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SOSully
Citizen Username: Sullymw
Post Number: 1009 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Friday, December 2, 2005 - 9:21 am: |
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do women have to wear a collared shirt too? if not, then they need to adjust this |
   
davidbuckley
Citizen Username: Davidbuckley
Post Number: 446 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Friday, December 2, 2005 - 10:51 am: |
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Collared shirt=deranged requirement. If you show and are nicely attired w/out collared shirt and are turned away (I'd be amazed), you should freak. I suspect they'll be flexible and simply want to be able to to choose their clientele based on general appropriateness--let's hope anyway... Dine well, all. David |
   
dgm
Citizen Username: Dgm
Post Number: 277 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Friday, December 2, 2005 - 11:08 am: |
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They wouldn't let Calabrese in as he doesn't own a collared shirt. |
   
ajc
Citizen Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4451 Registered: 9-2001

| Posted on Friday, December 2, 2005 - 11:14 am: |
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... I can't say for sure Lucy, but I'd be willing to bet the farm that you and your husband would be more than welcome to stop in after work one night for a drink or something to eat. One look inside this establishment and anyone can see they spent a lot of money to bring a first class restaurant to our community. I can only guess that the idea of collared shirts is to try to give them some control over the ambiance and feel they are trying to achieve in their fine dinning area. My experience was excellent, plus I really don’t remember anyone being over or under dressed.
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Duder
Citizen Username: El_duderino
Post Number: 867 Registered: 2-2004

| Posted on Friday, December 2, 2005 - 11:20 am: |
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Posted collared shirt requirement = complete and total boycott. It's the principle. Very pretentious and tacky to post it in the window. |
   
ajc
Citizen Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4453 Registered: 9-2001

| Posted on Friday, December 2, 2005 - 12:14 pm: |
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Posted collared shirt requirement = complete and total boycott. It's the principle. Very pretentious and tacky to post it in the window. I doubt many locals walking up to the entrance will be as highbrow and full of themselves as you imply... Principles? Dudder, you must have fit right in at the "Stuffed" Shirt... |
   
Duder
Citizen Username: El_duderino
Post Number: 868 Registered: 2-2004

| Posted on Friday, December 2, 2005 - 12:22 pm: |
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I'm quite low-brow, which is why I'm opposed to their obnoxious policy. My money's not good unless I adhere to some overambitious dress code? In South Orange?? Um, no. Also, I don't mind pretentious restaurants, and I don't mind tacky restaurants. The two together is a bad (bad meaning bad not bad meaning good) combo. |
   
cjc
Citizen Username: Cjc
Post Number: 4840 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 2, 2005 - 1:16 pm: |
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Where are we that a shirt with a collar of an establishment trying to be a little upscale is offensive? Hats off to the Wine Cellar! |
   
ajc
Citizen Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4455 Registered: 9-2001

| Posted on Friday, December 2, 2005 - 1:20 pm: |
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"I'm opposed to their obnoxious policy..." Obnoxious and a complete and total boycott of their establishment are pretty strong words to be used in a friendly thread about a great new venue in our community. IMHO, you have a real problem, because this is no longer about, “It's the principle.” I'm afraid you have another, much more sinister agenda pal. Given your attitude, your boycott will be your loss, not theirs...
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stefano
Citizen Username: Stefano
Post Number: 455 Registered: 2-2002

| Posted on Friday, December 2, 2005 - 1:33 pm: |
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The Dude is not happy, yet the Dude abides. |
   
Duder
Citizen Username: El_duderino
Post Number: 871 Registered: 2-2004

| Posted on Friday, December 2, 2005 - 1:48 pm: |
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Yeah, I'm secretly trying to close down all restaurants with a mandatory dress code. It's my life's mission.  |
   
ajc
Citizen Username: Ajc
Post Number: 4457 Registered: 9-2001

| Posted on Friday, December 2, 2005 - 2:04 pm: |
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...well good Duder, now that we understand you better, maybe we can get back to the reality? Lucy, my experience was excellent, plus I really don’t remember anyone being over or under dressed.  |
   
michael brant
Citizen Username: Mbrant
Post Number: 53 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Friday, December 2, 2005 - 2:21 pm: |
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Simple. I had a drink there and I was wearing a blazer jeans and sweater. Had a wonderful time. Simple-I am sure they want the ability to refuse entry to someone who is not dressed properly. Try to go to the Highlawn in a t shirt or sneakers, not a chance. The owners of the cellar have created a restaurant/bar/lounge that is upscale. I guess if you want to wear sneakers, jeans and a t shirt just do not go there. |
   
