - the ones in the dairy case aren't bad.) Sometimes I'll also heat up some Old El Paso refried beans and/or fix a box of Goya Mexican rice to go along. All or some of the above can make a pretty good Mexican dinner at home without too much fuss.
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Wendyn
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Posted on Monday, November 7, 2005 - 8:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is a new taquaria in Summit that wasn't bad. I'd put it on par/slightly above Tinga. Got take out so I'm not sure what it is like inside.

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Charles Yuen
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I think Wendyn has referred to Tito's Burritos on Springfield across from the movie theatre in Summit. We go there for take out. Limited seating and menu (concentrating primarily on burritos), but pleasant on the inside, clean. Clientele is limited by the unavailability of parking spaces, fortunately (!) otherwise it'd probably be mobbed. Many styles of burritos, excellent tacos, and great taco salads. There is a salsa bar where you pick your type of very fresh salsa. Nice concept, fortunately it has always been clean. Inexpensive. No delivery. -- Charles
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The Soulful Mr T
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Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 9:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Went to Toro Loco last night (my son picked the restaurant) and I was underwhelmed, to say the least. I much prefer El Bandito.

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