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Tom Reingold the prissy-pants
Citizen
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 1401
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 12, 2003 - 8:01 am: | 
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luanda, you need either more imagination or for me to serve you a cup of coffee at my house. If you haven't had Zabar's coffee, you don't know that it's bad.
When I was in college, I worked as a bike mechanic. We sold this novelty handlebar tape called Benotto which had a shiny glimmer, and it became the rage. We sold it for $3. Someone came in and asked how much we charge, and then he said he'd prefer to buy it at Conrad's shop, an expensive shop in Tudor City (NYC) because it must be better there, because it's more expensive.
Zabar's sells 10,000 pounds of coffee per week, retail. They must have figured out how to buy and roast in bulk such that they can offer it at a lower price. It's good coffee. So is Fairway's.
Tom Reingold
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luanda
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Username: Luanda
Post Number: 131
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Friday, December 12, 2003 - 8:25 am: |
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Tom, I didn't say it was bad, I just said it couldn't be very good. 10K pounds/week isn't really all that much - certainly not enough to get better deals than much larger roasters like Peets and Starbucks.
You know the saying "If it seems too good to be true, then it probably IS too good to be true." But, if you think Zabar's is "really high end coffee" that's gift-worthy, who am I to tell you otherwise? Chacun á son gout. Go wild. |
1-2many
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Username: Wbg69
Post Number: 727
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, December 12, 2003 - 9:44 am: |
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I appreciate other views on Trader Joe's coffee, but seriously, we tried a LOT of brands (incl. Illy) before settling on this one. we also like the organic espresso roast at Whole Foods, but the Trader Joe's espresso roast is every bit as good.
prior to getting the espresso machine, we used Trader Joe's, maybe, Island Blend or something, after DD switched their roasting or beans or something and their coffee became sucky.
part of this is a taste issue. People LOVE Starbucks, but I personally don't like their roasting, I think most of their coffees are too dark and taste burnt.
but, with these recommendations, I will try Peets. |
shauna mc
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Username: Ladymc
Post Number: 5
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 12, 2003 - 10:32 am: |
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Ever tried gevalia, I heard it's very good. I hate coffee so I don't know much besides what other folks say.
Life Is GREAT....get your pc tuned up.
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Yogi
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Username: Yogi
Post Number: 22
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 12, 2003 - 12:19 pm: |
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I just dislike flavored coffees. Isn't coffee already a flavor? |
Tom Reingold the prissy-pants
Citizen
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 1404
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 12, 2003 - 12:23 pm: |
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I'm with you, Yogi. I think flavored coffees are vile.
luanda, you have used deductive reasoning to surmise that Zabar's coffee is no good. I think an empirical method is more reliable. I'll give you a chance to try it yourself. I'm giving you a pound of beans as a Christmas gift. What sort of roast do you like?
(In other words, in response to your "is not, nyah nyah", I say, "is too, nyah nyah".)
Tom Reingold
There is nothing
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Yogi
Citizen
Username: Yogi
Post Number: 24
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 12, 2003 - 12:25 pm: |
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From my few days on MOL I think that a lot more people should be drinking decaf. |
Yossarian
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Username: Yossarian
Post Number: 137
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 12, 2003 - 12:42 pm: |
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I love good coffee, and could probably be considered a bit of a coffee snob. My favorite coffee is Kona. We buy the beans and grind them ourselves.
Anyway, when at home we ALWAYS drink Kona and order it direct from Hawaii. We get Kona Extra Fancy for $24 a pound. That's right, $24 a pound. I know that's expensive, but it's worth it. And when you figure out the per cup cost (rationalization?) it's far, far less than what you'd pay for a nice glass of wine or a Courage at the Pub.
We get our Kona here:
http://www.aikanekonacoffee.com/
and have always been very, very pleased.
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Me again
Citizen
Username: Deborahg
Post Number: 729
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, December 12, 2003 - 3:42 pm: |
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Yossarian--
What time is breakfast? I'll be there. Kona coffee is one of God's most perfect beverages.
Anyone who wants to impress me, get me great coffee (hint, hint). My favorite is Jamaican Blue Mountain, the real thing. Kona a close second.
I am a coffeeholic hands down--lived in Italy for several years, where coffee can be a religion-- and my considered opinion is that Starbucks gets the job done, but doesn't tickle my taste buds as much as Kona or Jamaica Blue Mt; Trader Joe's organic espresso beans made in a regular coffeemaker (i.e. not as espresso)are amazingly good; Illy brings back good memories; and... got to go, my coffeemaker just beeped. Pavlov's dog ain't in it.
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JGTierney
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Username: Jtg7448
Post Number: 106
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 12, 2003 - 3:53 pm: |
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Meagain,
There is a little (tiny) coffee place on
the Upper East side in the 90's, off of Madison.
It will bring back Italian memories for you...they serve expresso at the bar. You pay, you stand, you sip, you leave. The closest to the real experience that we have found thus far.