Nick DiPasquale
Citizen Username: Nickdinan3
Post Number: 25 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Friday, December 2, 2005 - 3:52 pm: |
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I have been there a few times with a sweater. They will definitely welcome your business without a collared shirt. The food is great, the staff wonderful (you should all pay Sandra a visit in the bar-she makes an incredible martini)! |
   
SOSully
Citizen Username: Sullymw
Post Number: 1010 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Friday, December 2, 2005 - 3:56 pm: |
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ahhh, this makes sense. The sign is there in case they want to refuse someone, but if you are appropriately dressed with or without a collar then you will be admitted. |
   
Lucy Smith
Citizen Username: Lucy123
Post Number: 61 Registered: 6-2005
| Posted on Friday, December 2, 2005 - 9:03 pm: |
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I just wanted to make it clear...i don't have a problem with a place having a dress code...i actually think it's a good idea to have an idea what a place's ambience is before setting foot in the restaurant....i was just wondering if they were strictly enforcing the "collared" shirt requirement posted...we would really like to try the place but don't want to have to change our clothes after work to be able to go in. AJC and Nick-thank you for the information you provided-i think we will try it out this weekend in our best sweaters ;) and i'm sure from what i read here we will enjoy it!!!! |
   
Mayor McCheese
Supporter Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 710 Registered: 7-2004

| Posted on Saturday, December 3, 2005 - 1:50 am: |
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Cryan's a few years ago began enforcing a collared shirt policy. I tried to enter one one dressed nicely, (khaki pants and a nice long sleeve shirt) and was denied entrance. And as this happened, a man wearing a metallic t-shirt and a jean vest (that did have a small collar) walked out. I asked the bouncer at the door how come he was able to get in and I couldn't and his response was that the other man had a collar on his vest. So, we had some words... I went on a complete boycott for over a year. Unfortunately, all good things come to an end, and I have been back probably 3 times in the last 4 years. |
   
Josh Holtz
Citizen Username: Jholtz
Post Number: 156 Registered: 4-2004
| Posted on Saturday, December 3, 2005 - 9:25 am: |
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I am all in favor of a dress code in a restaurant deserving of one - as long as the dress code is enforced in the same manner on all of the patrons.
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The Oracle of MOL
Supporter Username: Oracle_of_mol
Post Number: 158 Registered: 2-2005

| Posted on Saturday, December 3, 2005 - 10:20 am: |
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My Otherworldly threads -- both the everyday muslin and my snazzy new ultrasuede robes -- are hooded, not collared, and my sandals (so in vogue here in Boca, and also so very practical in SOMA during your winter months) are made from recycled automobile snow tires. Yet I am freely admitted to all nature of gatherings, venues, and joints without a murmer as to the appropriateness of my attire. I simply Look Good. Now, in my recent Village Cellar vision, the majority of local power-lunchers were uniform in their traditional business garb, but S.O.V.P. Bill Calabrese wore a dark-colored long-sleeved "polo" shirt, featuring what I believe is called a "crew neck" (no collar). Perhaps he'd not read the sign. Or perhaps Lunchtime is a more casual deal in general in South Orange. Or perhaps Bill just Looked Good... Anyway, to those offended by a friendly reminder prominently posted by serious restauranteurs looking to define the ambiance and tenor of their (very atttractive) fledgling eatery: Grow up. If you look snappy (with or without a collared shirt), I predict that you'll be welcome. Just don't blow your image by salting your soup before tasting it. Go in peace. --The Oracle of MOL |
   
monster
Supporter Username: Monster
Post Number: 1633 Registered: 7-2002

| Posted on Saturday, December 3, 2005 - 6:47 pm: |
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I walked in with a few friends to check it out a couple of weeks ago, and we had to leave because we wouldn't let them put the required stick up our arses.... |
   
