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sylad
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Username: Sylad

Post Number: 31
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 2:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone know if the construction at the train station includes strengthening the support columns that hold up the platform/tracks that goes over South Orange Ave? Many of the supports are crumbling and falling apart.
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mrosner
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Username: Mrosner

Post Number: 759
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 2:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This phase does not include work on the supports. That is scheduled in phases two and three. Phase two is schedule to start in 2004 and phase three in the latter part of 2005.
Currently the work is to make the station handicapped accessible including elevators and ramps along with some other improvements.
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joso
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Username: Joso

Post Number: 131
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 3:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank god we will have the elevators to get up the platforms after they collapse onto South Orange Avenue.
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mrosner
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Username: Mrosner

Post Number: 762
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 3:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One would think they would have done this in the reverse order, but NJ Transit was dealing with federal mandates to be ADA compliant. The project was originally scheduled to begin in 1992 and was delayed due to "budget problems". When originally planned, the structual work (they claim there are no structual problems) was going to be addressed first.
The whole thing is a mixed blessing. The good news is that at long last they are fixing up the station. The bad news is that they have only assigned a few men to work on this project so it is going to take at least another 3 years.

And before anyone makes the comment/joke, place your bets on which gets done first - SOPAC or the station renovation.
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lseltzer
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Username: Lseltzer

Post Number: 1888
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 5:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They probably look a lot worse than they really are. I'm sure there's massive redundancy in the supports.
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Washashore
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Username: Washashore

Post Number: 98
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 7:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sylad: Please write a strong letter to NJT with your concerns for the structural integrity of the columns over SO Ave. Last time I read my Engineering 101 book, having chunks of falling concrete, and visible corrosive ribar, suggested integrity had been compromised.

Just because the BOT allowed NJT to get off the hook for over 10 years doesn't mean there was no real problem that should have been addressed long ago.

Your letter to NJT, and perhaps those from all with whom you ride on the train might help insure that NJT doesn't decide to postpone the columns another 10 years.

Mr. Rosner: Even with the huge lag in NJT timetable, my vote: NJT is completed way before SOPAC.
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sylad
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Username: Sylad

Post Number: 33
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 9:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good idea, Just sent the email, I will post their response.
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mrosner
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Username: Mrosner

Post Number: 763
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 9:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NJ Transit came to the meeting last night. When they start the second phase of the project in the spring of 2004, it includes doing structural repairs to supports and columns.

Washashore: How did the BOT let NJ Transit off the hook? They do not report to the BOT. We have had them come to meetings regularly since I have been on the board to give us updates. We have berated them in public and in the papers on more than one occassion.
A letter from a resident means the same to them as a letter or comment from a trustee. The more people who write to NJ Transit will help insure that they will pay attention. Whether you are a commuter or not, people should write to them to complain about the condition of both stations in S. Orange as well as all the trestles.

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