I wish I could remember the name... |
bpaandco
Citizen
Username: Bpaandco
Post Number: 65
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, December 13, 2003 - 8:27 pm: |
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I am a transplanted SO/M homegirl, living on Kauai. I get Kona coffee on sale cheap! Kona Sunrise is one of the best. One of the local island companies always has coffee on sale at the supermarket. Fresh ground, first thing in the morning, and no day can go wrong!
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Yossarian
Citizen
Username: Yossarian
Post Number: 139
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2003 - 9:25 am: |
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Me again --
With 2 little ones, breakfast starts way too early!
bpaandco --
I'm very jealous, and not just because of the Kona (which sounds great!). Kauai is wonderful (although I can imagine some difficulties living there as a non-native). We've been to Princeville several times, and would go back every vacation if it was closer and less expensive. The remote beaches up there are amazing. We love to hike down to some of the wildnerness beaches where you see nobody for miles. And then there's queen's bath. How cool! Plus, Hanalei (sp?) is the perfect sleepy little beach town. That said, I think I miss the Poki (sp?) most of all. You just can't get anything like it here. |
bpaandco
Citizen
Username: Bpaandco
Post Number: 66
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2003 - 2:22 pm: |
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Yossarian - Living here is not as expensive as most people think. About the same or even less than SO/M. We've had no difficulties being accepted by the locals, as the community is very diverse. Next time you're here, look me up and we can have a cup of coffee! |
imacgrandma
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Username: Imacgrandma
Post Number: 192
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2003 - 4:47 pm: |
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http://www.thanksgivingcoffee.com/, also
http://www.peacecoffee.com.
Both shade-grown, organic, fair trade.
Absolute heavenly whiff when you open the box, and the oils on the beans, stupendous.
Sites are attractive, also. |
ML1
Citizen
Username: Ml1
Post Number: 1412
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2003 - 11:22 pm: |
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folks,
you can argue your $10/lb high-end arabicas all day and night, but as far as I'm concerned, the preparation is key. If you're spending for good coffee, you need to make it with boiling water. Most drip coffee makers made for household use just don't get the water hot enough. I use a coffee press, and even inexpensive grocery store coffee like Chock Full O' Nuts tastes good. |
patty
Citizen
Username: Patty
Post Number: 395
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 12:06 am: |
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Ml1, thanks for the tip.
I myself have my coffee driven in biweekly from Pathmark of South Orange. Half any expresso on sale and half any grocery coffee on sale goes in the mix. Rich enough.
(For those of us who enjoyed the recent Onion Press headline about Boston's newest Starbucks opening in the restroom of the existing Starbucks. )  |
metaphor
Citizen
Username: Metaphor
Post Number: 24
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 2:49 pm: |
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Forgive me for being ignorant, but where is Trader Joe's? I'm forever in search of the best cup of coffee. |
chocoholic
Citizen
Username: Shrink
Post Number: 60
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 4:35 pm: |
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Tom, I'm with you. I used to go to Fairway and buy the French roast. Great coffee...I was aghast whn I moved to SO and discovered that the coffee cost twice as much, but was not twice as good. After being severely disappointed with Trader Joes and Starbucks, I bought some French Roast from Whole foods which isn't bad.
I find that people who have spent most of their lives in a certain place have a very difficult time understanding that things can be much different in other places. |
sac
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Username: Sac
Post Number: 837
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 5:13 pm: |
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There are Trader Joe's stores in Westfield and Florham Park. I haven't been to the one in Westfield, but to get to the Florham Park store, just take South Orange Avenue past Livingston Mall and a couple miles farther up you will be in Florham Park. (The road will have changed names to Columbia Turnpike by then.) Trader Joe's is in a shopping center on your right more or less across from Treasure Island. |
metaphor
Citizen
Username: Metaphor
Post Number: 25
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 10:01 am: |
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Thank you, Sac - I'll check it out. |
scribbler
Citizen
Username: Scribbler
Post Number: 25
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 12:19 pm: |
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Peet's Coffee (Sumatran is my favorite) from San Francisco. Way too expensive and hard to find, but Whole Foods offers it. I think I've tried them all at one time or another. Peet's rocks! |
luanda
Citizen
Username: Luanda
Post Number: 132
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 10:31 pm: |
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One advantage of the Trader Joe's in Westfield - unlike Florham Park, they sell wine there. Not fabulous, but for the price, miraculous. Very nice wines for everyday consumption - $3-$6/bottle |
alexmart
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Username: Alexmart
Post Number: 2
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, December 27, 2003 - 11:09 pm: |
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I agree 100% with scribbler. Peets it definietly the best around. The coffee beans are high quality, and if you buy them from the Peets website, www.peets.com, the beans are shipped a day or two after roasting. The beans at Whole Foods are usually on the shelf a few weeks after roasting. The difference is really noticeable. I appreciate the convenience of Whole Foods, when I've run out before my next shipment arrives.
Peets quickly processes orders. They usually ship within 1 business day of placing your order. Guatemala and Kenya are my favorites. Check out the website, they have a great tool to choose among the several types of beans they offer.
The coffee at Trader Joes, while inexpensive does not taste as fresh as Peets. Starbucks is always so acidic.
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