Mayor McCheese
Supporter Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 712 Registered: 7-2004

| Posted on Saturday, December 3, 2005 - 7:46 pm: |
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HAHAHAHAHA...... monster... that’s hilarious. And S.O.D.A., i'm not in any way offended, but being told what to wear is not a grown up thing to do. It is what you tell children to do.
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The Oracle of MOL
Supporter Username: Oracle_of_mol
Post Number: 159 Registered: 2-2005

| Posted on Saturday, December 3, 2005 - 9:47 pm: |
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We're mostly adults down here in Boca, and still this sign is oddly ubiquitous...
I'm sure that the gents running the Village Cellar won't miss the patronage of anyone needing repeated reminders to dress appropriately. Those of you who feel that your intelligence, sartorial sense, or adulthood is being insulted protest too much, methinks... Go in peace. --The Oracle of MOL Note: This is being typed while I'm bending an elbow (barefoot) among a gaggle of collarless ladies at my favorite Tiki Bar (replete with Wi-Fi) here in Boca. Nik-nik-nik... |
   
Mayor McCheese
Supporter Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 713 Registered: 7-2004

| Posted on Sunday, December 4, 2005 - 2:44 am: |
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Where do you find signs like that? Village Cellar and local 7-11's. I seriously hope this place succeeds, lots of others in that location have not. I will try to get there soon, but seriously, lose the sign. |
   
MM
Citizen Username: Melandmike
Post Number: 67 Registered: 1-2004
| Posted on Sunday, December 4, 2005 - 10:48 am: |
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We went Sat night. We were dressed nicely but 2 of the men weren't wearing collared shirts and were allowed in. The place looks great. They have a live piano player. Nice touch but a bit loud. I think the acoustics are a problem because we had a hard time hearing each other and we were only a party of five. Gotta say that the meal was just fair to good. My husband's strip steak was overcooked (he asked for it med rare) and the waiter then told him that it "was the cut of meat and couldn't be cooked any rarer". The owner (Louis, I think) did come over and apologize and they made my husband a med rare filet- and gave him a glass of wine on the house. The filet was fine, nothing special. My pasta special was good, but I still prefer Arugula for pasta. 2 friends got the scallops dish- 3 scallops each. And the accompanying veggies were room temp and not hot. So, all in all, nice decor, ok service (but they're a new restaurant so that's fine)but I'm not racing back. It's a shame because we certainly need some more good restuarant choices in M/SO. |
   
mickey
Citizen Username: Mickey
Post Number: 347 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Sunday, December 4, 2005 - 2:56 pm: |
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3 scallops each? Yikes. I remember once going to an expensive restaurant and getting 2 scallops (main course!!) I joked to my spouse: well, technically it is scallopS. Wonder if the appetizer portion was scallop. Also I remember Arugula skimps on the shrimp in their scampi, but it is still delicious. Went to the Cellar for lunch and the seared salmon sandwich was really good. |
   
zen
Citizen Username: Zen
Post Number: 35 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 5, 2005 - 1:08 am: |
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Went for dinner on Saturday. Food was excellent, service needs more work. It appeared that they were having a problem cooking steaks - any tables with steak dishes seemed to have a long wait for their entree. Wine list by the bottle was great. Wine list by the glass was disapointing for a restaurant calling itslef a "wine bar". Will definitely go back, looks like there were many interesting things on the menu. |
   
mickey
Citizen Username: Mickey
Post Number: 348 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Monday, December 5, 2005 - 8:29 am: |
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I agree about the wines by the glass. They need to ramp it up a little. Appleby's has more wines by the glass than this "wine bar!" |
   
