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js
Citizen
Username: Js33
Post Number: 95
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Monday, November 7, 2005 - 8:53 pm: |     |
i've had samurai sushi & i enjoy it. i'm on the hunt for out-of-this-world / top-of-the-line-sushi (think tomoe in nyc.) is there anything like that in the area? |
Innisowen
Citizen
Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1053
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Monday, November 7, 2005 - 9:42 pm: | |
No.
You need to go to FUNE, 137 Simcoe Street, Toronto, for the best sushi/sashimi on this side of the continent. |
Virtual It Girl
Citizen
Username: Shh
Post Number: 3409
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 7, 2005 - 10:16 pm: | |
In this area, I think Ariyoshi is better than Samurai, but a few steps above that is the newly opened Tomo's Cuisine in Little Falls.
See my related thread in this topic. (Last post was this morning).
My husband and I have also been to the Tomoe in NYC and loved the sushi...found the soup not so good however. (And we needed soup, we waited outside on a cold winter evening for a few hours to get in!) |
mogli
Citizen
Username: Mogli
Post Number: 30
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Monday, November 7, 2005 - 10:35 pm: | |
Sushi at Ariyoshi is very, very good. Rosie from eGullet seems to like a lot, too. Wild Ginger in Englewood is also rated highly there. |
js
Citizen
Username: Js33
Post Number: 96
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - 8:06 am: | |
Where is Ariyoshi? I will have to try it.
As far as Tomoe...& as far as their sushi goes, there's not a better place in the city in my opinion. I've been everywhere: Bond St., every Yama, Nobu...etc. I'm strictly talking sushi. It just can't be beat. I lived a block away & waited on that long, terrible line all the time, b/c their sushi was more than worth the wait. |
I'm Only Sleeping
Citizen
Username: Rbrunner
Post Number: 107
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - 10:31 am: | |
Warning JS: While Ariyoshi is better than Samarai, it is definitely not up to the standards you are looking for. The fish is pretty good, but the rice is not good at all. I've been there several times and the rice always underseasoned, dried out, and smushed together in an unappealing clump (no individual grains).
I also had some of the worst service I've ever encountered in my life there last weekend, but I'll cut them some slack because it was supposedly the waiter's first day and the manager (owner?) handled the situation very well when we complained. |
Shanabana
Citizen
Username: Shanabana
Post Number: 26
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - 1:23 pm: | |
Ariyoshi is decent, and better than Samurai, which I found to be very run-of the mill. However, my sushi take out had 2 mistakes in the order, which dissapointed me.
Ariyoshi's where the Taste of Asia place used to be on South Orange ave, right off the parkinglot of the train station. Though I haven't been here long, it seems like the Maplewood Ave restaurants get LOTS of business, but very few people come over to South Orange Ave. (Except to go to resevoir, which I just don't understand...)
I didn't go to the old Tast of Asia, but it looked beautiful and had a Zagat rating. I was sorry to see it empty most the time. Hopefully more people will go to Ariyoshi. |
Shanabana
Citizen
Username: Shanabana
Post Number: 27
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - 1:25 pm: | |
p.s. I'm Only Sleeping, you're right about the rice. And the eel was too fatty. |
lefty
Citizen
Username: Lefty
Post Number: 62
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - 1:33 pm: | |
koi in nyc...but be prepared to spend $$$$ and lose your hearing (really bad acoustics). |
Virtual It Girl
Citizen
Username: Shh
Post Number: 3411
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - 3:58 pm: | |
JS, if you are in the Little Falls/Cedar Grove area (near the Willowbrook Mall) go to Tomo's Cuisine...117 Rt. 23 (Pompton Ave). |
ral
Citizen
Username: Ral
Post Number: 114
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - 4:11 pm: | |
I, too, crave sushi on the level of Tomoe in Soho. I walked in there a few months ago and was tempted to ask him to move out here! I have had good food at Monster Sushi in Summit -- just 15 minutes from Maplewood and better, I think, than Samurai.