Mike Matterly
Citizen Username: Ittakesavillage
Post Number: 56 Registered: 4-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, December 7, 2005 - 10:40 am: |
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Ate there last night and the food and service were GREAT. Not good, but GREAT. I was impressed what they did with the changes to the interior by moving the bar out side the main dining area. We will recommend and go back. MM |
   
Veritas Ultimo
Citizen Username: Veritas_ultimo
Post Number: 11 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Thursday, December 8, 2005 - 9:11 pm: |
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I'm worried that P.B.is throwing his money down the drain. I took a small party there and all five meals were only fair. People are not going to pay those prices for the food we were served.(At least not a second time.) The wine list was OK but the wrong bottle was brought out twice. I don't know if it was a language problem or if the waiter was trying to push another wine? Why only French and California Wine with a menu with Italian themes? Is there another list with Italian Wines? I'm sorry to say that I could not send anyone to this restaurant. If the best they can do is a dress code to upscale the crowd, then it will be as gone as Lot 15.
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cmontyburns
Citizen Username: Cmontyburns
Post Number: 1570 Registered: 12-2003

| Posted on Thursday, December 8, 2005 - 9:34 pm: |
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They were giving out 10% off coupons at the train station today. |
   
michael brant
Citizen Username: Mbrant
Post Number: 59 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Friday, December 9, 2005 - 11:13 am: |
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Oh my! It sounds like Veritas is jealous! I am making the following statement for the simple reason that I am really shocked that someone would write such a negative post about a new business in our town. At the risk of sounding like a snob which I am not I am saying the following. I have traveled the world many times. I have had the privilege of dining in some of the finest restaurants this world has to offer. Unfortunately and fortunately I dine in New York City on business two nights a weak on an off week. So as a non expert in the field of culinary rating I am saying based on my experiences I found the Village Cellar to be more than I had expected for a new restaurant. I along with my 3 guests sampled several appetizers, salads and main courses and in my opinion I found all of them to be excellent. We had several bottles of wine and although the list was not extensive we were more than able to find some nice choices. The owner did approach and explain he will be adding many more wines to the list. We need more businesses like this in our town. We need more residents to step up to the plate and take a chance on our town. This is a beautiful addition to OUR TOWN and I will be returning. |
   
Veritas Ultimo
Citizen Username: Veritas_ultimo
Post Number: 13 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Friday, December 9, 2005 - 3:56 pm: |
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Veritas Ultimo is never jealous, only frustrated that there are so few (2?) upscale places with a liquor license to take guests when showing off beloved South Orange. Can the Cellar really be characterized as a new restaurant? It is much more a re-named restaurant with two new partners. I wish all of them luck and I did spend time and (a good amount of) money there. More residents of South Orange should go and try the Cellar if only to tell Veritas Ultimo that the restaurant is great. |
   
cmontyburns
Citizen Username: Cmontyburns
Post Number: 1579 Registered: 12-2003

| Posted on Friday, December 9, 2005 - 4:16 pm: |
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Restaurants are not charities. They don't discount your bill during their growing pains. There's nothing at all wrong with sharing your honest opinion about a business in town. There are far more glowing posts on MOL about local business than there are critical ones, yet people jump on the latter and accuse authors of not "supporting" local businesses. If they pay me to eat there, I promise to only say good things. But as long as I'm the one footing the bill.... |
   
Jenny
Citizen Username: Jenjen
Post Number: 32 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 6:46 pm: |
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We went there because of the 10% coupon and wanting to check it out. While we were disappointed with the somewhat traditional/boring menu offerings (hoping for some more choices, especially more fish and/or vegetarian options, as well as more interesting sides), we both enjoyed what we ate. I would mention that the portions are on the smaller side. This worked well for me as I ate my whole plate up (the tuna was delish) and felt completely satisfied, but I tend to be the person who never finishes her entree. Service was excellent, though biz was slow that night so who knows if that's the norm. I liked the ambience and my husband who had been in it when was other businesses says ambience was IMPROVED. It's PRICEY though and not sure I would choose it again over some more interesting options in Montclair. BUT would definitely recommend someone give it a try if they're looking for an upscale, romantic meal. |
   