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I'm Only Sleeping
Citizen
Username: Rbrunner
Post Number: 111
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - 4:23 pm: | |
Yeah, Monster is way better than Samarai. But again their sushi rice doesn't cut it. For some reason it's REALLY sweet, which throws the whole balance off. All you can taste is sugar. |
Da Lat
Citizen
Username: Sidrn
Post Number: 126
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - 4:34 pm: | |
The reason there is so many crappy sushi joints around here is a lack of adequate training and quality control. In order to be a sushi chef in Japan, a person has to go through a rigorous apprenticeship.
What I have noticed, especially in Jersey, is that many of the places are owned by ethnic Chinese or Koreans, whose chefs have inadequate or no training at all in the art. That's why we have such an array of opinions on this thread regarding quality.
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I'm Only Sleeping
Citizen
Username: Rbrunner
Post Number: 112
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - 4:38 pm: | |
Many decent-good sushi places in NYC are also owned by Koreans, so I don't think that's the problem. Honestly, I think most people out here just can't tell the difference between good sushi and bad, so there's not much incentive to do it right. It's really depressing. |
Virtual It Girl
Citizen
Username: Shh
Post Number: 3414
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - 4:59 pm: | |
I've been trying to eat sashimi these days instead of sushi...sick of filling up on all the white rice. Sashimi at Samurai was kind of eh, like I hope I don't get sick tonight. Same with Sakana. OTOH, the "junk" rolls at these places are good. At Ariyoshi, the sashimi definitely tasted fresher than Samurai and Sakana.
If the fish tastes too fishy or the texture is too chewy... |
Camnol
Citizen
Username: Camnol
Post Number: 155
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 - 7:12 pm: | |
Friends who live in North Jersey are raving about a sushi place called Flirt. http://www.flirtsushi.com/ My friends say the sushi is very fresh. Anyone been there? (it has an "over 18" theme, apparently) |
Earlster
Supporter
Username: Earlster
Post Number: 1380
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 1:17 pm: | |
Ku in CosCob (Greenwich, Ct) is really good, too.
Quite a hike and $$$, but great Sushi. I used to go there once in a while, when working in Stamford. |
clueless
Citizen
Username: Clueless
Post Number: 74
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 4:56 pm: | |
Tomoe is one of my favorite sushi places in the country and is better than the other NYC places that were mentioned such as Yama, Blue Ribbon, Sushisamba, Nobu, Bond St. However, I find that all sushi restaurants I have tried in NYC are all better than this area. One tip about Tomoe. Go to lunch and get there 15 minutes before they open. That's the shortest line you'll wait in for that place.
Ariyoshi, Samurai, Haru, Monster, Sakana. I've tried them all and they are pretty much the same. OK there are slight differences but they are all average at best. Because of that I still go to Haru because it is the cheapest.
For good Sushi I actually liked KiKu in Paramus and many of the restaurants in the Englewood/Edgewater/Ft. Lee area. However, for the effort it takes to get to those places, I just go to the city. |
Lili7g9h
Citizen
Username: Lili7g9h
Post Number: 4
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 7:30 am: | |
Ariyoshi is a great addition to the neighborhood and its sushi in my experience has been consistently good to excellent (okay, folks, get real, this isn't nyc). I get the chirashi, which is what I get at any sushi restaurant on first try - it's my litmus test. For those who don't know, chirashi is like a sashimi platter on a bed of rice. Any good, ethical sushi restaurant populates chirashi with what's fresh as well as the usual tuna-salmon-tamago standbys. Ayriyoshi does a good job with this; I've had it on a takeout basis about a half-dozen times. It comes with a good miso soup and salad (I don't care for their dressing), and at $18 is not overpriced. ON THE SUSHI RICE ISSUE I think that Ariyoshi actually does a great job. Their rice is properly seasoned and is the proper level of stickiness. I live in SO, walking distance to Ariyoshi, and I'm not saying I would make a special trip to go to there. But that's probably true of most places. My attitude is welcome to the neighborhood and I hope Ariyoshi can make a go of it.
Now if we could get some good Thai... (don't tell me about Montclair; it's driving 20 minutes for pedestrian). Does anyone know anything about the vietnamese place opening on route 10? |
dan
Citizen
Username: Dricher
Post Number: 7
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 11:18 pm: | |
Why does everyone rave about tomoe? Yes the fish is AMAZINGLY fresh. And they really know how to perfectly cut the fish (Which is a problem at NJ's many Korean/Chinese owned Japanese restaurants). But at Tomoe the fish portions are TOO big. Japanese food/sushi is about balance and this is lost when a the piece of sushi is nine times the size of the rice. But I guess thats their gig...To give people something to say wow about (just like monster sushi in summit). The freshness is definitely unlike anything you can find in NY/NJ but big portions arent always a good thing. (unrelated...but that mentality is why obesity is such a problem in America.) |
Virtual It Girl
Citizen
Username: Shh
Post Number: 3453
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 7:14 am: | |
You're talking about Tomoe in NYC? I didn't recall the fish pieces being too big at all. |
Eats Shoots & Leaves
Citizen
Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 2609
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 8:58 am: | |
Recently had spicy yellowfin on crispy rice at Koi (Bryant Park Hotel) and it was OUT OF THIS WORLD! Sushi and sashimi were also very good, as was the wasabi, but the rolls were only pedestrian and the tempura (a tablemate ordered) was greasy. |
js
Citizen
Username: Js33
Post Number: 111
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 9:10 am: | |
Virtual It Girl...good things come in small packages. |
xavier67
Citizen
Username: Xavier67
Post Number: 592
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 9:28 am: | |
There is no crime graver than oversized sushi and sashimi.
Regarding Korean-run sushi joints, please don't let your impulse to essentialize "Japaneseness" -- and its relationship to sushi quaity--run amok here. Sushi is very popular among Koreans and Korean-Americans (due to legacy of Japanese colonialism in 1/2st half of 20th century); add to that the substantial Korean population in Japan. These are reasons why many of top-notch sushi places in our area are run by Koreans. |
xavier67
Citizen
Username: Xavier67
Post Number: 593
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 9:34 am: | |
There is no crime graver than oversized sushi and sashimi.
Regarding Korean-run sushi joints, please don't let your impulse to essentialize "Japaneseness" -- and its relationship to sushi quaity--run amok here. Sushi is very popular among Koreans and Korean-Americans (due to legacy of Japanese colonialism in 1/2st half of 20th century); add to that the substantial Korean population in Japan. These are reasons why many of top-notch sushi places in our area are run by Koreans. |
MEC
Citizen
Username: Mec
Post Number: 156
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 7:36 am: | |
Jewel Bako and Matsuri in NYC. You can look them up on menupages.com
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Taurus5208
Citizen
Username: Taurus5208
Post Number: 141
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 2:43 pm: | |
I just have to throw in Haru right on Academy St. in SO...it's really good. I like Samurai Sushi as well and I think that Haru is just as good, if not better...plus they do take-out. |
ASR
Citizen
Username: Asr
Post Number: 6
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, December 3, 2005 - 10:56 am: | |
kuruma zushi in NYC is the best in the area. the best in the states is Sasabune in LA. |
Two Senses
Citizen
Username: Twosense
Post Number: 398
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 5:30 pm: | |
Just enjoyed a great dinner at Ariyoshi. Shared sushi & sashimi combination for two, and it was almost enough for three -- a large boat filled with an impressive variety of delicious sushi & sashimi. For a Saturday evening, there unfortunately weren't many patrons -- albeit the weekend before Christmas. I also noticed two tatami rooms, one for six and one for 10; although, maybe they'll accept smaller groups. |
Sherri De Rose
Citizen
Username: Honeydo
Post Number: 15
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 9:10 pm: | |
How come nobody ever mentioned SONO in Millburn? They have been there longer than any of these places and have stood the test of time. Give them a try. |
Joyryde
Citizen
Username: Joyryde
Post Number: 4
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 2:07 pm: | |
The absolute best sushi in NYC is Neo, on the UWS. Forget all the others, Neo will blow you away. And if you're into fusion, try Aki in the Village. The chef/owner once worked at a resort in Jamaica, and although it seems an odd fusion at first, it works sooooooo well. |
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