MHD
Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 3124 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 10:26 pm: |
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Finally went to Village Cellar Saturday night for Dinner. General impressions: Places looks GREAT inside. Decent number of people dining, but certainly not packed. Although there are a HUGE number of tables. People seemed dressed much more casually than I would have expected for the prices. I even saw at least one person wearing a College sweatshirt (no collar!) Menu was fairly limited and basic - nothing too exotic but it covered the basic meat, chicken, fish and vegetarian options Bread on table was good - although there was an abundance of white bread slices, which I found to be a little unconventional Service was friendly and helpful. Food took quite some time to come, but the waiter did apologize & provide a drink on the house to compensate. Food was rather tasty, though portions were on the smaller side. Price was a little steep, but probably in line with Voro, Papillon, etc. Overall, the meal was enjoyable. I still wish with such a HUGE restaurant and a fairly basic menu, the prices were more reasonable and it could become a more regular restaurant to eat at. Unfortunately, Village Cellar will most likely be visited by us only a couple times a year and will compete for our dollars with Voro and Antonella's on special occasions. |
   
User58
Citizen Username: User58
Post Number: 385 Registered: 8-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 10:04 am: |
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No, I did not call them. But if you give me your fax number I would be happy to give it to them to remove from their list.
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Lisa E. Davis
Citizen Username: Ldavis0260
Post Number: 8 Registered: 7-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 5:03 pm: |
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I've been there twice for drinks and appetizer and found the food pretty good and ambience and service wonderful. We need nice restaurants in town, so let's not tear this one to shreds before it really gets started. |
   
Josh Holtz
Citizen Username: Jholtz
Post Number: 195 Registered: 4-2004
| Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 4:47 pm: |
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Had dinner at the Village Cellar on Friday night - and we truly enjoyed it. To start: Salad and Saffron Mussels Main Course: Cajun Filet Mignon and Veal Bolognese W/Gnocchi Dessert: Flourless Chocolate Cake The food was delicious and the service prompt. The wife said it was one of the better meals she has had in awhile. The Gnocchi in the Bolognese was fantastic. The beer came in frosted glasses and the house Cabernet was nice. The prices in line with any other high quality restaurant in the area. The restaurant looked great. The bar area seemed to be a nice place for a drink and a quick meal. The lounge/waiting area was nicely done. The main dining area was large and suitable to hold many diners. My only suggestion would be to maybe drape off the back area of the restaurant during slower hours to make the restaurant seem less cavernous. Overall is was very nice dining experience. We will be going back soon. I highly recommend it.
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Nick DiPasquale
Citizen Username: Nickdinan3
Post Number: 26 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Sunday, December 25, 2005 - 7:05 am: |
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We had Christmas eve dinner last night with another family. The food was delicious. The Monkfish is really good, and my wife loved the goat cheese ravioli. Everyone raved about the food. They made chicken fingers for most of the kids. My daughter requested a special pasta dish and they gladly made it for her. Giacomo picked out a great wine to complement our dinner. Overall another great experience. |
   
Tom Kerns
Supporter Username: Tom_kerns
Post Number: 319 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 8:54 am: |
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Went to Village Cellar for dinner last night and the food was wonderful. This was our second time there and had a similar experience both times. I had the lobster spring rolls and rack of lamb which was cooked to perfection. My wife had the artichoke soup (soup of the day) and veal chops, also amazing. It was nice to see the place full. Also we saw families with kids of varying ages and noticed that some were eating chicken fingers and fries (not on the menu). Good luck to Giacomo, Franco and their new partner(s?) |
   
sportsnut
Citizen Username: Sportsnut
Post Number: 2276 Registered: 10-2001

| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 12:07 pm: |
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They have a family night special on Tuesday nights where all kids under 13 eat for $6.99. The kids menu is pretty standard fare for kids (i.e. chicken fingers, burgers, mac & cheese etc.) We're going to give it a try tomorrow night. |
   
sportsnut
Citizen Username: Sportsnut
Post Number: 2282 Registered: 10-2001

| Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 11:54 am: |
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We ate there last night and our food was quite good. They had the children's menu as promised and my son dined on Mozzerella sticks. My wife had the Arugula and goat cheese salad and followed that up with the Monkfish. She said the fish was excellent. I had the skirt steak appetizer and the honey glazed pork chop. The steak was not as tender as it could have been but was still good. The chop was also delicious. The place was empty, empty, empty. When we arrived there was only one other table occupied. They left and two other groups were seated. I think its going to be tough to get people in during the week with that kind of menu. Our meal was just under $100 with one glass of wine which is too pricey for casual dining but just right for a nice night out. We will definitely go back again. Has anyone tried their Sunday brunch? |
   
Strings
Supporter Username: Blue_eyes
Post Number: 794 Registered: 4-2004

| Posted on Friday, February 3, 2006 - 10:20 pm: |
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We went tonight for dinner and everything from the app to the dessert was absolutely delicious. The seared cajun tuna appetizer (special) was incredibly, quite possible one of the most delicious things I've ever tasted. Service was fantastic, as well. Live piano and bass duo playing... it was quite nice. Unfortunately, we both live on a limited budget so I don't see a visit again in the near future just because it was a little pricey. Worth it? I'm not sure, it was an excellent meal, but a little more than either of us had anticipated spending. |
   
Alberto Rojas
Citizen Username: Rojas
Post Number: 8 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 12:03 pm: |
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We had a delicious dinner on Monday night. Great service. We did end up spending more that we would've liked but it was worth it. Definitely going back. |
   
Lucy Smith
Citizen Username: Lucy123
Post Number: 88 Registered: 6-2005
| Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 2:25 pm: |
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Thinking of going to the brunch at Village Cellar...has anyone tried it? does anyone know the details? Time? Cocktails included? Any thoughts on the brunch would be greatly appreciated!!!! Thanks! |
   
redY67
Citizen Username: Redy67
Post Number: 4895 Registered: 2-2003

| Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 8:29 am: |
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We went there for appetizers and wine. Delish and the wine was fantastic. We loved the atmosphere and the service was wonderful. |
   
Strings
Supporter Username: Blue_eyes
Post Number: 810 Registered: 4-2004

| Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 9:35 am: |
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Lucy - all that info is (or at least was) posted in the window of the restaurant. I believe, if I'm recalling correctly, that the hours are 11-3 and it includes one drink (mimosa, bloody mary, or OJ, I think it said). Of course, you should probably just call and ask them to confirm. |
   
Jersey Boy
Citizen Username: Jersey_boy
Post Number: 259 Registered: 1-2006

| Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 9:41 pm: |
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Jersey Boy and Little Jersey Boy and Jersey Mom went to the Village Cellar for "Kids night" tonight. This is such a great idea. We ate grown up food and Little J.B. had crayons and french fries. We were the only people there though. I'd hate for this to go away, but I can't go every week just to support it. Gormands with kids, please support kids night at Village Cellar. J.B. P.S.- We all had collared shirts. |
   
ril
Citizen Username: Ril
Post Number: 495 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 9:59 am: |
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We stopped in for a drink last evening--both bar & restaurant were nearly empty. Too bad--I like the place (tho food's a little pricy, and I wish they had a better beer selection). |
   
mtierney
Citizen Username: Mtierney
Post Number: 906 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, March 1, 2006 - 11:38 am: |
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Recently our dinner party of five adults and one toddler decided to try out the Cellar. It was early on a Saturday night and there were maybe three other tables active. The restaurant is far more atractive than when it was Lot 15, or the Stuft Shirt for that matter. Sorry to be a negative voice here, but we were disappointed. Very pricey for one thing;truly bad service; no bread on the table (waiting so long we were ravenous), we had to ask for it and got a little plate of rolls. No salsa, no nothing. There was no real kids menu. We asked for macaroni & cheese and we got a huge plate of zitti size pasta smothered in thick white cheese sauce. The adults thought it tasty, but the kid wanted yellow elbow pasta, please! |